Boy Scout denied Eagle Scout award because he is gay.

Yes, and Scouts are 14-18. Educate yourself. You don'r suppose a 17 or 18 year old male might be an attractive target to an otherwise normal homosexual, do you?
That's still pedophilia. You have no clue about what your talking about. It isn't about being gay, get over yourself.
 
That's still pedophilia. You have no clue about what your talking about. It isn't about being gay, get over yourself.

Is it now? In this state the age of consent is 17. You are entirely a victim of the label mentality. Hetero men rape, and Homosexual men rape as well. Come down off your cloud.
 
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Members of disliked minority groups are often stereotyped as representing a danger to the majority's most vulnerable members. For example, Jews in the Middle Ages were accused of murdering Christian babies in ritual sacrifices. Black men in the United States were often lynched after being falsely accused of raping White women.

In a similar fashion, gay people have often been portrayed as a threat to children. Back in 1977, when Anita Bryant campaigned successfully to repeal a Dade County (FL) ordinance prohibiting anti-gay discrimination, she named her organization "Save Our Children," and warned that "a particularly deviant-minded [gay] teacher could sexually molest children" (Bryant, 1977, p. 114). [Bibliographic references are on a different web page]

In recent years, antigay activists have routinely asserted that gay people are child molesters. This argument was often made in debates about the Boy Scouts of America's policy to exclude gay scouts and scoutmasters. More recently, in the wake of Rep. Mark Foley's resignation from the US House of Representatives in 2006, antigay activists and their supporters seized on the scandal to revive this canard.

It has also been raised in connection with scandals about the Catholic church's attempts to cover up the abuse of young males by priests. Indeed, the Vatican's early response to the 2002 revelations of widespread Church cover-ups of sexual abuse by priests was to declare that gay men should not be ordained.

Public belief in the stereotype The number of Americans who believe the myth that gay people are child molesters has declined substantially. In a 1970 national survey, more than 70% of respondents agreed with the assertions that "Homosexuals are dangerous as teachers or youth leaders because they try to get sexually involved with children" or that "Homosexuals try to play sexually with children if they cannot get an adult partner."1
By contrast, in a 1999 national poll, the belief that most gay men are likely to molest or abuse children was endorsed by only 19% of heterosexual men and 10% of heterosexual women. Even fewer – 9% of men and 6% of women – regarded most lesbians as child molesters.

Consistent with these findings, Gallup polls have found that an increasing number of Americans would allow gay people to be elementary school teachers. For example, the proportion was 54% in 2005, compared to 27% in 1977.


Examining the Research Even though most Americans don't regard gay people as child molesters, confusion remains widespread in this area. To understand the facts, it is important to examine the results of scientific research. However, when we evaluate research on child molestation, our task is complicated by several problems.
One problem is that none of the studies in this area have obtained data from a probability sample, that is, a sample that can be assumed to be representative of the population of all child molesters. Rather, most research has been conducted only with convicted perpetrators or with pedophiles who sought professional help. Consequently, they may not accurately describe child molesters who have never been caught or have not sought treatment.


Terminology A second problem is that the terminology used in this area is often confusing and can even be misleading. We can begin to address that problem by defining some basic terms.

Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.

Whereas pedophilia and hebephilia refer to psychological propensities, child molestation and child sexual abuse are used to describe actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent. In this context, the latter individual is referred to as a child, even though he or she may be a teenager.

Although the terms are not always applied consistently, it is useful to distinguish between pedophiles/hebephiles and child molesters/abusers. Pedophilia and hebephilia are diagnostic labels that refer to psychological attractions. Not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually molest children; an adult can be attracted to children or adolescents without ever actually engaging in sexual contact with them.

Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.

Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.


Typologies of Offenders The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

Over the years, this fact has been incorporated into various systems for categorizing child molesters. For example, Finkelhor and Araji (1986) proposed that perpetrators' sexual attractions should be conceptualized as ranging along a continuum – from exclusive interest in children at one extreme, to exclusive interest in adult partners at the other end.

More here
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
 
What don't you understand about pedophilia...you're confused. If we were to talk about pedophiles realistically then I'd have to say MOST pedophiles are married, white men.


And that was my point.

pedophiles move themselves into positions that place them in close proxy to kids they can molest.


WHY would they out them selves as gay?


they hide in a closet if its male children they want to abuse.


That is why its NOT out gay men that molest boys.
 
I am surprised because I keep hoping people will grow up or wise up. I keep thinking that the baseless hatred will die off. Silly of me, I know.

As for the "so what" part, If we allow it the haters will ruin people lives forever. We stand up and change things and they become the point of ridicule.

Great post!!
 
OK, but hetro-pedophiles don't assault boys.

How horribly, horribly ignorant an uninformed you are. I can only pray you don't have children.

Pedophiles assault children both girls and boys...it isn't about their sexual orientation beyond their pedophilia. Damn. Educate yourself please.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile

There are many scientific studies that back this up. Pedophilia is a disease, homosexuality is not.
 
How horribly, horribly ignorant an uninformed you are. I can only pray you don't have children.



There are many scientific studies that back this up. Pedophilia is a disease, homosexuality is not.

Right, so if you are gay, you couldn't possibly be interested? There are no deviant homosexuals? Both of you are new here, so you are forgiven by me of your ignorance of me.
 
So, not letting this gay kid get his eagle scout award prevents gay kids from sleeping in a tent with gay leaders how?
 
BTW, I went to am unconventional school until the 8th grade, but we slept in tents with our teachers and mixed sex tents often... it did not cause there to be any more or less sex going on.
 
This isn't about hatred. This is about men and boys being alone together in tents for the weekend. The Scouts are right, gays don't belong in the Scouts. Save your indignation for an actual issue.

This is not about the scout leader but about the scout. He has been in scouting for years. He fulfilled the qualifications and did everything they asked, and now they deny him the Eagle because he is gay??

And they are not kicking him out, so they are not stopping him from being a scout, just stopping him from being an Eagle scout.

And just as an FYI, because a scout is gay does not mean he will be molesting other scouts on camping trips. My indignation is properly placed, perhaps you should reexamine your own fears.
 
Right, so if you are gay, you couldn't possibly be interested? There are no deviant homosexuals? Both of you are new here, so you are forgiven by me of your ignorance of me.

Oh. So now you're ignorant and condescending!

Honey, I don't need much time to figure ignorant people out. The person who rapes is a totally different person than a pedophile. You can't compare the two.

Tell me...what is your experience with studying pedophilia?

Or are you just having issues with Father O'Diddle?
 
And that was my point.

pedophiles move themselves into positions that place them in close proxy to kids they can molest.


WHY would they out them selves as gay?


they hide in a closet if its male children they want to abuse.


That is why its NOT out gay men that molest boys.
I'm sorry to say you don't get it either. Pedophiles hide where they can get at children. It's not commonly called 'in the closet'. In the closet is in reference to gays. Pedophiles and gays are not the same thing. Damn. Where is all this Gay's are pedophiles crap coming from?
 
How horribly, horribly ignorant an uninformed you are. I can only pray you don't have children.



There are many scientific studies that back this up. Pedophilia is a disease, homosexuality is not.
It's unbelievable. Damn!!
 
Right, so if you are gay, you couldn't possibly be interested? There are no deviant homosexuals? Both of you are new here, so you are forgiven by me of your ignorance of me.
I think someone is posting under your name...I can't believe this is you posting this kind of drivel.
 
I am surprised because I keep hoping people will grow up or wise up. I keep thinking that the baseless hatred will die off. Silly of me, I know.

As for the "so what" part, If we allow it the haters will ruin people lives forever. We stand up and change things and they become the point of ridicule.

it is a private organization. they don't have to accept homosexuals. what proof do you have they "hate" homosexuals?
 
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