BREAKING: Trump says he’s going to overturn the 14th Amendment with an executive order.

Here's the decision. Show us.
I have provided the quotes more than once already. But here they are again.

Page 6
We conclude
that States may disqualify persons holding or attempting
to hold state office.
But States have no power under the
Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal of-
fices, especially the Presidency.
...
Although the
Fourteenth Amendment restricts state power, nothing in it
plainly withdraws from the States this traditional author-
ity. And
after ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment,
States used this authority to disqualify state officers
in ac-
cordance with state statutes. See, e.g., Worthy v. Barrett,
63 N. C. 199, 200, 204 (1869) (elected county sheriff ); State
ex rel. Sandlin v. Watkins, 21 La. Ann. 631, 631–633 (1869)
(state judge).
Such power over

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as noted,
States did disqualify persons from holding
state offices following ratification of the Fourteenth Amend-
ment.
That pattern of disqualification with respect to state,
but not federal offices provides “persuasive evidence of a
general understanding” that the States lacked enforcement
power with respect to the latter.


Would you care to quote where the ruling says that only the Congress can enforce the 14th amendment for federal offices but enforcing the amendment is not allowing the person to hold office. There is no enforcement by simply determining if the person committed insurrection.
But the ruling then disproves your claim that only Congress can decide who is an insurrectionist when it says the following on page 10.

Shortly after ratification of the Amendment, Con-
gress enacted the Enforcement Act of 1870.
That Act
authorized federal district attorneys to bring civil actions in
federal court to remove anyone holding nonlegislative of-
fice—federal or state—in violation of Section 3,
and made
holding or attempting to hold office in violation of Section 3
a federal crime. §§14, 15, 16 Stat. 143–144 (repealed, 35
Stat. 1153–1154, 62 Stat. 992–993).


Clearly the ruling at no time says that only Congress can decide who is an insurrectionist. The ruling says only Congress can lay out the procedure of how Section 3 is enforced.
 
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I posted the decision in #806. Read the decision for yourself. You're simply playing word games.
Quote the part of the ruling that says only Congress can determine who is an insurrectionist.

You clearly have not read the decision since you keep making false claims about what is in it.

Provide the quote to support your claim or admit you can't find any such quote. Enforcement of the 14th involves removing someone from office or preventing them from holding office. Determining if someone has committed insurrection is NOT enforcement.

Here is a link to the USSC ruling. Feel free to copy and paste the relevant part that supports your claim.
 
I have provided the quotes more than once already. But here they are again.

Page 6
We conclude
that States may disqualify persons holding or attempting
to hold state office.
But States have no power under the
Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal of-
fices, especially the Presidency.
...
Although the
Fourteenth Amendment restricts state power, nothing in it
plainly withdraws from the States this traditional author-
ity. And
after ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment,
States used this authority to disqualify state officers
in ac-
cordance with state statutes. See, e.g., Worthy v. Barrett,
63 N. C. 199, 200, 204 (1869) (elected county sheriff ); State
ex rel. Sandlin v. Watkins, 21 La. Ann. 631, 631–633 (1869)
(state judge).
Such power over

Page 9
as noted, States
did disqualify persons from holding
state offices following ratification of the Fourteenth Amend-
ment.
That pattern of disqualification with respect to state,
but not federal offices provides “persuasive evidence of a
general understanding” that the States lacked enforcement
power with respect to the latter.


Would you care to quote where the ruling says that only the Congress can enforce the 14th amendment for federal offices but enforcing the amendment is not allowing the person to hold office. There is no enforcement by simply determining if the person committed insurrection.
But the ruling then disproves your claim that only Congress can decide who is an insurrectionist when it says the following on page 10.

Shortly after ratification of the Amendment, Con-
gress enacted the Enforcement Act of 1870.
That Act
authorized federal district attorneys to bring civil actions in
federal court to remove anyone holding nonlegislative of-
fice—federal or state—in violation of Section 3,
and made
holding or attempting to hold office in violation of Section 3
a federal crime. §§14, 15, 16 Stat. 143–144 (repealed, 35
Stat. 1153–1154, 62 Stat. 992–993).


Clearly the ruling at no time says that only Congress can decide who is an insurrectionist. The ruling says only Congress can lay out the procedure of how Section 3 is enforced.
Trump wasn't running for state office. No states can keep a Presidential candidate off their ballot because they claim the candidate is an insurrectionist. You're jiving.
 
Quote the part of the ruling that says only Congress can determine who is an insurrectionist.

You clearly have not read the decision since you keep making false claims about what is in it.

Provide the quote to support your claim or admit you can't find any such quote. Enforcement of the 14th involves removing someone from office or preventing them from holding office. Determining if someone has committed insurrection is NOT enforcement.
Read it yourself. Read the Amendment. The Amendment says everything in the Amendment is determined by Congress.
 
Quote the part of the ruling that says only Congress can determine who is an insurrectionist.

You clearly have not read the decision since you keep making false claims about what is in it.

Provide the quote to support your claim or admit you can't find any such quote. Enforcement of the 14th involves removing someone from office or preventing them from holding office. Determining if someone has committed insurrection is NOT enforcement.

Here is a link to the USSC ruling. Feel free to copy and paste the relevant part that supports your claim.
Read it yourself. Why don't YOU provide the quote to show where I'm wrong.
 
Read it yourself. Why don't YOU provide the quote to show where I'm wrong.
That's not how proof works. You made the claim that something was in the ruling. It is incumbent upon you to provide where it is in the ruling.
Failure to provide the quote only serves as evidence that no such thing exists in the ruling.
 
That's not how proof works. You made the claim that something was in the ruling. It is incumbent upon you to provide where it is in the ruling.
Failure to provide the quote only serves as evidence that no such thing exists in the ruling.
Well, I tell you what. You can run along now and play somewhere else. You've had your fun. The fact is the Supreme Court put Trump on the ballot in every state and he isn't an insurrectionist. You lost.
 
Read it yourself. Read the Amendment. The Amendment says everything in the Amendment is determined by Congress.
Wow. You are completely off the rails at this point.

Here is the relevant part of the amendment.
Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


Would you care to point out where it says Congress determines everything in the amendment? It says Congress can by a vote remove the disability. But that is not the same thing as saying everything in the amendment is determined by Congress. For Congress to determine everything in the amendment Congress must have determined the oaths for the state legislatures. Your argument is nonsense when we read the amendment and apply your claim.
 
Well, I tell you what. You can run along now and play somewhere else. You've had your fun. The fact is the Supreme Court put Trump on the ballot in every state and he isn't an insurrectionist. You lost.
I see you can't provide the quote. Not surprising since I have known from your very first post that you were incapable of understanding a Supreme Court ruling and were only talking out of your ass.
 
Well, I tell you what. You can run along now and play somewhere else. You've had your fun. The fact is the Supreme Court put Trump on the ballot in every state and he isn't an insurrectionist. You lost.
Trump is an insurrectionist as determined by a Colorado court. That ruling has not been overturned. The only thing the USSC did is say that Colorado has no power to remove an insurrectionist from the federal ballot.
 
I see you can't provide the quote. Not surprising since I have known from your very first post that you were incapable of understanding a Supreme Court ruling and were only talking out of your ass.
I understand it very well. You slimy democrats tried to pull a fast one and the US Supreme Court slapped your lying asses red like a baboon's ass. Run along now.
 
this shit again?

Look, everyone knows that politicians and voters from both parties don't give a flying fuck about parts of the Constitution that they don't like, so stop with the faux outrage.

Until the citizens can come to an agreement that ALL parts of the Constitution matter, you're just bitching to bitch.
 
You're wrong. Run along now.
No. I am right. Until you can provide an appeals court ruling overturning the lower court ruling the lower court ruling stands. The Colorado Supreme Court upheld the lower court ruling of Trump being an insurrectionists and the USSC never ruled on Trump being an insurrectionist so the court ruling stands.
Trump is an insurrectionist as determined by a court of law in Colorado.
 
You're wrong. Run along now.
You the one that is wrong. You lied when you said you had read the USSC decision. You have continually lied about what is in it. You have lied when you said I was twisting words when all I did was quote directly from the ruling. We can all see you for what you are. Nothing but a liar who has no critical thinking skills.
 
No. I am right. Until you can provide an appeals court ruling overturning the lower court ruling the lower court ruling stands. The Colorado Supreme Court upheld the lower court ruling of Trump being an insurrectionists and the USSC never ruled on Trump being an insurrectionist so the court ruling stands.
Trump is an insurrectionist as determined by a court of law in Colorado.
I have your insurrectionist hanging

Fuck Colorado Trump is their daddy too

And fuck all you brain dead cretins holding on to your fantasies. Right in your ass'

You people are a sick cult of misfits
 
I have your insurrectionist hanging

Fuck Colorado Trump is their daddy too

And fuck all you brain dead cretins holding on to your fantasies. Right in your ass'

You people are a sick cult of misfits
Drinking already this morning? Or is it the middle of the night in Moscow?
 
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