Brits resort to pulling own teeth
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You lookin' at my pint?
Exactly. If we were going to set up the NHS from scratch we'd probably do it differently, it would be more efficient, there would be no waiting for anything and they'd even give you a lift back to your house in an ambulance and let you work the siren.
Could it work better, yes. Should it work better, yes. Will it work better in future, yes.
I wouldn't dream of telling Americans which system to adopt, that's a matter for you. I would rather live in a country with universal healthcare (well, excluding dentists...*shudder*) than without and i reckon quite a lot of you would as well.
It is not a "complete myth" unless you ignore that it happened.
Very much so, yes.
What exists can always be improved on, and at least you have the basic system in place.
BTW, we do have waiting lists here. Right wing myth swallowed by nearly everybody, that we don't.
Exactly. Hence my reasoning that we look at what is good, and what we can consider as problems elsewhere, then adopt an entirely different system that hopefully with address the problems and keep the good.
Of course, it won't be perfect and changes will likely need to be made, but why reproduce problems that can easily be foreseen by simply learning from others?
The idea that we must believe that everybody else is perfect and ignore any issues whatsoever and then say "myth" about them is preposterous.
Earlier in the thread I said that was one of the systems we should take a serious gander at.I haven't heard anyone complain about the French system.
Here's the problem. No one has ever had that "idea", other than you and others like you, setting up this non-existent "Idea" in order to knock it down.
The "idea" is that the right wing and powerful lobbyists, have done absolutely nothing but exaggerate and outright lie about problems with universal systems in other countries, to foster fear here, so that we are stuck with a broken system, which is, not to put too fine a point on it, killing people every day.
What is "preposterous' is that you pretend that hasn't happened, and isn't happening right now. that's what is preposterous.
What is preposterous is you are assuming my opinion, as you had objection to the same earlier in another thread you may recognize the sentiment.
I propose researching and adopting the best, you prefer adopting anything at all and pretending that there are no problems, at least that is what it appears you prefer by your objection to my assertions that we should learn from other programs elsewhere.
Likely it is to leave the states to adopt the programs they think are best for their state. Which is close to my opinion. I'd prefer to allow states to create programs that they think are good, then later evaluating and taking the best of the best and copying it elsewhere.
No, I prefer not setting up perfect strawman so we can throw up our hands in defeat.
There is no perfect. But there is good, and there certainly is much better than the shit system we have now.
Which doesn't mean that he has no real objective in fixing the problem. Creating coverage doesn't necessarily mean it must be handled only at the Federal level.
Nice strawman.
Ha! Exactly!
You know exactly what the Libertarian postion is on healthcare: reduce taxes, regulations, and let the free market decide.
*sigh*
Which means nothing. The guy isn't going to win. Other than by Thread Count indicators.
