Bush Admin. Cleared-Again

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Still waiting sissie, you coward. :cof1:
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No wait necessary....as the thread shows. You're just the same deluded, bitter fool you always were...so much more to pity you.

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I'm done kicking your ass here, so do your painfully predictable last insult/lie....see you next time.
 
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christiefan915 said:
More than once, actually. How many times have you started with the last page and worked forward?
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let's cut to the chase, chrissie....your claim that the US killed a hundred thousand Iraqis is a bold faced, unashamed lie.....the facts prove you are a liar, your posts prove you don't care that you are lying....in short, you are the quintessential American liberal.....your dancing doesn't fool anyone so why keep up the pretense?......how exactly does a liberal's mind work....do you somehow think that if you lie often enough people actually start thinking you are telling the truth?.......because the opposite is true.....after listening to you lie over and over the rest of us just stop listening to anything you say......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
let's cut to the chase, chrissie....your claim that the US killed a hundred thousand Iraqis is a bold faced, unashamed lie.....the facts prove you are a liar, your posts prove you don't care that you are lying....in short, you are the quintessential American liberal.....your dancing doesn't fool anyone so why keep up the pretense?......how exactly does a liberal's mind work....do you somehow think that if you lie often enough people actually start thinking you are telling the truth?.......because the opposite is true.....after listening to you lie over and over the rest of us just stop listening to anything you say......
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Yes, let's cut to the chase. If I'm a bold-faced liar, so is Iraqbodycount, the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI), Iraq Coalition Casualty Count, Brookings Iraq Index. the Iraq Family Health Study, and The Lancet.

Iraq Body Count
March 19, 2003 - August 22, 2008
86,661 - 94,558
Iraq Coalition Casualty Count
April 28, 2005 - August 22, 2008 43,099
Brookings Iraq Index
May 2003 - August 14, 2008
113,616
The Associated Press
April 2005 - February 13, 2008
34,832 dead
40,174 wounded
The Iraq Family Health Study (the “WHO study”)
March 2003 - June 2006
151,000
The Lancet, “Mortality after the 2003 Invasion of Iraq”
March 19, 2003 - July 31, 2006 426,369 - 793,663[


It's frighteningly easy for you to completely ignore data that's incompatible with your worldview. That's the difference between us. I and others would rather study the unsavoury episodes in our country's history with the idea that full disclosure and knowledge will go a long way toward preventing them from happening again. You, on the other hand, would prefer to avoid and overlook these issues and fall back on your simplistic sound bites: "All liberals bad. All conservatives good."

Frankly, I'm really surprised that somebody who had the brains to earn an LL.D is not savvy enough to separate fact from fiction, but I guess it goes to show that even higher education wasn't enough for you to overcome your ultra-partisan, deluded judgments of those with opinions different from yours.
 
christiefan915 said:
Yes, let's cut to the chase. If I'm a bold-faced liar, so is Iraqbodycount, the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI), Iraq Coalition Casualty Count, Brookings Iraq Index. the Iraq Family Health Study, and The Lancet.

Iraq Body Count
March 19, 2003 - August 22, 2008
86,661 - 94,558
Iraq Coalition Casualty Count
April 28, 2005 - August 22, 2008 43,099
Brookings Iraq Index
May 2003 - August 14, 2008
113,616
The Associated Press
April 2005 - February 13, 2008
34,832 dead
40,174 wounded
The Iraq Family Health Study (the “WHO study”)
March 2003 - June 2006
151,000
The Lancet, “Mortality after the 2003 Invasion of Iraq”
March 19, 2003 - July 31, 2006 426,369 - 793,663[


It's frighteningly easy for you to completely ignore data that's incompatible with your worldview. That's the difference between us. I and others would rather study the unsavoury episodes in our country's history with the idea that full disclosure and knowledge will go a long way toward preventing them from happening again. You, on the other hand, would prefer to avoid and overlook these issues and fall back on your simplistic sound bites: "All liberals bad. All conservatives good."

Frankly, I'm really surprised that somebody who had the brains to earn an LL.D is not savvy enough to separate fact from fiction, but I guess it goes to show that even higher education wasn't enough for you to overcome your ultra-partisan, deluded judgments of those with opinions different from yours.
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this does nothing more than underscore your dishonesty......tell me how the numbers you quote above support your claim that the Allied coalition killed a hundred thousand Iraqis......the vast majority of those who died were killed by Iraqi terrorists yet you still pretend they were killed by US soldiers....

you know it isn't true, you don't care that it isn't true......you don't even care that we all know it isn't true.....you just keep saying it over and over anyway.....

you, Christie, are a liar......you do it knowingly, you do it openly, you do it intentionally.....

so don't give me any more crap about my education and my beliefs.....I am educated enough to recognize your bullshit and to point it out to anyone that cares to listen.....

you have no intention of admitting the truth, because you are a liberal.....and liberals do not tell the truth.....
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
this does nothing more than underscore your dishonesty......tell me how the numbers you quote above support your claim that the Allied coalition killed a hundred thousand Iraqis......the vast majority of those who died were killed by Iraqi terrorists yet you still pretend they were killed by US soldiers....

you know it isn't true, you don't care that it isn't true......you don't even care that we all know it isn't true.....you just keep saying it over and over anyway.....

you, Christie, are a liar......you do it knowingly, you do it openly, you do it intentionally.....

so don't give me any more crap about my education and my beliefs.....I am educated enough to recognize your bullshit and to point it out to anyone that cares to listen.....

you have no intention of admitting the truth, because you are a liberal.....and liberals do not tell the truth.....
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And you, pmp, are a pretentious bore who can't comprehend the written word to save your life. I never said these words: "...the Allied coalition killed a hundred thousand Iraqis

I said the Allied coalition was responsible for those deaths. Do you even understand the meaning of the phrase "unintended consequences"?

Post 133: "Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, and that's a conservative estimate."

Post 149: "Only a total bonehead could think that the US-initiated invasion followed by years of bombing and destruction weren't the main cause of citizen deaths since 2003."

Post 165: "My initial claim is that none of the casualties dating from the U.S. invasion of 2003 could have happened if there hadn't been an invasion to start with. Directly and indirectly the casualties of the Iraq war were caused by U.S. action. No war launched by the U.S., no casualties caused by the U.S. How hard is that to understand?

Post 191: "You can spout the party line until doomsday, but after March 20, 2003, the U.S. owns responsibility for what happened in Iraq, and that includes deaths tied to the invasion both directly and indirectly."

You don't like our numbers? Fine. Why don't you go back to March 19, 2003 and before, and post how many citizens were killed via civil war or car bombings, just so we have a basis for comparison. We have to go by the numbers quoted by the groups I mentioned because both the generals and the administration you supported cavalierly announced that "we don't do body counts".

You can say the word "liar" as often as you want, in as big a type as you desire, and in as many languages you know, but that doesn't make it true. It simply shows you to be a sarcastic hothead with limited discernment who's reduced to name-calling when you can't browbeat somebody to accept your claims. It may work for you on "nukemuslims.com" or "hateliberals.net" but you picked the wrong person to tangle with here.
 
christiefan915 said:
And you, pmp, are a pretentious bore who can't comprehend the written word to save your life. I never said these words: "...the Allied coalition killed a hundred thousand Iraqis

I said the Allied coalition was responsible for those deaths. Do you even understand the meaning of the phrase "unintended consequences"?

Post 133: "Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, and that's a conservative estimate."

Post 149: "Only a total bonehead could think that the US-initiated invasion followed by years of bombing and destruction weren't the main cause of citizen deaths since 2003."

Post 165: "My initial claim is that none of the casualties dating from the U.S. invasion of 2003 could have happened if there hadn't been an invasion to start with. Directly and indirectly the casualties of the Iraq war were caused by U.S. action. No war launched by the U.S., no casualties caused by the U.S. How hard is that to understand?

Post 191: "You can spout the party line until doomsday, but after March 20, 2003, the U.S. owns responsibility for what happened in Iraq, and that includes deaths tied to the invasion both directly and indirectly."

You don't like our numbers? Fine. Why don't you go back to March 19, 2003 and before, and post how many citizens were killed via civil war or car bombings, just so we have a basis for comparison. We have to go by the numbers quoted by the groups I mentioned because both the generals and the administration you supported cavalierly announced that "we don't do body counts".

You can say the word "liar" as often as you want, in as big a type as you desire, and in as many languages you know, but that doesn't make it true. It simply shows you to be a sarcastic hothead with limited discernment who's reduced to name-calling when you can't browbeat somebody to accept your claims. It may work for you on "nukemuslims.com" or "hateliberals.net" but you picked the wrong person to tangle with here.
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By your convuluted thinking, Governor Schwarzenegger is responsible for all the deaths in California; because he's the Governor.
 
Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet
let's cut to the chase, chrissie....your claim that the US killed a hundred thousand Iraqis is a bold faced, unashamed lie.....the facts prove you are a liar, your posts prove you don't care that you are lying....in short, you are the quintessential American liberal.....your dancing doesn't fool anyone so why keep up the pretense?......how exactly does a liberal's mind work....do you somehow think that if you lie often enough people actually start thinking you are telling the truth?.......because the opposite is true.....after listening to you lie over and over the rest of us just stop listening to anything you say......
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christiefan915 said:
Yes, let's cut to the chase. If I'm a bold-faced liar, so is Iraqbodycount, the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI), Iraq Coalition Casualty Count, Brookings Iraq Index. the Iraq Family Health Study, and The Lancet.

Iraq Body Count
March 19, 2003 - August 22, 2008
86,661 - 94,558
Iraq Coalition Casualty Count
April 28, 2005 - August 22, 2008 43,099
Brookings Iraq Index
May 2003 - August 14, 2008
113,616
The Associated Press
April 2005 - February 13, 2008
34,832 dead
40,174 wounded
The Iraq Family Health Study (the “WHO study”)
March 2003 - June 2006
151,000
The Lancet, “Mortality after the 2003 Invasion of Iraq”
March 19, 2003 - July 31, 2006 426,369 - 793,663[


It's frighteningly easy for you to completely ignore data that's incompatible with your worldview. That's the difference between us. I and others would rather study the unsavoury episodes in our country's history with the idea that full disclosure and knowledge will go a long way toward preventing them from happening again. You, on the other hand, would prefer to avoid and overlook these issues and fall back on your simplistic sound bites: "All liberals bad. All conservatives good."

Frankly, I'm really surprised that somebody who had the brains to earn an LL.D is not savvy enough to separate fact from fiction, but I guess it goes to show that even higher education wasn't enough for you to overcome your ultra-partisan, deluded judgments of those with opinions different from yours.
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:clink::lock:
 
christiefan915 said:
And you, pmp, are a pretentious bore who can't comprehend the written word to save your life. I never said these words: "...the Allied coalition killed a hundred thousand Iraqis

I said the Allied coalition was responsible for those deaths. Do you even understand the meaning of the phrase "unintended consequences"?

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You can say the word "liar" as often as you want, in as big a type as you desire, and in as many languages you know, but that doesn't make it true.
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christiefan915 said:
Good Lord. Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, and that's a conservative estimate. But no, bush never targeted civilians. They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time when we were bombing the shit out of the country.
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ah so you never said that 100,000 Iraqi civilians died as a result of the US bombing Iraq?....my calling you a liar does not make it true......my catching you lying and showing it to the world makes it true......
 
christiefan915 said:
And you, pmp, are a pretentious bore who can't comprehend the written word to save your life. I never said these words: "...the Allied coalition killed a hundred thousand Iraqis

I said the Allied coalition was responsible for those deaths. Do you even understand the meaning of the phrase "unintended consequences"?

Post 133: "Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, and that's a conservative estimate."

Post 149: "Only a total bonehead could think that the US-initiated invasion followed by years of bombing and destruction weren't the main cause of citizen deaths since 2003."

Post 165: "My initial claim is that none of the casualties dating from the U.S. invasion of 2003 could have happened if there hadn't been an invasion to start with. Directly and indirectly the casualties of the Iraq war were caused by U.S. action. No war launched by the U.S., no casualties caused by the U.S. How hard is that to understand?

Post 191: "You can spout the party line until doomsday, but after March 20, 2003, the U.S. owns responsibility for what happened in Iraq, and that includes deaths tied to the invasion both directly and indirectly."

You don't like our numbers? Fine. Why don't you go back to March 19, 2003 and before, and post how many citizens were killed via civil war or car bombings, just so we have a basis for comparison. We have to go by the numbers quoted by the groups I mentioned because both the generals and the administration you supported cavalierly announced that "we don't do body counts".

You can say the word "liar" as often as you want, in as big a type as you desire, and in as many languages you know, but that doesn't make it true. It simply shows you to be a sarcastic hothead with limited discernment who's reduced to name-calling when you can't browbeat somebody to accept your claims. It may work for you on "nukemuslims.com" or "hateliberals.net" but you picked the wrong person to tangle with here.
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:good4u: Now watch him just repeat his BS as if all you just posted didn't exist.
 
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Now watch him just repeat his BS as if all you just posted didn't exist.
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PostmodernProphet said:
lol, apparently my response to her doesn't exist, as you simply ignored it......just as you liberals ignore the truth in favor of your opinions.....
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As the chronological order of the post shows, I provided information that disproves the assertion in your response to Christie...and all you did with Christie's answer was excerpt a small section to which you attached a repeat of your previous contention...but as one reads ALL of Christie's response, she DISPROVES your assertions, contentions, insinuations, etc. In short, you did EXACTLY as I said you would.

All you've got is insipidly stubborn denial that borderlines on the irrattional...a sure sign that you're intellectually spent and can no longer logically defend your position. That seems to be your forte....a pity. Carry on.
 
and yet when all is said and done, the facts speak for themselves while your condemnations remain nothing but unsupported opinion.....you didn't prove information, you provided assumptions.....and not very coherent assumptions at that.....you both need to give it up.....your refusal to look at what really happened in Iraq ought to embarrass you........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and yet when all is said and done, the facts speak for themselves while your condemnations remain nothing but unsupported opinion.....you didn't prove information, you provided assumptions.....and not very coherent assumptions at that.....you both need to give it up.....your refusal to look at what really happened in Iraq ought to embarrass you........
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I will never be embarrassed by the fact that we were responsible for those civilian deaths in Iraq, close to 100,000 by most counts. Nor will I be embarrassed that the blockhead you voted for is also responsible for the deaths of 4,700 U.S. and coalition troop deaths.

Ashamed, angry, sickened and disgusted, yes. But not embarrassed.
 
christiefan915 said:
I will never be embarrassed by the fact that we were responsible for those civilian deaths in Iraq, close to 100,000 by most counts. Nor will I be embarrassed that the blockhead you voted for is also responsible for the deaths of 4,700 U.S. and coalition troop deaths.

Ashamed, angry, sickened and disgusted, yes. But not embarrassed.
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He's just stamping his widdle feet and railing because he can't logically or factually disprove the information provided by the very source he himself referenced that you pointed out. Typical neocon BS artist.
 
Taichiliberal said:
He's just stamping his widdle feet and railing because he can't logically or factually disprove the information provided by the very source he himself referenced that you pointed out. Typical neocon BS artist.
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/shrugs....that source proves I am right and she is lying.......your false posturing won't change that no matter how hard you try.......coalition forces did NOT kill 100k Iraqis......end of story......as usual your threads have deteriorated to you pretending you won, despite the fact that every one here is laughing at you......
 
Its funny as hell watching Libby and Christie stamping their feet in unison declaring they are right in spite of the obvious...
 
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