C.S. Lewis vs. Friedrich Nietzsche

You are obsessed with marriage customs and property transactions, and cling to them in an attempt to score tepid points But those are institutions and practices are an insignificant part of a universal moral order

I am pretty sure Plato, Descartes, Hobbes, Cicero, Boethius, Siddhartha Gautama, Zhuangzi, Zarathustra, Hegel, Kant wasted very little ink writing about marriage contacts and real estate transactions.

They had bigger fish to fry.

hahahahahaha ...
Yes, I'm sure they did. But, everybody is familiar with marriage and property. And you like to mix religion with everything, so I'm interested in how religion and Queer marriage are co-joined?
Isn't this what you posted?

--->' "Many contemporary secular practices, categories, and judgments are in fact Christian. The Christian language is removed, but the deep Christian structure remains in the universalism of our moral ideals.". "

You talk about everything springing from religion, but when asked about specific things, ramble off a dozen names as a diversion to answering ANY question.
 
"Queers"? WTF:awkward:

Jack is going through one of him manic phases where he deliberately acts naughty to see if he will be punished.

If he gets shitfaced and is on the high end of his phase, he's more likely to catch himself a temp ban.
 
hahahahahaha ...
Yes, I'm sure they did. But, everybody is familiar with marriage and property. And you like to mix religion with everything, so I'm interested in how religion and Queer marriage are co-joined?
Isn't this what you posted?

--->' "Many contemporary secular practices, categories, and judgments are in fact Christian. The Christian language is removed, but the deep Christian structure remains in the universalism of our moral ideals.". "

You talk about everything springing from religion, but when asked about specific things, ramble off a dozen names as a diversion to answering ANY question.

It always took radicals (by the standards of their day) to bend the arc of history towards equality, respect for human dignity, spiritual and political freedom.

Socrates was a radical.
Jesus was a radical.
Martin Luther was a radical.
Thomas Jefferson was a radical.
William Loyd Garrison was a radical.
Frederick Douglass was a radical.
Susan B. Anthony was a radical.
Martin Luther King, Jr was a radical.

And they always had to do it in the face of stiff, and even violent opposition from conservative heirarchy and institutions.
 
It always took radicals (by the standards of their day) to bend the arc of history towards equality, respect for human dignity, spiritual and political freedom.

Socrates was a radical.
Jesus was a radical.
Martin Luther was a radical.
Thomas Jefferson was a radical.
William Loyd Garrison was a radical.
Frederick Douglass was a radical.
Susan B. Anthony was a radical.
Martin Luther King, Jr was a radical.

Translation: 'I can't explain how religion and Queers getting married now are co-joined, so I will fall back on my technique of blathering out a bunch of names ... that usually distracts everyone from the Question that I can't answer'.
 
It always took radicals (by the standards of their day) to bend the arc of history towards equality, respect for human dignity, spiritual and political freedom.

Socrates was a radical.
Jesus was a radical.
Martin Luther was a radical.
Thomas Jefferson was a radical.
William Loyd Garrison was a radical.
Frederick Douglass was a radical.
Susan B. Anthony was a radical.
Martin Luther King, Jr was a radical.

And they always had to do it in the face of stiff, and even violent opposition from conservative heirarchy and institutions.

Jesus is LORD!
"Before Abraham I AM"
 
Translation: 'I can't explain how religion and Queers getting married now are co-joined, so I will fall back on my technique of blathering out a bunch of names ... that usually distracts everyone from the Question that I can't answer'.

Baffle them with bullshit!
 
Jesus is LORD!
"Before Abraham I AM"

Why does*Cypress fight the Truth?
Why won't Cypress accept Jesus as his Personal Savior?
(sigh) I have a Bad Felling on this one, Mason.
Lake of Fire. One hot motherfucker.
Eternity. A real long time.

:(
 
Queers didn't fare well in the Christian world. I certainly would like Cypress to explain it to me, but alas, I know he never will. He can't. I know he wants to. :(
The term "Queer" is offensive!

Jack knows that; it's why he used the term. He wants to start a fight. That's how he gets when in one of his "moods". If I can catch him Top-Dead-Center of his "mood" and drunk, I think he will talk himself into a ban.
 
It always took radicals (by the standards of their day) to bend the arc of history towards equality, respect for human dignity, spiritual and political freedom.

Socrates was a radical.
Jesus was a radical.
Martin Luther was a radical.
Thomas Jefferson was a radical.
William Loyd Garrison was a radical.
Frederick Douglass was a radical.
Susan B. Anthony was a radical.
Martin Luther King, Jr was a radical.

And they always had to do it in the face of stiff, and even violent opposition from conservative heirarchy and institutions.

Jack wants to be a radical but he's screwing it up.

Radicals do inspire change, but they can end up like Jesus, Gandhi and MLK.

Who here thinks Jack needs to be nailed on his own Temp Ban cross? I have a kit:

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Queers didn't fare well in the Christian world. I certainly would like Cypress to explain it to me, but alas, I know he never will. He can't. I know he wants to. :(
You assume I am required to accept the premise of your question, which I don't.

I told you why. Marriage customs and property transactions are not part of humanity's arc towards a natural universal moral order, as far as I can tell. Outside of the fact that it indirectly impinges on the ethics of equality.

That's why the great moral philosophers of history barely ever wrote about marriage customs and real estate deals.
 
You assume I am required to accept the premise of your question, which I don't.

I told you why. Marriage customs and property transactions are not part of humanity's trajectory towards a natural universal moral order, as far as I can tell. Outside of the fact that it indirectly impinges on the ethics of equality.

That's why the great moral philosophers of history barely ever wrote about marriage customs and real estate deals.

Agreed, Cypress. Unfortunately, Jack only speaks Troll when he gets this way.
 
Agreed, Cypress. Unfortunately, Jack only speaks Troll when he gets this way.

Let's face facts, white Americans of European descent, as well as most blacks, practice New Testament ethics, to some extent. Regardless of whether we call ourselves agnostic or secular. You can strip away the Christian language, but the New Testament ethics lurks beneath

Just as someone born in East Asia, whether they realize or not, have their ethical and social perspective colored by Confucian and Buddhist wisdom.
 
Let's face facts, white Americans of European descent, as well as most blacks, practice New Testament ethics, to some extent. Regardless of whether we call ourselves agnostic or secular. You can strip away the Christian language, but the New Testament ethics lurks beneath

Just as someone born in East Asia, whether they realize or not, have their ethical and social perspective colored by Confucian and Buddhist wisdom.

Agreed; Christianity is as intertwined with Western Culture and Philosophy as Buddhism/Confucianism are with Eastern Culture and Philosophy.


In psychology, Twin studies are great for separating Nature vs. Nurture. Clearly one twin raised in Western Culture and another raised in Eastern Culture would have different views on life even though their genes are identical.
 
Why does*Cypress fight the Truth?
Why won't Cypress accept Jesus as his Personal Savior?
(sigh) I have a Bad Felling on this one, Mason.
Lake of Fire. One hot motherfucker.
Eternity. A real long time.

:(

He depends on to many so called experts and doesn't seem to have any personal beliefs!
 
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