California Governor Signs Order Banning Sales Of New Gasoline Cars By 2035

Legion said:
Will there be any factories or businesses in California by 2035?

California businesses are leaving the state in droves. In just 2018 and 2019—economic boom years—765 commercial facilities left California. This exodus doesn’t count Charles Schwab’s announcement to leave San Francisco next year. Nor does it include the 13,000 estimated businesses to have left between 2009 and 2016.

The reason? Economics, plain and simple. California is too expensive, and its taxes and regulations are too high. The Tax Foundation ranks California 48th in terms of business climate. California is also ranked 48th in terms of regulatory burdens. And California’s cost of living is 50 percent higher than the national average.


https://www.hoover.org/research/california-businesses-leave-state-thousands
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But the big techie "sweat shops" like Google are staying because the billionaires running them like the California lifestyle. They don't care if their rank and file workers have to live in a tent, or their car. Not their problem...
 
Into the Night said:
There will be a few. Those that don't require any significant power. It's effectively back to the horse and buggy days for the SOTC, since electric cars use oil products and coal to recharge. If everyone drove an electric car, there is insufficient energy produced by the Sun and the wind to power them all.
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It gets worse. A complete ban on gasoline and diesel engines means that only specialized (eg., much higher priced) trucking companies using electric vehicles will operate in California. Construction will come to a halt as there is little or no incentive to switch things like bulldozers to electric. Banning home back up generators (they run on gas or diesel) will only hasten the exodus from the state as people will get fed up with the black outs and brown outs that occur more and more frequently.
Wait until a hospital loses power and they have no back up because their diesel emergency generators were replaced by batteries and the power loss went more than a few hours which is longer than their batteries would last...

Yep, California... Right in the shitter...
 
Into the Night said:
This kind of thing would be a good start, but the problem in Sacramento is entrenched among many. You will have to remove them all, and re-establish a republic, and a State constitution.
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That would mean overcoming the ballot harvesting and other electoral tactics employed by the party in power, wouldn't it?

 
T. A. Gardner said:
Big techie "sweat shops" like Google are staying because the billionaires running them like the California lifestyle. They don't care if their rank and file workers have to live in a tent, or their car. Not their problem...
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Aren't many of them H1-Bs living ten to a house, anyway?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
But the big techie "sweat shops" like Google are staying because the billionaires running them like the California lifestyle. They don't care if their rank and file workers have to live in a tent, or their car. Not their problem...
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Actually, Google is already preparing to move out of the SOTC. They already have many of their server farms running elsewhere now, and have major development efforts going on elsewhere now.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It gets worse. A complete ban on gasoline and diesel engines means that only specialized (eg., much higher priced) trucking companies using electric vehicles will operate in California.
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There is no practical truck that runs solely on electric power. Even diesel-electric locomotives require oil based products for fuel.
T. A. Gardner said:
Construction will come to a halt as there is little or no incentive to switch things like bulldozers to electric.
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Can't get materials anyway unless they are brought in from local sources by horse and cart. You are correct. Things like bulldozers, backhoes, loaders, and have dump trucks all require oil based products for fuel. They won't develop the same power using electric motors. Further, the quarry where they get their materials can't function either.
T. A. Gardner said:
Banning home back up generators (they run on gas or diesel) will only hasten the exodus from the state as people will get fed up with the black outs and brown outs that occur more and more frequently.
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Bingo.
T. A. Gardner said:
Wait until a hospital loses power and they have no back up because their diesel emergency generators were replaced by batteries and the power loss went more than a few hours which is longer than their batteries would last...
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This has already happened. Yes...it will happen more often. People will die.
T. A. Gardner said:
Yep, California... Right in the shitter...
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Already there. Newsom now apparently wants to flush it. So soon it'll be in the septic tank.
 
Yeah, Californoa is thinking about and planning for the future. They will as usual spearhead all the changes the country and the world will be making. Rightys will be touting clean coal.
 
Nordberg said:
Yeah, Californoa is thinking about and planning for the future. They will as usual spearhead all the changes the country and the world will be making. Rightys will be touting clean coal.
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You mean like they are now without enough power for the state and rolling blackouts? All over the state? Yeah, that was real "planning" for the future. Fender head.
 
Sailor said:
California does not have enough power in the state right now. Rolling blackouts. They have no plans to build new power plants. Environmentalists will not let them. One just cannot make this shit up. California's Governor is a fucking idiot.




September 23, 20205:44 PM ET

California will phase out the sale of all gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035 in a bid to lead the U.S. in reducing greenhouse gas emissions by encouraging the state's drivers to switch to electric cars.

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed an executive order Wednesday that amounts to the most aggressive clean-car policy in the United States. Although it bans the sale of new gas cars and trucks after the 15-year deadline, it will still allow such vehicles to be owned and sold on the used-car market.

"This is the most impactful step our state can take to fight climate change," the governor said in a statement.

"Our cars shouldn't make wildfires worse — and create more days filled with smoky air. Cars shouldn't melt glaciers or raise sea levels threatening our cherished beaches and coastlines."

Newsom, a Democrat, also threw his support behind a ban on petroleum fracking but called on the California Legislature to make that change.

With extreme wildfires still burning in the state, Newsom says fighting climate change is an emergency. More here: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/916209659/california-governor-signs-order-banning-sales-of-new-gasoline-cars-by-2035
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Fuck em, let the bastards melt in the summer heat! They need to be made to realise that there are consequences to stupid actions!
 
Sailor said:
You mean like they are now without enough power for the state and rolling blackouts? All over the state? Yeah, that was real "planning" for the future. Fender head.
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Nordberg appears to be totally impervious to the truth. California already imports more electricity than any other state. The grid is old and needs massive upgrading especially with electric vehicle demands. They won't build new power stations thinking solar will save them, despite Ivanpah and Crescent Dunes going tits up.


California Now, America Next: Courtesy Of Unreliable And Toxic Renewables

https://clashdaily.com/2020/09/cali..._kDzaxCb3lP6jyGuH1wt3t-t34Bd0dxyZCO373WnSZPlF
 
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Grajonca said:
Nordberg appears to be totally impervious to the truth. California already imports more electricity than any other state. The grid is old and needs massive upgrading especially with electric vehicle demands. They won't build new power stations thinking solar will save them, despite Ivanpah and Crescent Dunes going tits up.


California Now, America Next: Courtesy Of Unreliable And Toxic Renewables

https://clashdaily.com/2020/09/cali..._kDzaxCb3lP6jyGuH1wt3t-t34Bd0dxyZCO373WnSZPlF
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And before they even start they have almost the most expensive electricity in the nation.

Also the most unstable grid I am pretty sure...other than Puerto Rico, which is of course a joke.
 
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