Can the country be unified?

[Diesel]

who said being mind-fucked was doing anyone any good......

I. Um. I don't know. You've lost me in your typical meandering through the woods of crazy.

 

[Diesel]

He won


Why you hating on him


Sanders couldn’t have done it

I didn't vote for Sanders nor Biden in the primary. I'm not hating on Biden. I just know he won't make a difference. He's an almost-dead, very old, white, straight, Catholic man. I wish him the very best in his presidency and I hope that he can put the US on its rightful path again, but I don't have any lofty expectations for him. I'm already looking forward to the person who replaces him.

 

[Diesel]

From the bottom: Each of us has the ability to talk to other people and engage them in discussions. I used to work for political campaigns but gave up when I realized the Democratic Party was not interested in much beyond big money donars.

At the top: President on down must be held to higher standards than...can't we all get along? For example, we need to criticize Speaker Pelosi for not protecting American democracy. Getting money is a very poor substitute for leadership.

I don't see that as a helpful answer, but thank you for your response.

 

[evince]

Go read up on his senate career


He is a good and decent man


And he has helped write and pass many things for the people


I voted for Harris in the primary

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I'm a woman.

And?

I’m a female too...

Chick fight! Are you going to meet behind the gym at 3 o'clock? If you wait until 4:20, I'll bring some party favors.

 

[evince]

From the bottom: Each of us has the ability to talk to other people and engage them in discussions. I used to work for political campaigns but gave up when I realized the Democratic Party was not interested in much beyond big money donars.

At the top: President on down must be held to higher standards than...can't we all get along? For example, we need to criticize Speaker Pelosi for not protecting American democracy. Getting money is a very poor substitute for leadership.

Tell us more about your claimed work in the party

 

[Diesel]

I will let that pass.

Very honestly, I don't care what you let pass. We don't know each other. You started a conversation. If you carefully read the 37 pages of your valuable thread, I think you will find that I have participated thoughtfully. I also rained some hell on the resident Trump trolls. A conversation about problems necessitates proposed solutions. I find no value whatsoever in bitching about things if we don't know how we might solve them.

 

[Into the Night]

absolutely wrong.

Everything I've said is accurate.

we have had socialist policies in this country since it began.

No.

the Post Office is a socialist program,

No. It is the Post Office. It is a service authorized in Article I, $8. It does not preclude any other delivery method.

and it was specifically mandated by the Constitution.

Yes it was. Article I, $8.

public schools,

Are established by local communities, according to their local constitutions. The federal government has no authorization there. Such schools do not preclude the use of private schools.

interstate highways,

Are a Post road. Authorized by Article I, $8. Not socialism. The States authorized these, and in turn, the people. That is not socialism.

dams and bridges

Part of Post roads.

and power grids

The government didn't built the power grid. Private industry does.

and internet access

The government didn't build the internet. Private industry does. The government coordinated the creation of the IP, TCP, and UDP protocols, and various universities formed ArpaNet, but Internet was built by private industry.

and the FBI

A police organization. Not socialism.

and the CIA

A police and spy organization. Not socialism.

and NASA

A standards organization. Not socialism. They also commissioned private industry to build spacecraft that flew to the Moon. Capitalism.

and the EPA

That is socialism. There is no authorization for the EPA under the Constitution. It should be disbanded. It is unconstitutional.

and the FDA

That is socialism. There is no authorization for the FDA under the Constitution. It should be disbanded. It is unconstitutional.

and even municipal government programs like water and sanitary and storm and police and firefighters and emergency health care and first responders in general.

Private industry and volunteers. Capitalism and charity.

and yes, Hitler invoked the Lord in many speeches, and even in Mein Kampf, a book he wrote before he gained political power, you just are incredibly low info and resistant to facts.

Yes he did. He knew the power of using religion as a tool to gain power, even though he did not believe any god or gods actually existed. He used the name of Jesus Christ, for example, to justify his hatred of His people. Christ was a Jew, and as a Jew, should be put to death, according to Hitler's sick and twisted logic.

 

[Diesel]

Go read up on his senate career


He is a good and decent man


And he has helped write and pass many things for the people


I voted for Harris in the primary

I voted for Buttigieg. He's so damn wonderful. But Harris is a good second placeholder.

 

[evince]

Chick fight! Are you going to meet behind the gym at 3 o'clock? If you wait until 4:20, I'll bring some party favors.

Violence and sex that minimizes women on your brain huh


I smell a fake

 

[evince]

I voted for Buttigieg. He's so damn wonderful. But Harris is a good second placeholder.

I liked him but he could have never won it


The black voters didn’t trust him

 

[Into the Night]

The only reason I voted for Biden was Trump, so I guess I can't answer your question the way you want it answered.

The only reason you voted for Biden was hate.

 

[Into the Night]

Good that you claim some sort of "victory" where none exists. I imagine it's the closest you've ever gotten to one.

Oh, it exists. The moment you can't form a valid argument.

Argument of the stone fallacy. Bulverism fallacy. No argument presented.

 

[Diesel]

I liked him but he could have never won it


The black voters didn’t trust him

He's still a baby. He has time to work it out.

 

[Into the Night]

Can the country be unified?

It "can." Certainly it is not impossible.

But I doubt it will even come close to becoming unified.

Best to just break it up into several countries. Be better for us...be better for the world.

Not possible. Democrats want to destroy the Constitution and replace it with fascism by oligarchy. Nothing less. Conservatives want to preserve and protect the Constitution.

 

[evince]

Very honestly, I don't care what you let pass. We don't know each other. You started a conversation. If you carefully read the 37 pages of your valuable thread, I think you will find that I have participated thoughtfully. I also rained some hell on the resident Trump trolls. A conversation about problems necessitates proposed solutions. I find no value whatsoever in bitching about things if we don't know how we might solve them.

When claimed left keep trash talking the Democratic Party I get wary


The Democratic Party saved us folks

 

[evince]

He's still a baby. He has time to work it out.

I agree

He can win their trust in time


Biden already had their trust

He earned it over decades

It’s why black voters love him so

 

[Diesel]

When claimed left keep trash talking the Democratic Party I get wary


The Democratic Party saved us folks

Well, that's your prerogative. I am a liberal, but I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton. I was eviscerated by Democrats for years. I made a better decision in this election, but I will be damned to hell for eternity before I ever say a good word about the Democratic party. Awful is awful no matter what color its tie is.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I dunno that he's a plant/bot/whatever. He's just spineless. He doesn't have any position on any issue and finds pleasure in mocking everything and criticizing everyone. He's worthless.

Wow. You've not only raised the bar on Irony, but you've lowered it on lameness. Kudos!

BTW, normal, sane and intelligent adults know that if they want to discuss something, all they have to do is question like an adult.

Bitch, I've asked you several reasonable questions. I'm not fucking with you. Fucking relax and participate thoughtfully in the conversation that you began.

You stupid cunt. Trump did NOTHING to fight corruption. He spent four years promoting as much corruption as he could every minute of every day.

I. Um. I don't know. You've lost me in your typical meandering through the woods of crazy.

OK. Then we need to move back to the original issue. If all these millions of people wanted a fascist dictator, how do we allow them to express those tendencies without electing a fascist dictator? Or are we just destined to fascism?

 

[evince]

What did they do to you diesel?