Canada, Mexico Steelmakers Refuse New US Orders

Truck Fump / h1b said:
the whole point of gobalization was to put america's supply chain in the hands of it's enemies.

globalism is treachery writ large.

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Meh, it's all about labor racketeering; slave labor in Red China at Third World wages while selling in our First World market place. We see none of the savings here and our tax base is eroded to nothing., while billioniares party and indulge in expensive hobbies.
 
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Poor Richard Saunders said:
I guess you don't know that if a tariff is added of 25% then the prices go up 25%. If we then build manufacturing in the US, the prices will stay high because there is no reason to charge less than your competition.
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Not really, but cost accounting isn't a thing with ideologues, left or right; they just babble on and on about stuff they know nothing about, impressing their bosses with how fucking stupid they are about anything to do with business.

And, the sellers are just as likely to drop their prices by enough to keep moving product as they are to raise them.

You really think I Phones cost hundreds of dollars to make? lol dumbass.
 
EdwinA said:
Meh, it's all about labor racketeering; slave labor in Red China at Third World wages while selling in out First World market place. We see none of the savings here and our tax base is eroded to nothing., while billioniares party and indulge in expensive hobbies.
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yes. treachery writ large, as I said.

there is a moral dimension and that moral dimension is filled with evil.
 
EdwinA said:
Not really, but cost accounting isn't a thing with ideologues, left or right; they just babble on and on about stuff they know nothing about, impressing their bosses with how fucking stupid they are about anything to do with business.

And, the sellers are just as likely to drop their prices by enough to keep moving product as they are to raise them.

You really think I Phones cost hundreds of dollars to make? lol dumbass.
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You think there is more than one producer of IPhones? A patent holder with exclusive rights is free to charge whatever the market will pay. Steel is not currently patented by any one company.

Like any item in the economy where there is competition, if an American company sees that they can make a profit selling steel at the price that it is currently being purchased for domestically then they might start producing steel. If they can't make a profit, then they won't start producing steel unless they are looking to lose money.

Yes, foreign importers can drop their prices to the point that domestic steel mills can't compete and they go out of business because they can't make a profit at the price that an imported steel with a 25% tariff is selling for. That would just defeat the claimed purpose of the tariff.
 
Truck Fump / h1b said:
the incentive to be cheaper is to gain market share.

you don't get markets or trade at all.

you're fucking dumb.

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The only reason gaining market share is a good thing is if you can increase production to match the amount that is being purchased. Then if you are losing money to gain market share, you can only do this for a while and eventually you have to raise your prices or you will go out of business.
 
EdwinA said:
I just laugh at Canadian and Mexican boycotts; they will last maybe a month tops, as the crap piles up in warehouses and nobody else wants it or can pay for it.
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The largest imports to the US from Canada are cars/trucks/autoparts, crude oil and oil products, and wood products.

Canadians can just laugh as the price of gas goes up in the US and the price of construction goes up in the US and the price of cars and trucks goes up in the US. They can just put all the workers on unemployment and tell the international companies to talk to the US.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
The only reason gaining market share is a good thing is if you can increase production to match the amount that is being purchased. Then if you are losing money to gain market share, you can only do this for a while and eventually you have to raise your prices or you will go out of business.
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your post here borders on gibberish.

not paying tariff (as domestic producers don't) leaves you a 25% advantage over imports.

and if you don't use that to gain market share, you're bad at business.
 
Truck Fump / h1b said:
your post here borders on gibberish.

not paying tariff (as domestic producers don't) leaves you a 25% advantage over imports.

and if you don't use that to gain market share, you're bad at business.
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You are the one that is bad at business. If a company can sell a Chinese product and make a profit in the US selling for $10 and it costs you $14 to produce the same product in the US, how does that 25% tariff give you an advantage over the import?
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
You are the one that is bad at business. If a company can sell a Chinese product and make a profit in the US selling for $10 and it costs you $14 to produce the same product in the US, how does that 25% tariff give you an advantage over the import?
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tariffs may have to be deeper to counteract the overseas human slavery threatening to destroy freedom on earth.
 
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