Canada, Mexico Steelmakers Refuse New US Orders

AS usual left wing commie deviants don't know anything.

American steel makers mostly use electric arc furnaces, unlike Red China, Indonesia, and all those other shitholes they're praising here. If they really believed their 'climate change' rubbish they would be screaming for steel production to be on-shored here, instead of overseas, where they're building so many new coal fired plants they have to wear gas masks in Peking due to the air pollution. In fact, there are a coiple of new billionaires raking in big bux exporting coal from the U.S.

Dutch Uncle said:
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Joe's looking forward to that minimum wage job shoveling coal in 120F heat for minimum wage and no benefits.

It's only 50 hours a week and no overtime pay!
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^^^ Clueless moron.
 
EdwinA said:
AS usual left wing commie deviants don't know anything.

American steel makers mostly use electric arc furnaces, unlike Red China, Indonesia, and all those other shitholes they're praising here. If they really believed their 'climate change' rubbish they would be screaming for steel production to be on-shored here, instead of overseas, where they're building so many new coal fired plants they have to wear gas masks in Peking due to the air pollution. In fact, there are a coiple of new billionaires raking in big bux exporting coal from the U.S.



^^^ Clueless moron.
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Okey-Dokey; electric furnaces in a 120F heat working for minimum wage and no benefits. Happy now, Ms. Edwina?

Let's not forget all those textile jobs working in a sweatshop just like Norma Rae!

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EdwinA said:
AS usual left wing commie deviants don't know anything.

American steel makers mostly use electric arc furnaces,
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Not correct. They mostly use blast furnaces. It's cheaper and produces better quality and better yield.
EdwinA said:
unlike Red China, Indonesia, and all those other shitholes they're praising here.
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Most of them also use blast furnaces, but not as well built. Some of them use hearth furnaces.
EdwinA said:
If they really believed their 'climate change' rubbish they would be screaming for steel production to be on-shored here, instead of overseas, where they're building so many new coal fired plants they have to wear gas masks in Peking due to the air pollution. In fact, there are a coiple of new billionaires raking in big bux exporting coal from the U.S.
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Coal doesn't have to be sooty during the burn. It is quite possible to burn coal quite cleanly. Indeed, this is actually REQUIRED to make steel.
 
Into the Night said:
Not correct. They mostly use blast furnaces. It's cheaper and produces better quality and better yield.

Most of them also use blast furnaces, but not as well built. Some of them use hearth furnaces.

Coal doesn't have to be sooty during the burn. It is quite possible to burn coal quite cleanly. Indeed, this is actually REQUIRED to make steel.
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In one respect, the United States is ahead of the curve. About 70 percent of the nation’s total steel supply is made by melting down recycled scrap in electric arc furnaces, of which there are more than 150 nationwide. But many companies still rely on primary steel to meet the strength and quality requirements of their finished goods.

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Move over, data centers. US steel mills need lots of clean power too.

A new report quantifies just how much clean electricity the US steel industry will need to decarbonize — a task that could get even harder under Donald…
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The imported steel is made in blast furnaces; the U.S. is moving to EAF's for new steel; it's a matter of time and finding investors. The latter will get easier with tariffs in place on imports. The Trump bashing aside, which is weird considering it will be on-shoring back to the U.S. and Europe that will ultimately reduce burning coal for anything; the 'environmentalists' are mostly idiots and ideologues, not rationalists.

Also see this article from MIT:

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What will it take for the American steel industry to go ‘fossil-free’?

This story by MIT Environmental Solutions Journalism Fellow Reid Frazier was originally published in the Allegheny Front, where it appears as an audio report and with additional photos and resources. Inside a warehouse in the northern Swedish city of Luleå, Helena Sundberg grabs a handful of...
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The Biden administration successfully pushed through renewables-friendly policies, like the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act, which included subsidies for clean energy and clean hydrogen. It also set aside $1 billion for two steel companies to develop low-carbon steel.

One is Sweden’s SSAB, to build a hydrogen-based steel plant in Mississippi. According to the company, the project is still subject to negotiation between the Department of Energy and SSAB.

The other is Cleveland-Cliffs, for a plant in Ohio to use natural gas to process iron ore instead of coal. The plant, which is in the initial planning stages, could eventually be converted to hydrogen.

Cleveland-Cliffs CEO Lourenco Goncalves told investors earlier this year that hydrogen was game-changing for the industry.

“Going forward, we expect a lot of progress over the next decade with emphasis on hydrogen,” he said.

The U.S. steel industry already has a lower carbon footprint than steel industries in other countries because most of its steel is produced out of scrap metal in electric arc furnaces. But the industry still produces about 30 percent of its steel using traditional, coal-based blast furnaces, such as U.S. Steel’s Mon Valley Works.

Lots of new tech on the way, and it won't be used in third world shitholes first. We need to build about 40 nuclear plants at least.
 
SlaveForChrist said:
oh so now we're buying outside resources? the same resources the orange shitstain is tarrif-ing....... And you were just claiming we could do it all here, so now youre admitting thats not true either... fucking dumbass
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yes.

maybe.

but if were using those outside resources to build factories to get OFF outside resources in the future, it's a smart move.

you don't get smart things because you're dumb.

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