Canadians urge ban on potash sales to USA

[Into the Night]

I am sure Canada can find a buyer for their potash, the world is a large place and the USA isn't their only customer .

Meh. Let 'em.

 

[Into the Night]

It is remarkably convenient that Saskatchewan is right up the road from the American Midwest.

Saskatchewan IS in the American Midwest, Sybil.

I'm sure Trump and MAGA morons would rather make Canada our enemy,

MAGA isn't a person, Sybil.
Trump will simply charge the same tariffs that Canada charges.

and start buying potash from Russia.

There is already plenty of potash in the United States, Sybil.

But Trump swore he was going to bring grocery prices down on Day One, not inflate prices.

He never said any such thing. It takes time to recover the economic damage caused by Democrats.
But it's happening.

 

[Into the Night]

With Russia having trouble exporting its potash, the world is desperate for potash. This is the wrong time to piss off the Canadians.

The world is not desperate for potash, Sybil. You are still hallucinating.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

There it is. The USA needs them for the low prices.

Trump isn't very good at economy, is he?

He's toying with America as if it's his business enterprise to risk failure on.

Not the point. Canada has no alternative market for most of what they're selling to the US. For example, Ottawa sells hydroelectric power to the US at about 60% of what customers pay for US generated power. If that market disappears, the Canadian suppliers have no other market. They make NOTHING instead.

If on the other hand, the Canadian suppliers raise their rates for whatever reason, that only means that US buyers are incentivized to buy elsewhere or might be told to buy elsewhere. That cripples Canadian suppliers even if it raises US costs.

Same thing with charging a toll for the Al Can highway. The US might turn to using shipping instead leaving Canada with nothing.

Is this all very risky? Sure, it is. But Canada isn't holding a strong hand here, they need US trade where the US can survive without Canadian trade.

 

[Into the Night]

Canada? We really don't. As far as I can tell, the only reason Canada makes out and has lots of trade with the US is because they offer much lower prices than US vendors do.

Not anymore.

 

[Into the Night]

That is Rob Ford, who has been dead for 8+ years. He did not live to see the first trump administration, much less to threaten our potash supply. Had Rob Ford said that in 2015, we would have all thought the drugs were getting to him.

When Doug Ford says it today, it makes sense.

There is no threat to the supply of potash, Wally.

 

[AProudLefty]

Not the point. Canada has no alternative market for most of what they're selling to the US. For example, Ottawa sells hydroelectric power to the US at about 60% of what customers pay for US generated power. If that market disappears, the Canadian suppliers have no other market. They make NOTHING instead.

If on the other hand, the Canadian suppliers raise their rates for whatever reason, that only means that US buyers are incentivized to buy elsewhere or might be told to buy elsewhere. That cripples Canadian suppliers even if it raises US costs.

Same thing with charging a toll for the Al Can highway. The US might turn to using shipping instead leaving Canada with nothing.

Is this all very risky? Sure, it is. But Canada isn't holding a strong hand here, they need US trade where the US can survive without Canadian trade.

All of which costs more money. Brilliant business plan.

America is not a business enterprise.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Not the point. Canada has no alternative market for most of what they're selling to the US. For example, Ottawa sells hydroelectric power to the US at about 60% of what customers pay for US generated power. If that market disappears, the Canadian suppliers have no other market. They make NOTHING instead.

If on the other hand, the Canadian suppliers raise their rates for whatever reason, that only means that US buyers are incentivized to buy elsewhere or might be told to buy elsewhere. That cripples Canadian suppliers even if it raises US costs.

Same thing with charging a toll for the Al Can highway. The US might turn to using shipping instead leaving Canada with nothing.

Is this all very risky? Sure, it is. But Canada isn't holding a strong hand here, they need US trade where the US can survive without Canadian trade.

People can do some really stupid stupid things out of hate...Look for instance at the Europeans who refuse to give up the lost Imperial Empire war against Russia, even as it drives collapse of Europe and NATO.....and has made Russia and China blood brothers.....which is likely devastating to our future.

 

[Into the Night]

It is clearly Rob Ford. The point here is image searches often make mistakes. If you were better, you would compare him to other pictures.

So? Why do you think posting pictures of random people somehow makes you win the argument, Wally??

The idea of having a trade war between Canada and the USA would have seemed bizarre in 2016, but seems very possible right now. It is amazing how things suddenly change.

Canada will lose.

 

[Into the Night]

All of which costs more money. Brilliant business plan.

America is not a business enterprise.

Selling nothing doesn't cost more money, Sybil. International trade is a business enterprise.

 

[Into the Night]

...and on and on and on.

Random phrase. No apparent coherency.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

People can do some really stupid stupid things out of hate...Look for instance at the Europeans who refuse to give up the lost Imperial Empire war against Russia, even as it drives collapse of Europe and NATO.....and has made Russia and China blood brothers.....which is likely devastating to our future.

What is Trump demanding Canada do?

 

[Into the Night]

Talking about a trade war between the USA and Canada in 2016 would have been insane.

Not at all. It was bound to happen, due to abusive tariffs by Canada.

Talking about it now makes sense. I am not agreeing with it, but it is a logical issue.

I really do not know how I can explain this too you more... So I am moving on.

Pivoting is not 'moving on', Wally. It's a fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

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Random image. No apparent coherency.

 

[Hawkeye10]

What is Trump demanding Canada do?

Justify their existence.....and given how freedom in Canada has collapsed and how they have been bad mouthing America in recent years he does not feel the need to be nice about it....which the Canadians cant get over.

 

[Into the Night]

If that happens, the US can make potash from fly ash a residual biproduct of coal fired power generation. In fact, that would help to get rid of the huge piles of coal ash around the US while making use of it.

Coal is not potassium and contains no salts containing potassium.

 

[Into the Night]

What is Trump demanding Canada do?

Basically, to drop it's abusive tarrifs. Then Trump will do the same.
Also, Trump wants Canada to do more to stop fentynal materials from entering the United States from Canada.

 

[AProudLefty]

Random image. No apparent coherency.

Random babbling. No apparent coherency.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

Your crack addiction is getting turning your brain to mush and making you massively confused.

Rob Ford was the drug-addled former mayor of Toronto.

This article is about Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario province.

They are all on crack up there, my bad.

They're going to find out if they fuck around.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

There it is. The USA needs them for the low prices.

Trump isn't very good at economy, is he?

He's toying with America as if it's his business enterprise to risk failure on.

Americans need to understand the difference between a want and a need. Fat, lazy and entitled we are.