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"ATLANTA (AP) — Jimmy Carter is sometimes called a better former president than he was president.

Nodding to Carter's decades of work as a globe-trotting humanitarian but with a glaring reminder of his landslide defeat in 1980, the backhanded compliment rankles Carter allies and, they say, the former president himself.

Yet now, 40 years removed from the White House, the most famous resident of Plains, Georgia, is riding a new wave of attention as biographers, filmmakers, climate activists and Carter’s fellow Democrats push to recast his presidential legacy, even as Republicans sometimes try to remind voters of the volatile economy and international affairs that doomed Carter to one term.

The renewed spotlight is especially significant for the broad swath of Americans too young to remember a presidency that spanned from 1977 to 1981. Sandwiched between the Watergate era of Richard Nixon and two terms of Ronald Reagan, Carter's tenure came before Millennials or Generation Z voters were born and earlier than most of Generation X reached political awareness.

“People have always come up to tell me how much, my grandfather and my grandmother meant to them,” Jason Carter, 46, said in an interview. “They used to be my parents’ age or older. Now they’re younger than I am, sometimes much younger. It’s a remarkable thing.”

...

“There was so much distrust in government (and) he had a message of truth and honesty,” Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar told The Associated Press, explaining after one of her visits why she sometimes invoked Carter as she campaigned.

Biden, who as a young Delaware politician became the first U.S. senator to endorse Carter's 1976 bid, capped the pilgrimage parade in April, as he and first lady Jill Biden visited privately with Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter at their home.

“We talked about old times,” Biden told reporters afterward."

Jimmy Carter, trounced in 1980, gets fresh look from history
 
Jimmy Carter did a fantastic job as president.

He really got swiftboated by the cruelty of the right wing propaganda-sphere.

His second term was a victim of an oil and energy crisis and the Iran hostage crisis.

It was a big mistake when America elected Reagan.
 
"ATLANTA (AP) — Jimmy Carter is sometimes called a better former president than he was president.

Nodding to Carter's decades of work as a globe-trotting humanitarian but with a glaring reminder of his landslide defeat in 1980, the backhanded compliment rankles Carter allies and, they say, the former president himself.

Yet now, 40 years removed from the White House, the most famous resident of Plains, Georgia, is riding a new wave of attention as biographers, filmmakers, climate activists and Carter’s fellow Democrats push to recast his presidential legacy, even as Republicans sometimes try to remind voters of the volatile economy and international affairs that doomed Carter to one term.

The renewed spotlight is especially significant for the broad swath of Americans too young to remember a presidency that spanned from 1977 to 1981. Sandwiched between the Watergate era of Richard Nixon and two terms of Ronald Reagan, Carter's tenure came before Millennials or Generation Z voters were born and earlier than most of Generation X reached political awareness.

“People have always come up to tell me how much, my grandfather and my grandmother meant to them,” Jason Carter, 46, said in an interview. “They used to be my parents’ age or older. Now they’re younger than I am, sometimes much younger. It’s a remarkable thing.”

...

“There was so much distrust in government (and) he had a message of truth and honesty,” Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar told The Associated Press, explaining after one of her visits why she sometimes invoked Carter as she campaigned.

Biden, who as a young Delaware politician became the first U.S. senator to endorse Carter's 1976 bid, capped the pilgrimage parade in April, as he and first lady Jill Biden visited privately with Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter at their home.

“We talked about old times,” Biden told reporters afterward."

Jimmy Carter, trounced in 1980, gets fresh look from history

He looks a lot better in hindsight.

The Iran hostage crisis took all the wind out of his sails at the time.

But in the grand scheme of things, we really needed a post- Vietnam, post- Watergate president like him.
 
"ATLANTA (AP) — Jimmy Carter is sometimes called a better former president than he was president.

Nodding to Carter's decades of work as a globe-trotting humanitarian but with a glaring reminder of his landslide defeat in 1980, the backhanded compliment rankles Carter allies and, they say, the former president himself.

Yet now, 40 years removed from the White House, the most famous resident of Plains, Georgia, is riding a new wave of attention as biographers, filmmakers, climate activists and Carter’s fellow Democrats push to recast his presidential legacy, even as Republicans sometimes try to remind voters of the volatile economy and international affairs that doomed Carter to one term.

The renewed spotlight is especially significant for the broad swath of Americans too young to remember a presidency that spanned from 1977 to 1981. Sandwiched between the Watergate era of Richard Nixon and two terms of Ronald Reagan, Carter's tenure came before Millennials or Generation Z voters were born and earlier than most of Generation X reached political awareness.

“People have always come up to tell me how much, my grandfather and my grandmother meant to them,” Jason Carter, 46, said in an interview. “They used to be my parents’ age or older. Now they’re younger than I am, sometimes much younger. It’s a remarkable thing.”

...

“There was so much distrust in government (and) he had a message of truth and honesty,” Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar told The Associated Press, explaining after one of her visits why she sometimes invoked Carter as she campaigned.

Biden, who as a young Delaware politician became the first U.S. senator to endorse Carter's 1976 bid, capped the pilgrimage parade in April, as he and first lady Jill Biden visited privately with Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter at their home.

“We talked about old times,” Biden told reporters afterward."

Jimmy Carter, trounced in 1980, gets fresh look from history
I say if we had just listened to him…he put solar panels on the White House!
 
Jimmy Carter did a fantastic job as president.

He really got swiftboated by the cruelty of the right wing propaganda-sphere.

His second term was a victim of an oil and energy crisis and the Iran hostage crisis.

It was a big mistake when America elected Reagan.

I own up to my vote for Reagan, but liberals have themselves to blame to an extent for Carter's defeat. Many liberals I knew voted for John Anderson, denying Carter their votes.
 
It's long since time to set the record straight.

Jimmy Carter is an honest man, he did an excellent job, and we were lucky to have him at that time.
 
I own up to my vote for Reagan, but liberals have themselves to blame to an extent for Carter's defeat. Many liberals I knew voted for John Anderson, denying Carter their votes.
Reagan did the best acting of his life. He convinced a lot of people he was a better deal than Carter. I never believed it and still don’t.
 
It's long since time to set the record straight.

Jimmy Carter is an honest man, he did an excellent job, and we were lucky to have him at that time.
Amen, we’re still lucky to have him. He walks the walk and talks the talk. A very genuine person.
 
Reagan did the best acting of his life. He convinced a lot of people he was a better deal than Carter. I never believed it and still don’t.

The ironic thing is that while Carter bungled his response to the hostage crisis, he at least never caved to Iran or gave them what they wanted.

In stark contrast, Reagan almost immediately caved to Iran several years later and illegally gave them high tech American weapons in exchange for hostages.
 
Hello Cypress,

I own up to my vote for Reagan, but liberals have themselves to blame to an extent for Carter's defeat. Many liberals I knew voted for John Anderson, denying Carter their votes.

Reagan had that charisma, that likeability and familiarity which came from being in so many commercials and B movies that many were already familiar with him.

I think the fact that he was governor of California was a big factor in California going liberal.
 
Hello Phantasmal,

Reagan did the best acting of his life. He convinced a lot of people he was a better deal than Carter. I never believed it and still don’t.

Neither did I. And I always objected to that nonsense the right tried to create around his death when they tried to claim he was 'loved by all.' Um, no, that was total BS. The left STRONGLY opposed him and most of what he stood for.
 
Jimmy Carter did a fantastic job as president.

He really got swiftboated by the cruelty of the right wing propaganda-sphere.

His second term was a victim of an oil and energy crisis and the Iran hostage crisis.

It was a big mistake when America elected Reagan.

he fucking sucked ass. Double digit inflation and interest, I just just a teenager but my family struggled under reign as money didn't go far and they trying to run a business on double digit interest. It was the poorest I ever remember my family being. It was awful in everyway.
 
Hello Cypress,



Reagan had that charisma, that likeability and familiarity which came from being in so many commercials and B movies that many were already familiar with him.

I think the fact that he was governor of California was a big factor in California going liberal.

I'll bite. Reagan was Governor of California from '67-'75. How was that the impetus for California turning blue later in the '90's?
 
Hello cawacko,

I'll bite. Reagan was Governor of California from '67-'75. How was that the impetus for California turning blue later in the '90's?

It was what people saw of him after he became president and his California decisions had time to sink in.
 
"ATLANTA (AP) — Jimmy Carter is sometimes called a better former president than he was president.

Nodding to Carter's decades of work as a globe-trotting humanitarian but with a glaring reminder of his landslide defeat in 1980, the backhanded compliment rankles Carter allies and, they say, the former president himself.

Yet now, 40 years removed from the White House, the most famous resident of Plains, Georgia, is riding a new wave of attention as biographers, filmmakers, climate activists and Carter’s fellow Democrats push to recast his presidential legacy, even as Republicans sometimes try to remind voters of the volatile economy and international affairs that doomed Carter to one term.

The renewed spotlight is especially significant for the broad swath of Americans too young to remember a presidency that spanned from 1977 to 1981. Sandwiched between the Watergate era of Richard Nixon and two terms of Ronald Reagan, Carter's tenure came before Millennials or Generation Z voters were born and earlier than most of Generation X reached political awareness.

“People have always come up to tell me how much, my grandfather and my grandmother meant to them,” Jason Carter, 46, said in an interview. “They used to be my parents’ age or older. Now they’re younger than I am, sometimes much younger. It’s a remarkable thing.”

...

“There was so much distrust in government (and) he had a message of truth and honesty,” Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar told The Associated Press, explaining after one of her visits why she sometimes invoked Carter as she campaigned.

Biden, who as a young Delaware politician became the first U.S. senator to endorse Carter's 1976 bid, capped the pilgrimage parade in April, as he and first lady Jill Biden visited privately with Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter at their home.

“We talked about old times,” Biden told reporters afterward."

Jimmy Carter, trounced in 1980, gets fresh look from history

biden makes the peanut farmer look like Winston Churchill.
 
Hello cawacko,



It was what people saw of him after he became president and his California decisions had time to sink in.

What decisions did he make as Governor that 20+ years later people just decided "I may not have been living in the state at the time but I'm going to start voting for Democrats because I don't like what Reagan did before I moved here."
 
Hello cawacko,

What decisions did he make as Governor that 20+ years later people just decided "I may not have been living in the state at the time but I'm going to start voting for Democrats because I don't like what Reagan did before I moved here."

Well, you'd have to tell me the answer to that because you wrote it, not me.

No, I would not picture anyone saying it like that, but the more people who learn how hard-conservative Reagan was has a tendency to make someone unpopular

Reagan:

Went after 'communists' in the Screen Actors Guild,

Campaigned on a message of 'cleaning up the (free speech) mess at Berkley,' to be elected governor,

Totally went after the entire college as governor,

Tried to force the college to expel liberals,

Sicced the National Guard on the Berkley campus

All this caused people to take a closer look at what Reagan was fighting against.

Did pretty much the entire anti Vietnam War movement grow out of those original Berkley protests?

Sure got a lot of attention when Reagan sent the National Guard to attack one of his own colleges with helicopter sprayed tear gas. Right in the middle of the Vietnam War. Brilliant. A lot of people took notice. That incident ushered in a movement. The movement was slow to build, but Reagan certainly had his hand prints on it.
 
Hello cawacko,



Well, you'd have to tell me the answer to that because you wrote it, not me.

No, I would not picture anyone saying it like that, but the more people who learn how hard-conservative Reagan was has a tendency to make someone unpopular

Reagan:

Went after 'communists' in the Screen Actors Guild,

Campaigned on a message of 'cleaning up the (free speech) mess at Berkley,' to be elected governor,

Totally went after the entire college as governor,

Tried to force the college to expel liberals,

Sicced the National Guard on the Berkley campus

All this caused people to take a closer look at what Reagan was fighting against.

Did pretty much the entire anti Vietnam War movement grow out of those original Berkley protests?

Sure got a lot of attention when Reagan sent the National Guard to attack one of his own colleges with helicopter sprayed tear gas. Right in the middle of the Vietnam War. Brilliant. A lot of people took notice. That incident ushered in a movement. The movement was slow to build, but Reagan certainly had his hand prints on it.

I lived here for over 35 years and have followed the state's politics pretty closely. Don't know if I've ever heard a single person say the Ronald Reagan run as Governor was the reason the state turned blue in the mid to late '90's.

But maybe someone not from here knows more than we do.
 
Hello cawacko,

I lived here for over 35 years and have followed the state's politics pretty closely. Don't know if I've ever heard a single person say the Ronald Reagan run as Governor was the reason the state turned blue in the mid to late '90's.

But maybe someone not from here knows more than we do.

That's my perception of it. Carter was a beacon of virtue. Reagan was a flashpoint of hatred for liberals.
 
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