Chavez Belittles Opposition Win: Vows to Pursue Constitutional Reform

Young Libertarian said:
I'm not a chest-thumping nationalist or anything, bac, but it's pretty fucked up that you will pay a higher cost to support a foreign country's state-owned oil company over an American one.
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I respect your right to feel "fucked up" about anything I believe.

Just respect my right to remain amused by your devotion to the puppetmasters.

Please don't tell me you're antiwar.
 
Damocles said:
All oil companies are multi-nationals and get the resource wherever the best price is.
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Venezeula's state owned company has a majority stake in each of the drilling operations in Venezuela. When Chavez nationalized the oil industry, corporations were permitted to stay on as "minority partners".
 
blackascoal said:
I respect your right to feel "fucked up" about anything I believe.

Just respect my right to remain amused by your devotion to the puppetmasters.

Please don't tell me you're antiwar.
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I am, but I won't tell you that if you don't want to hear it.
 
I think US companies should pay fair market value for all oil and gas from US federal lands and offshore.
 
uscitizen said:
I think US companies should pay fair market value for all oil and gas from US federal lands and offshore.
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Fair market value? Whose? Opec's? Chavez's? Bush's?

The "fair market value" is impossible to assess without letting the market decide it.
 
Who gives a shit.............

about this little tin horn dictator...except for maybe communist sympathizers...don't give this little pervert anymore air or board time...he is going down hard soon! Now back to reality UNR kicking NMSU's butt...lol
 
Young Libertarian said:
I am, but I won't tell you that if you don't want to hear it.
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Are you unaware that the attack on Iraq and Afghanistan were motivated, pursued, and argued for by the very same oil corporations you feel so patriotic about?

Do you think Citgo was in on the secret meetings between Cheney and your prescious oil corporations?

Are you aware the these corporations feel no such patriotism for this nation or you?
 
Battleborne said:
about this little tin horn dictator...except for maybe communist sympathizers...don't give this little pervert anymore air or board time...he is going down hard soon! Now back to reality UNR kicking NMSU's butt...lol
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What? .. you mean like Castro .. who has outlasted 11 US Presidents?

What's going down hard is the Republican Party and the memory of their reign of terror.
 
alas , Peoples memories are short, very short. the Rebutlikens will be back....
A few of them even have a few good ideas.
 
IHG said:
What is your opinion on Castro?
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I like Castro. He's endured and survived tremendous US pressure and assassination attempts. The revolution that brought him to power threw out the criminal Batista regime that was a puppet for the mafia and US business interests. The fact that Batista and his mafia friends staged donkey shows was reason enough to thrown the bastards out, but the US government didn't care about the abuse and degradation of the cuban people no differently than they didn't care about the tortured citizens under Pinochet, Saddam, the Shah of Iran, or any other dictator tyrant that does their bidding.

Castro brought literacy to Cuba and now cubans are more literate than Americans. Castro educated doctors in Cuba and now doctors from all over the world travel to Cuba to study. He brought better health to the cuban people and now America has a higher infant mortality rate than Cuba.

The Cuban economy would be BOOMING if not for US sanctions and far fewer cubans would end up on US shores.

Castro is no threat to the United States, no threat to the United States.
 
Leaning, you think Castro/Cuba is still a threat to us ?

BTW they do allow Christian churches in Cuba, I used to work with them when I lived in FL.
 
leaningright said:
BAC, you are one scary dude. Whew....
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What's scary is stupid people, and I'm not of of them.

Stupid people who can't think for themselves and must be led .. you know, the kind of stupid people you can tell to be afraid of "mushroom clouds in 45 minutes" .. from a small nation that has been under sanctions for a dozen years. The kind of stupid people that voted for Bush then cheered as he took this nation into the worst strategic, political, and military blunder in American history.

You know, stupid scary cowardly people who fear small nations and are controlled by their paranoid fear of everything. it isn't just me who's "scary" to cowardly people, they're afraid of everything .. including conversation.

Stupid people afraid of any ideas that haven't been spoon-fed to them by the plutocracy.

If there is a particular subject you'd like to discuss that demonstrates why I'm so scary to you, feel free to jump right in. I welcome the opportunity to illuminate the utter uselessness and failure of cowardly fear.
 
blackascoal said:
What's scary is stupid people, and I'm not of of them.

Stupid people who can't think for themselves and must be led .. you know, the kind of stupid people you can tell to be afraid of "mushroom clouds in 45 minutes" .. from a small nation that has been under sanctions for a dozen years. The kind of stupid people that voted for Bush then cheered as he took this nation into the worst strategic, political, and military blunder in American history.

You know, stupid scary cowardly people who fear small nations and are controlled by their paranoid fear of everything. it isn't just me who's "scary" to cowardly people, they're afraid of everything .. including conversation.

Stupid people afraid of any ideas that haven't been spoon-fed to them by the plutocracy.

If there is a particular subject you'd like to discuss that demonstrates why I'm so scary to you, feel free to jump right in. I welcome the opportunity to illuminate the utter uselessness and failure of cowardly fear.
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Great post bac.
 
blackascoal said:
What's scary is stupid people, and I'm not of of them.

Stupid people who can't think for themselves and must be led .. you know, the kind of stupid people you can tell to be afraid of "mushroom clouds in 45 minutes" .. from a small nation that has been under sanctions for a dozen years. The kind of stupid people that voted for Bush then cheered as he took this nation into the worst strategic, political, and military blunder in American history.

You know, stupid scary cowardly people who fear small nations and are controlled by their paranoid fear of everything. it isn't just me who's "scary" to cowardly people, they're afraid of everything .. including conversation.

Stupid people afraid of any ideas that haven't been spoon-fed to them by the plutocracy.

If there is a particular subject you'd like to discuss that demonstrates why I'm so scary to you, feel free to jump right in. I welcome the opportunity to illuminate the utter uselessness and failure of cowardly fear.
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burn this seditious post ! ;)
 
Young Libertarian said:
Well this is beginning to look more like how dictators act.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7130347.stm

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has lashed out at his opponents and vowed to pursue plans for constitutional reform despite his referendum defeat.

Speaking on state television, Mr Chavez used offensive language to heap scorn on the opposition's surprise victory.

Mr Chavez also denied reports he had been pressured by the military to accept defeat in Sunday's vote.

Venezuelans voted 51% to 49% against the proposals, which included ending presidential term limits.

When he first acknowledged defeat, Mr Chavez had adopted a calm and measured tone, accepting the outcome as a "decision the people have made".

But on Wednesday, speaking at a televised news conference alongside armed forces chiefs, he decried the opposition's success as "a shit victory".

The defeat of his plans, by contrast, was "courageous, full of valour, of dignity", he said.

A petition signed by 15% of voters could demand that a new referendum be looked at.

Mr Chavez could also change some laws by decree or set up a constituent assembly elected by voters which would write a new constitution.

During his television appearance, Mr Chavez and his Defence Minister, Gustavo Rangel Briceno, also rejected reports that high-ranking military officers had pressured him to concede victory in the early hours of Monday.
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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has lashed out at his opponents and vowed to pursue plans for constitutional reform despite his referendum defeat.


Bush - Mr. 24% approval rating - pursues constitutional amendmenst that most americans disagree with. Hello? Gay marriage amendment?
 
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