ChickFilA reverses position and gives religious conservatards the middle finger!!

Jarod said:
these hormones are artificially injected. They make the meat chewy and uber thick, you are a dunce who thinks he is smart, I bump into all kinds of you types. Knows just enough to think he is a stable genius.
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I used to raise chickens. They are not 'pumped full of hormones'. The chicks are given an vaccine to prevent disease (while still in their eggs no less!), and that's it. Just good old grain (usually corn or wheat). Some farms use steroids to increase muscle mass for chickens destined to for the slaughterhouse. It doesn't toughen up anything.

I think you don't know how to cook chicken. Overcooking a chicken will make it tough and rubbery.
 
Penderyn said:
Obviously there is. The state becomes a big, inefficient firm on the world market, like your monopolies, and the boss class runs it and profits.
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No, even then the government does not create any wealth. It doesn't profit either. They are only stealing the wealth from others. Slavery is theft of wealth and theft of labor.
 
Penderyn said:
Each State and the Central Government run by and worked in the interests of the capitalists, obviously. A tiny proportion of people are capitalists, and nobody else gets a look in, not anywhere.
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You are describing socialism, not capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.
 
Penderyn said:
How can it be? All State governments are the central committees of the ruling class, and the vast majority can't be a ruling class, obviously.
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Oh, yeah, they really have the interests of the people at heart, those central committees.

I know as a Marxist, you are only capable of having a conversation if you are permitted to define everything by an incorrect view of class, but, in a liberal democracy, all classes are the ruling class.
 
Into the Night said:
North Korea. Argentina. Cuba. Iran. China. The U.S. Army has not destroyed any of these nations.
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Bit like listing the United States, Hitler's German and the old racist South Africa as 'Christian', kid. You mustn't believe all your masters tell you! :) Socialism is control by the vast working majority.
 
Bull Durham said:
Oh, yeah, they really have the interests of the people at heart, those central committees.

I know as a Marxist, you are only capable of having a conversation if you are permitted to define everything by an incorrect view of class, but, in a liberal democracy, all classes are the ruling class.
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Do they buggery. All capitalist, everywhere and always, have one interest at heart only - their own. Have you any idea at all of what you are talking about? What do you define class by? Hair colour? Size of ears? The only useful definition of class is how the people in it get a living, obviously.
 
Penderyn said:
There are, obviously, no socialist governments on earth. Your capitalist armies destroy any such things at once.
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so it is silly to pretend there is a "socialism" as you define it........we are talking about socialism as it exists in reality, not as it exists in your imagination........
 
Penderyn said:
Do they buggery. All capitalist, everywhere and always, have one interest at heart only - their own. Have you any idea at all of what you are talking about? What do you define class by? Hair colour? Size of ears? The only useful definition of class is how the people in it get a living, obviously.
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Yes, the people have their own interests at heart. Not the interests of the central committee, or those of the party at-large, or those of retarded Marxist ideologues such as yourself. You want people to choose a slavish devotion to your grand ideology, its parties, and their central committees, rather than to themselves and their families. That is not going to happen (except in North Korea), nor should it happen.

Since you would prefer that people not get a living, it kind of ruins your whole argument about class.
 
Penderyn said:
Obviously. No capitalist ever created wealth - they just steal it.
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No, you are describing socialism again. You really seem to be confused about the difference between capitalism and socialism. Capitalism is the only economic system that creates wealth. Socialism can only exist by stealing wealth.
 
Penderyn said:
Bit like listing the United States, Hitler's German and the old racist South Africa as 'Christian', kid. You mustn't believe all your masters tell you! :) Socialism is control by the vast working majority.
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Nazis are socialists. Capitalism is control by the vast working majority. You have it exactly backwards.
 
Bull Durham said:
Yes, the people have their own interests at heart. Not the interests of the central committee, or those of the party at-large, or those of retarded Marxist ideologues such as yourself. You want people to choose a slavish devotion to your grand ideology, its parties, and their central committees, rather than to themselves and their families. That is not going to happen (except in North Korea), nor should it happen.

Since you would prefer that people not get a living, it kind of ruins your whole argument about class.
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What are you on about now? McCarthy very fully brainwashed you mugs against magic words. You manage to believe grimly, determinedly and against all the evidence, that I believe in State Capitalism, which rather limits discussion: it is like talking to someone who is meanwhile bashing his brains out on a bog wall. Without you scumbags people could live much better on a few hours work a week, but most people prefer to be useful.
 
Into the Night said:
No, you are describing socialism again. You really seem to be confused about the difference between capitalism and socialism. Capitalism is the only economic system that creates wealth. Socialism can only exist by stealing wealth.
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Capitalists =vermin, socialists = working people. Trumpers are people who live a century ago. Coming down for the trees, living in caves, learning agriculture and creative thieving are all necessary states in human evolution: we'd be there now but for you primitives.
 
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Penderyn said:
Capitalists =vermin, socialists + working people. Trumpers are people who live a century ago. Coming down for the trees, living in caves, learning agriculture and creative thieving are all necessary states in human evolution: we'd be there now but for you primitives.
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The “working people” in Socialist Venezuela are starving and leaving the country in search of food...and freedom, Marxist America hating Iolo sock.
 
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