China's influence has become so great that it can't now be effectively stopped.

anatta said:
when is the last time I wrote fuck you -especially to you?
Do I not always treat you with respect?

but enough of the temperamental junk
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The link I gave earlier outlined China's positive and negative asset and problems.
Long term starving China of financial resources is they way to go - but saying that doesn't just make it happen.

If you want my opinion we have to hold China to Phase 1. compare that to Biden's embrace of China in the WTO
Biden thinks the WTO is sufficient wit their appeals process protocol
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I WROTE IT IN GREEN, I was kidding, shhhisshh..

Exactly... It is much easier said than done..........

While they bleed we will feel the pain as well........

If confrontation is going to be needed-the next step, why does/is phase one even an issue.......

Once you hit them they are going to screw us anyway they can, & that seems like a pretty easy place to start
 
Bill said:
I WROTE IT IN GREEN, I was kidding, shhhisshh..

Exactly... It is much easier said than done..........

While they bleed we will feel the pain as well........

If confrontation is going to be needed-the next step why does/is phase one even an issue.......

Once you hit them they are going to screw us anyway they can, & that seems like a pretty easy place to start
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lol..now I'm getting old -missed the green. .
forget military confrontations other then maybe some SChina sea fire fight

IDK,, 12:30 here man, i need some sleep . will think on iti and hit you up tomorow
 
anatta said:
lol..now I'm getting old -missed the green. .
forget military confrontations other then maybe some SChina sea fire fight

IDK,, 12:30 here man, i need some sleep . will think on iti and hit you up tomorow
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You recall a month or so I asked you if you were using your phone?? That's why I asked, as you didn't seem to notice it..

I bold & italic but on some phones colors can be muted, especially in certain lights........

K, sleep well homie.......... :)
 
Bill said:
HOW??

Why hasn't trump done it already??

What is he waiting for??

I think we both know the longer it takes to do something like this, the more time they'll have to counter it........


"Hide your capacities, bide your time." ​

What do you think they are hiding??
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You can't just shut off supply chains overnight. The West has become incredibly complacent and lazy. Now even Germany is starting to wake up to the danger.

https://carnegieendowment.org/2020/03/25/germany-s-strategic-gray-zone-with-china-pub-81360
 
Grajonca said:
You can't just shut off supply chains overnight. The West has become incredibly complacent and lazy. Now even the EU is starting to wake up to the danger.
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Yes, I have been watching
& was pleased to see it. I think that tough talk threats to the Czech was a very arrogant wake-up call....

No, & they know we can't........... While we were conquering the middle east for democracy they were planning & building & inviting western investment.......

They were not only building an economic superPower but also an economic reliance, a reliance on them........

Was obviously a yuge blunder.....

While trump slapped their hand over hong kong removing most favored nation status is way past due & needs to be the next step, that will help dampen that reliance.

That will come @ a great cost to the west/USA as well.............. Is that politically feasible @ this point??

What do you think about the turks shooting down the Armenian jet??
 
Bill said:
Yes, I have been watching German TV recently & was pleased to see it. I think that tough talk threats to the Czech was a very arrogant wake-up call....

No, & they know we can't........... While we were conquering the middle east for democracy they were planning & building & inviting western investment.......

They were not only building an economic superPower but also an economic reliance, a reliance on them........

Was obviously a yuge blunder.....

While trump slapped their hand over hong kong removing most favored nation status is way past due & needs to be the next step, that will help dampen that reliance.

That will come @ a great cost to the west/USA as well.............. Is that politically feasible @ this point??

What do you think about the turks shooting down the Armenian jet??
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The Turks have always hated the Armenians look at the 1915 Genocide for the evidence of their cruelty. Even now it is illegal to talk about it in Turkey, journalists have been locked up for it! Erdogan is a despot who is running Turkey into the ground.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?mcubz=3
 
Grajonca said:
The Turks have always hated the Armenians look at the 1915 Genocide for the evidence of their cruelty. Even now it is illegal to talk about it in Turkey, journalists have been locked up for it! Erdogan is a despot who is running Turkey into the ground.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?mcubz=3
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It is scary how fast Turkey has declined, it was only 20 years ago that they were sure that they were destined to become a first tier nation, and look at them now....
 
Bill said:
Why are you talking about biden?? Lets talk about your country.......... FUCK Biden..............

You think that is going to stop china?? Pls, you know better than I that most certainly will not...........

trump is a go it alone guy, pretty obvious he isn't interested in a grand coalition against China now isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only other option is war..........

Is your country prepared for that??

For real hard times w/out trade leading up to it for maybe years??

& then another war to end all wars, only this time it might be.........
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Why am I talking about Biden, can you get real? Biden's track record of Chinese appeasement is there for all to Xi (pun intended). The Chinese will buy him off, offer his useless leach of a son another sinecure, or should that be sinocure, and they will have won. You know this already but hate hearing it from a Limey, but that's down to you and your ego I suspect.
 
Grajonca said:
When the Turks chopped six zeroes off the lira you initially could get two lira to the pound it's now just over ten. Property in places like Antalya or Bodrum are dirt cheap now.
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This is really shallow.....you do understand much deeper than this what has gone wrong with Turkey Dontcha?

Usually you are so with it.

Except for Boeing.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This is really shallow.....you do understand much deeper than this what has gone wrong with Turkey Dontcha?

Usually you are so with it.

Except for Boeing.
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Of course but I was showing you just one aspect of Erdogan's catastrophic regime.

Oh and regards Boeing, re-certification of the 737 Max is just around the corner.

Boeing 737 Max Is About To Face Its Most Important Pilot Yet

The head of the Federal Aviation Administration will fly the Boeing 737 Max Wednesday in one of the final steps before the plane can carry passengers again. Boeing (BA) stock fell.

Steve Dickson, who was a commercial airline pilot and an F-15 fighter jet pilot before that, will fly the 737 Max at Boeing's Seattle-area facilities. He flew simulator tests earlier this year.

Dickson, who is also a former Delta Air Lines (DAL) executive, plans to fly the plane in what would be one of the final steps before the FAA clears the Boeing 737 Max to carry passengers again.

Boeing 737 Max Return Process

Global regulators need to give their approval before the Boeing 737 Max can return to service. The FAA, Transport Canada and European Union Aviation Safety Agency have completed recertification flights this summer and are analyzing the data.

EASA said last week that the grounded jet could get the OK in November to start flying again. That would potentially put it back into service by the end of the year.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/aeff0659-7f1f-3bb2-bd5e-d1a1403e557b/boeing-737-max-is-about-to.html
 
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Here is the problem: Almost everything that is happening now in America plays into China's hands....if this was a script written for us by the Chinese to guide us into the Empire the project almost could not have been better done.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Dont embarrass yourself, I dont need you to turn into a disappointment like so many of the rest. .
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There was no malice implied, just wanted to know if you've been there. Bodrum especially is a truly wonderful place and very cosmopolitan, that whole coastline is truly exceptional in scenic terms and culture.
 
Grajonca said:
There was no malice implied, just wanted to know if you've been there. Bodrum especially is a truly wonderful place and very cosmopolitan, that whole coastline is truly exceptional in scenic terms and culture.
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Just yesterday I had to put up with a guy claiming that I cant possibly know anything about China if I have not been to China.

I might possibly be a little twitchy.
 
Grajonca said:
The Turks have always hated the Armenians look at the 1915 Genocide for the evidence of their cruelty. Even now it is illegal to talk about it in Turkey, journalists have been locked up for it! Erdogan is a despot who is running Turkey into the ground.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?mcubz=3
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I think there should be a meeting of NATO & they should be told to stand down... If they refuse they should be asked to leave........

Russia is assisting Armenia, supposedly, why haven't they responded "yet", just talk.....
 
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