China's influence has become so great that it can't now be effectively stopped.

Bill said:
Why not stop trolling & start adding to the conversation??

You to lazy to support your opinions??
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How is it trolling? You made a statement that as far as I can see is based on headlines and nothing else.

OK, let's talk about China.

They have a demographics problem. Remember one family one child? That's about to bite them on the ass. No one wanted a female so the girls were murdered and most families had a boy. Fine...until you realize that boys don't have kids, females do. Their population is about to drop and not just a little bit.

They fucked up their economy. They trained a lot of their citizens in technical fields. The problem is there are so many of them they're not making the money they think they should due to their skilled status...and btw, this is probably the single biggest threat to the CCP, an internal threat not external.

Belt and Road, destined to fail from the beginning. You know why? It's modeled on the old UK mercantile system. The problem with that is China can't colonize the way the UK did back then, the geo-political system has changed and nations have rights now.

Another problem with Belt and Road and the nine-dash line too...India. India can sustain it's population and will dwarf China in about 30 years plus China can't make belt and road work without India leaving them alone...what do you think the odds of that happening are?

One more issue...China can't feed itself. It takes two countries right now deciding to not sell China food...America and Brazil...and China is fucked.
 
Bill said:
I think there should be a meeting of NATO & they should be told to stand down... If they refuse they should be asked to leave........

Russia is assisting Armenia, supposedly, why haven't they responded "yet", just talk.....
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Here is another side to Turkey, not a very attractive one! Contrast that with American feminists moaning about their lot, because they might have to pay a few dollars for contraceptive pills.

Doner kebab chef is jailed 24 years for slicing his daughter into pieces because she came home drunk in Turkey

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...taboola_feed&ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed
 
Bill said:
I think there should be a meeting of NATO & they should be told to stand down... If they refuse they should be asked to leave........

Russia is assisting Armenia, supposedly, why haven't they responded "yet", just talk.....
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what do you mean by "stand down" I sure as hell hope you dont mean meddling in their internal affairs

I've despised Erdogan since he came to power and starting undoing Atatürk progressive modernization of Turkey

But if you want NATO to be effective, then you need Turkey if for no other the geographics.

I'd be more then happy to disband NATO ( NATO expansion has caused great problems) -but that's another topic
 
anatta said:
what do you mean by "stand down" I sure as hell hope you dont mean meddling in their internal affairs

I've despised Erdogan since he came to power and starting undoing Atatürk progressive modernization of Turkey

But if you want NATO to be effective, then you need Turkey if for no other the geographics.

I'd be more then happy to disband NATO ( NATO expansion has caused great problems) -but that's another topic
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Stop their aggression............. They shot down a Russian jet, now they are moving east w/ their aggression......

They are in NATO, so if someone retaliates??

NATO has enough problems w/out allowing the punk turk to create more.......

You think if they didn't have NATO aka Europe & USA backing his ass up he would be doing this?? He would not even have the means to project power......
 
Bill said:
Stop their aggression............. They shot down a Russian jet, now they are moving east w/ their aggression......
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had to look that up -I didn't know about the SU-25 being shot down by Turks F-16

and they did the same back in 2015 ( a Russian jet on the Syrian border) -denied it both times

so yeah. this is a YUGE problem for NATO
 
anatta said:
had to look that up -I didn't know about the SU-25 being shot down by Turks F-16

and they did the same back in 2015 ( a Russian jet on the Syrian border) -denied it both times

so yeah. this is a YUGE problem for NATO
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:thup:
 
anatta said:
had to look that up -I didn't know about the SU-25 being shot down by Turks F-16

and they did the same back in 2015 ( a Russian jet on the Syrian border) -denied it both times

so yeah. this is a YUGE problem for NATO
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It just happened, you had to look it up?
 
Bill said:
I think there should be a meeting of NATO & they should be told to stand down... If they refuse they should be asked to leave........

Russia is assisting Armenia, supposedly, why haven't they responded "yet", just talk.....
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I think you should kill yourself. You're a fucking idiot.
 
Guille said:
I think you should kill yourself. You're a fucking idiot.
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Thanks gullie, that was easier than providing links to your shithead opinions....:dunno:

You going to be just another asshole, you'll be treated as such..............
 
American corporations and the wealthy made China into the powerhouse it is now. They moved our manufacturing and industry there for cheap unprotected labor and no environmental laws. They traded short term profits for making China into a manufacturing center of the world. Most for those who jumped in are retired or dead. They left the problems for the rest of us to figure put.
Our manufacturing processes and equipment, became Chinas. The people who make things are the ones who improve and innovate.
Ivanka and daffy made their crap in China. But they love American workers.
China was practically 3rd world when our companies moved there.
 
Nordberg said:
American corporations and the wealthy made China into the powerhouse it is now. They moved our manufacturing and industry there for cheap unprotected labor and no environmental laws. They traded short term profits for making China into a manufacturing center of the world. Most for those who jumped in are retired or dead. They left the problems for the rest of us to figure put.
Our manufacturing processes and equipment, became Chinas. The people who make things are the ones who improve and innovate.
Ivanka and daffy made their crap in China. But they love American workers.
China was practically 3rd world when our companies moved there.
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:hand: :hand:

Most certainly: Should be more like China-MADE IN AMERICA.. or rather by Americans..... & same could be said about Hong Kong, Taiwan & Japan/SK......

They essentially built the beast now looking to devour them........:palm:
 
Nordberg said:
American corporations and the wealthy made China into the powerhouse it is now. They moved our manufacturing and industry there for cheap unprotected labor and no environmental laws. They traded short term profits for making China into a manufacturing center of the world. Most for those who jumped in are retired or dead. They left the problems for the rest of us to figure put.
Our manufacturing processes and equipment, became Chinas. The people who make things are the ones who improve and innovate.
Ivanka and daffy made their crap in China. But they love American workers.
China was practically 3rd world when our companies moved there.
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They're not a powerhouse, they can't even feed themselves.
 
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