Christian Family Values?

Ripping kids from, parents in america is nothing new. We only gave up extracting cildren from native first nations peoples to send them off for years to "boarding schools" to be raped by adults and have the "Indian" removed from them in the 1970's.

Excellent point. Several of my friends/ instructors have family members who went to boarding school. As you might imagine this issue is causing a lot of angst and anger.
 
Excellent point. Several of my friends/ instructors have family members who went to boarding school. As you might imagine this issue is causing a lot of angst and anger.


America is a schizophrenic society. We bomb the living hell out of other nations for doing what we do.
 
you are making an over-arching statement about populism in general because of 1 bad decision by Trump/Sessions.

we are done with getting illegals marching across the border -largely unskilled labor that takes jobs from existing unskilled Americans.. I swear to gawd I have yet to see anyone but Hispanic roofers down here.

And this isn't a "racist" statement.
It's a fact illegals are taking good jobs from Americans who want to work but have no other marketable skills.
Enough. America First.

Oh don't hand me that crap. It's those who are employing non-citizens who are the real criminals. Want to stop the immigrants from coming here? And BTW thanks to E-Verify illegal immigration has dropped off substantially. Works a hell of a lot better then putting children in concentration camps to win brownie points from the low end of the electorate. Maybe it would be more effective to jail those criminals who are hiring illegal immigrants?

And what kind of a pathetic loser is a citizen of this country that they are competing for jobs with illegal aliens? Do you have any idea the only kind of jobs that are available to them? If you're an American citizen and you're competing at that level well it sucks to be you, cause you're a pathetic loser. Blaming illegals for their inability to develop marketable job skills is derka der non sense.

 
If they are American citizens, they are free to go anywhere in the country to escape their "plight," aren't they?
Well sure but dude...I mean anyone with any human decency what so ever has to feel for the plight of those poor bastards having to escape from michigan!
 
Hello Bigdog,



Sounds exactly backwards.

It is really the right which wants to remove the separation of church and state, and also demands that we officially become a Christian nation. Sessions had to get slapped down for putting the ten commandments on a government building.
He just got slapped down from his own Church. There's a movement within the Methodist Church to have Sessions expelled from the Methodist Church as he angered a lot of his fellow Methodist when he misquoted Romans 13 to rationalize his policy.

I mean his actions are hardly in the spirit of Christ. That's for damned sure.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,



If Trump wants the wall that he promised us he would get the Mexicans to pay for, then HE NEEDS TO GET THE MEXICANS TO PAY FOR THAT WALL.

I don't like being lied to.

I don't understand why Trump supporters accept being lied to.

I know they have no respect for other cultures, but apparently they have no self-respect, either.

What kind of mixed up person accepts being lied to by the person they trust?

If you respect yourself, you do not accept it when people you trust lie to you.

Being lied to by the person you trust should be a warning signal you cannot ignore!!!

Well that's not hard to get your head around. They accept his lies for the same reason anyone accepts any politicians lies. He's telling them what they want to hear instead of the truth.
 
Well sure but dude...I mean anyone with any human decency what so ever has to feel for the plight of those poor bastards having to escape from michigan!

I can't say, I've never visited Michigan.
...and I don't like the Wolverines either!
 
Setting aside the prevention of refugees from entering the US so that can claim asylum as allowed by Law, the breaking up of families has reached a new low that any one calling themselves "christian" should be disgusted by:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8e53a448a14_story.html?utm_term=.2d7b4e5255a4

What do the scriptures say about taking care of your own first and foremost in relation to placing criminals above the righteous? You are less than an "infidel" if you support lawlessness, constant dependence upon handouts when you are healthy and well bodied. Why does it not surprise anyone that a self professed INFIDEL such as yourself:palm: (someone that supports crime, sloth, envy, greed, perversion, godlessness...etc.) finds fault in the virtue of the RULE OF LAW and the Doctrine revealed in the Holy Scriptures? This nation was founded upon the Judeo/Christian philosophy and virtue....as its rule of law is embedded deep upon the virtuous principles contained in the Holy Scriptures. Its nothing new when you enablers of crime on the left find fault with both the US RULE OF LAW and the US CONSTITUTION..... you denounce the principles upon witch it was founded....the Holy Scriptures.

This history actual is easily proven. Blackstones commentaries on the rules of law was the primary source that was used in the framing/drafting of the United States Constitution. Blackstone is historically documented as taking his legal principals directly from the pages of the Holy Scriptures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentaries_on_the_Laws_of_England

https://www.blackstoneinstitute.org/_oldsite/sirwilliamblackstone.html

Truth is a hell of thing when it comes to combating BULL SHIT PROPAGANDA....no? Funny there was no DISCUST or wall to wall coverage when Obama did the exact same thing. You could hear a mouse fart within the ranks of the left.
 
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Well it looks like our conversation just got mooted. The Trump administration caved to over whelming pressure to stop the practice. Good. It was the right decision. Glad to see he can admit he's made a mistake.
 
And what kind of a pathetic loser is a citizen of this country that they are competing for jobs with illegal aliens? Do you have any idea the only kind of jobs that are available to them? If you're an American citizen and you're competing at that level well it sucks to be you, cause you're a pathetic loser. Blaming illegals for their inability to develop marketable job skills is derka der non sense.

Wealthy elite liberals doubling down on their immense hatred of the poor and working class. Disgusting! :palm:
 
Wealthy elite liberals doubling down on their immense hatred of the poor and working class. Disgusting! :palm:
Hey so much for conservative values of being accountable for your own decisions ehh? LOL

Besides, I'm hardly wealthy, at least by US Standards. Upper middle class to be sure and I got there the old fashioned way. I worked my ass off for 6 years to earn a graduate level education and then worked my ass off to learn my profession and make an above average income. I didn't make it by whining about having to compete with illegal immigrants for minimum wage jobs as meat processors, house maids, short order cooks and gardeners.
 
LOL. Funny how people on the left are trying this ploy after pronouncing Christianity dead and declaring it not the basis for public policy re: gays, abortion, or anything else. Either way a True Scotsman fallacy is still a fallacy.

No dumbshit, it’s not a fallacy, it is an argument allowing a contested point arguendo. It takes the form, “setting aside that you are wrong as to minor premise A, and allowing that it is true, your are still wrong because premise B is false also.

Christianity makes some pretty strong claims to values that preclude certain behaviors, it is argued. So if it is a fallacy to drop ourselves down your retarded rabbit hole and point out the plumbing isn’t working inside, that’s not our fallacy, it’s yours.
 
Hey so much for conservative values of being accountable for your own decisions ehh? LOL

Besides, I'm hardly wealthy, at least by US Standards. Upper middle class to be sure and I got there the old fashioned way. I worked my ass off for 6 years to earn a graduate level education and then worked my ass off to learn my profession and make an above average income. I didn't make it by whining about having to compete with illegal immigrants for minimum wage jobs as meat processors, house maids, short order cooks and gardeners.

More demeaning hatred from the Left ... for the "lowest class", ... the poor and blue collar workers. Mott, you are an arrogant class warfare liberal elitist like the rest of the progressives.

Sooo much bigotry. So many false assumptions. :palm:
 
More demeaning hatred from the Left ... for the "lowest class", ... the poor and blue collar workers. Mott, you are an arrogant class warfare liberal elitist like the rest of the progressives.
No. I'm just a garden variety prick. Tough shit if you can't handle ugly facts. It's a cold hard cruel world out there and maybe if you'd learned that earlier in life you'd probably be a little more compassionate.
 
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