Christian Family Values?

Kacper said:
LOL. Funny how people on the left are trying this ploy after pronouncing Christianity dead and declaring it not the basis for public policy re: gays, abortion, or anything else. Either way a True Scotsman fallacy is still a fallacy.
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LOL.

Funny how you make up the generalization that all people on the left have pronounced Christianity dead. When did you come to that conclusion? Or did you merely wish to create your own logical fallacy?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Not really. It’s an example of why most responsible politicians, including the majority of Republicans, view the populism used by Trump to appeal to the lowest classes by demonizing the poor, immigrants, ethnic/racial minorities and foreigners, for popular support as being grossly irresponsible. There is no doubt that appealing to the fears and resentments to the uninformed lower classes is a tried and true, though certainly cynical, political method to gain political support but these are the consequences of such irresponsible political behavior. Real human beings are harmed needlessly.

As if the plight of these immigrants isn’t bad enough. This isn’t enforcement of the law. This is what tyranny looks like.

And don’t think that tyranny can’t be turned against you if it becomes politically expedient to demonize a group you get lumped into.
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Excellent point, Mott.
 
Hello kudzu,

kudzu said:
Well, Trump did say he wanted Americans to respond to him as if he were Kim Yong Un. Somebody needs to remind him daily that he's NOT a king.
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REMIND him? Heck, somebody has to EXPLAIN it to him. He totally doesn't get it.

He has led this pampered life, and looked down on those who he considers inferior, for so long he doesn't know that it is like to be part of the masses. How can he possibly lead those he doesn't respect?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
And the reason why we're in the current unconscienable situation.
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you are making an over-arching statement about populism in general because of 1 bad decision by Trump/Sessions.

we are done with getting illegals marching across the border -largely unskilled labor that takes jobs from existing unskilled Americans.. I swear to gawd I have yet to see anyone but Hispanic roofers down here.

And this isn't a "racist" statement.
It's a fact illegals are taking good jobs from Americans who want to work but have no other marketable skills.
Enough. America First.
 
Hello Getin the ring,

Getin the ring said:
Mott the Hoople: "Not really. It’s an example of why most responsible politicians, including the majority of Republicans, view the populism used by Trump to appeal to the lowest classes by demonizing the poor, immigrants, ethnic/racial minorities and foreigners, for popular support as being grossly irresponsible. There is no doubt that appealing to the fears and resentments to the uninformed lower classes is a tried and true, though certainly cynical, political method to gain political support but these are the consequences of such irresponsible political behavior. Real human beings are harmed needlessly.

As if the plight of these immigrants isn’t bad enough. This isn’t enforcement of the law. This is what tyranny looks like.

And don’t think that tyranny can’t be turned against you if it becomes politically expedient to demonize a group you get lumped into."
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that's a lot of babble for 8 oclock in the morning.

scoreboard check

306 to 225
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I give your response a score of 2 out of 100.

No thought required. Completely lazy.

Has nothing at all to do with Mott's very intellectual post. (and that was very good, Mott.)

You could have made that same response to 99% of the discussions here.

Do you have a file of generic responses you draw from?
 
PoliTalker said:
REMIND him? Heck, somebody has to EXPLAIN it to him. He totally doesn't get it.

He has led this pampered life, and looked down on those who he considers inferior, for so long he doesn't know that it is like to be part of the masses. How can he possibly lead those he doesn't respect?
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Exactly. He sees himself as royalty, but the concept of noblesse oblige is totally foreign to him. The Kennedys, on the other hand, also had their share of issues but even though they were also wealthy and privileged, they understood and practiced the principle.
 
Hello Bigdog,

Bigdog said:
And yet it is the Leftists that are demanding we become a Theocracy, ... that our gov't ignore our laws and replace them with Christian or Islamic theology.
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Sounds exactly backwards.

It is really the right which wants to remove the separation of church and state, and also demands that we officially become a Christian nation. Sessions had to get slapped down for putting the ten commandments on a government building.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

ThatOwlWoman said:
The surest way to make sure that your opposition will reject a bill is to put a poison pill in it. In this case, it's funding for the wall. Then when rejected, you can scream to the morons of your base "See? They don't care about the ___, they just want to play politics!"

If I were a (D) legislator, I would negotiate publicly by saying "Okay, we will endorse the funding for the wall, but we are going to fund it by cutting an equal amount of money from ____ [pet programs of the (R)s like defense budget]."
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If Trump wants the wall that he promised us he would get the Mexicans to pay for, then HE NEEDS TO GET THE MEXICANS TO PAY FOR THAT WALL.

I don't like being lied to.

I don't understand why Trump supporters accept being lied to.

I know they have no respect for other cultures, but apparently they have no self-respect, either.

What kind of mixed up person accepts being lied to by the person they trust?

If you respect yourself, you do not accept it when people you trust lie to you.

Being lied to by the person you trust should be a warning signal you cannot ignore!!!
 
Hello Owl,

ThatOwlWoman said:
Exactly. He sees himself as royalty, but the concept of noblesse oblige is totally foreign to him. The Kennedys, on the other hand, also had their share of issues but even though they were also wealthy and privileged, they understood and practiced the principle.
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Well, they were from such old money they grew up searching for meaning.

Trump grew up searching for any means to get wealth and not get arrested. Going to court? No problem, part of 'the game' for him. Just another tool in the box.
 
Old Trapper said:
Setting aside the prevention of refugees from entering the US so that can claim asylum as allowed by Law, the breaking up of families has reached a new low that any one calling themselves "christian" should be disgusted by:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8e53a448a14_story.html?utm_term=.2d7b4e5255a4
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Ripping kids from, parents in america is nothing new. We only gave up extracting cildren from native first nations peoples to send them off for years to "boarding schools" to be raped by adults and have the "Indian" removed from them in the 1970's.
 
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