civil war is inevitable

Dutch Uncle said:
You two need to round up Moon so you can do your Three Stooges impression.

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Here's an article for you.

https://api.nationalgeographic.com/...ible-ancient-dna-lebanon-genetics-archaeology

Lebanese are about 90% Ancient Canaanite by DNA.

Ashkenazi & Sephardi Jews are obviously far less.

Canaanites & Ancient Hebrews were enemies.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I agree that is wrong for them to do, but there is a process to fixing it.
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that process is broken and has been for decades

Dutch Uncle said:
You quest to commit mass murder of innocent Americans isn't right. It's not just. It's not American to kill other Americans because you are pissed off at Washington politics.
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if you can't, or won't, differentiate between combatants and collateral.................then stand back and enjoy the freedom the rest of us will give you when we're done.
 
Walt said:
The government is the representative of we the people, and made up of we the people. For instance, when the Japanese bombed the government base at Pearl Harbor, we the people went to war.
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I say again, that government exempts itself from the laws and rules you and I must follow and enjoy extra benefits that we'll never have. that's not 'we are the government'. that's just a fight for survival
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I agree that is wrong for them to do, but there is a process to fixing it. You quest to commit mass murder of innocent Americans isn't right. It's not just. It's not American to kill other Americans because you are pissed off at Washington politics.
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I tend to agree. Have no problem with tarring and feathering Politicians though. It would only take a few prominent ones from both sides to send the message.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
every marine should know that there will always be collateral damage in war, right? why do you not know that?
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Of course. Where you have gone wrong is:
1) We are not at war with our own people.
2) Collateral damage is a negative in the overall effectiveness of the mission. The mission is to neutralize the enemy's ability to wage war, not see how many we can piss off and risk losing the war.
3) It's against the rules of war and morality to deliberately target civilians, which is exactly what you've been dancing around in this discussion.
 
Sailor said:
I tend to agree. Have no problem with tarring and feathering Politicians though. It would only take a few prominent ones from both sides to send the message.
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Agreed, but, despite my desires to see Washington politicians tarred and feathered, we're still a nation of laws.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I agree that is wrong for them to do, but there is a process to fixing it. You quest to commit mass murder of innocent Americans isn't right. It's not just. It's not American to kill other Americans because you are pissed off at Washington politics.
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Your grasp at politics are very limited.

Still, better than your grasp of anthropology, genetics & racial differences.

Which you have absolutely no grasp of.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Of course. Where you have gone wrong is:
1) We are not at war with our own people.
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then you're not paying attention

Dutch Uncle said:
2) Collateral damage is a negative in the overall effectiveness of the mission. The mission is to neutralize the enemy's ability to wage war, not see how many we can piss off and risk losing the war.
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it sucks, but it happens...........what happens when a cop shoots an innocent bystander while trying to shoot the bad guy?

Dutch Uncle said:
3) It's against the rules of war and morality to deliberately target civilians, which is exactly what you've been dancing around in this discussion.
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government agents are NOT civilians when they are performing their official government duties.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
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An event that took place almost 30 years ago under a disgraced President. An event that drew strong condemnation against the Bush administration and was probably a factor in his one-term presidency. Dude, you're just looking for excuses to kill Americans. If you do, you and your friends will be treated like McVeigh and his friends by We, the People.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
Both the Weaver family and Harris brought civil suits against the government over the firefight and siege. The Weavers won a combined out-of-court settlement in August 1995 of $3.1 million. After numerous appeals, Harris was awarded a $380,000 settlement in September 2000.

To answer public questions about Ruby Ridge, the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Government Information held hearings between September 6 and October 19, 1995, and subsequently issued a report calling for reforms in federal law enforcement to prevent a repeat of the losses of life at Ruby Ridge and restore public confidence in federal law enforcement.[5] It was noted that the Ruby Ridge incident and the 1993 Waco siege involved many of the same agencies (the FBI HRT and the ATF) and some of the same personnel (the FBI HRT commander). The GAO also conducted a review of federal policies about use of deadly force, publishing it in 1995.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that process is broken and has been for decades

if you can't, or won't, differentiate between combatants and collateral.................then stand back and enjoy the freedom the rest of us will give you when we're done.
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....annnnd, with your great life experience, you've decided to commit mass murder as the solution to these problems.

Dude, if you try to push your fantasies into reality, you'll end up lying dead in the street and your family, if you haven't killed them, will be forced to change their names in shame.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
An event that took place almost 30 years ago under a disgraced President. An event that drew strong condemnation against the Bush administration and was probably a factor in his one-term presidency. Dude, you're just looking for excuses to kill Americans. If you do, you and your friends will be treated like McVeigh and his friends by We, the People.
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the time is coming when good men will have to do bad things.........you shouldn't have let it get this far
 
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