civil war is inevitable

Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed. You are just desperate to justify murdering dozens, if not hundreds of innocent Americans including children.

Yes, I do believe that a government of the people should be the only authority to declare war, not some middle-aged wannabe terrorist.

I support NRA firearms training in schools. I believe every American should have and know how to use firearms to protect themselves both from a tyrannical government and terrorists like you and the Tsarnaev brothers.
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you do not support the constitution. stop lying to me. I see through your sham. you are nothing but a pro government lefty
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yes, I do believe that a government of the people should be the only authority to declare war, not some middle-aged wannabe terrorist.

I believe every American should have and know how to use firearms to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.
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how do you reconcile those two opposite statements? who gets to be the decider in when we have a tyrannical government? I bet you also believe that we the people should store our guns in a government armory so they can re-issue them to us if we decide they are tyrannical, don't you?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
how do you reconcile those two opposite statements? who gets to be the decider in when we have a tyrannical government? I bet you also believe that we the people should store our guns in a government armory so they can re-issue them to us if we decide they are tyrannical, don't you?
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They are not opposite. The decision would be by large mutual consensus of "We, the People". When you regularly see millions of Americans in the streets protesting their government, then it would be time to consider attacking tyrants.**

I support local governments that require citizens to keep firearms in their homes. The only restriction would be using approved means to prevent unauthorized access by minors.

**Pro-Tip: Don't kill a bunch of civilians to satiate your blood lust. Dead kids are not good PR for a revolution. It often results in the opposite effect.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
They are not opposite. The decision would be by large mutual consensus of "We, the People". When you regularly see millions of Americans in the streets protesting their government, then it would be time to consider attacking tyrants.**
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Do you wish that the founding fathers had waited for a majority of the population, that large mutual consensus, to make that decision to wage war with England? where would we be if that large consensus never happened?

Dutch Uncle said:
I support local governments that require citizens to keep firearms in their homes. The only restriction would be using approved means to prevent unauthorized access by minors.
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in other words, you're pro government tyranny and oppression...........you might as well tell us you have no problem with people owning guns for hunting, as long as they are over 18

Dutch Uncle said:
**Pro-Tip: Don't kill a bunch of civilians to satiate your blood lust. Dead kids are not good PR for a revolution. It often results in the opposite effect.
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hyperbole aside............you're not ready to fight for freedom. I WOULD say that maybe you need to experience more tyranny..........but I have a feeling that you're like all the other pro government people around the country......

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Micawber said:
Trump attacks on U.S. military go beyond 'losers,' 'suckers' smears (northjersey.com)

Trump tries to reduce veteran disability benefits. Why not, they are suckers and losers.
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Trump was a Democrat for years. Now everyone can see where he got his anti-military beliefs; the Democratic Party.

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SmarterthanYou said:
Do you wish that the founding fathers had waited for a majority of the population, that large mutual consensus, to make that decision to wage war with England? where would we be if that large consensus never happened?

in other words, you're pro government tyranny and oppression...........you might as well tell us you have no problem with people owning guns for hunting, as long as they are over 18

hyperbole aside............you're not ready to fight for freedom. I WOULD say that maybe you need to experience more tyranny..........but I have a feeling that you're like all the other pro government people around the country......

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Dude, you and your little paintball club can plot murdering thousands of Americans, but I think you'll just end up in a police shootout where you shoot your family and then yourself. Your call.

You are free to label me all you like but here's the only thing people need to know about the two of us: You are advocating truck bombing US buildings and you consider thousands of dead Americans as "collateral damage". I'm against such an action.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Dude, you and your little paintball club can plot murdering thousands of Americans, but I think you'll just end up in a police shootout where you shoot your family and then yourself. Your call.
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I'll just bet that you were a lousy officer as a Marine, since you seem to have so little pride in what Marines can do in combat.......does calling us a 'paintball' club soothe your beliefs in your big pro government ideals?

Dutch Uncle said:
You are free to label me all you like but here's the only thing people need to know about the two of us: You are advocating blowing up US buildings with a truck bomb with any innocent Americans you murder considered "collateral damage". I'm against such an action.
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you need to familiarize yourself with the term 'cognitive dissonance'...........it's very apropos for you and your situation
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I'll just bet that you were a lousy officer as a Marine, since you seem to have so little pride in what Marines can do in combat.......does calling us a 'paintball' club soothe your beliefs in your big pro government ideals?

you need to familiarize yourself with the term 'cognitive dissonance'...........it's very apropos for you and your situation
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Meh. Disclaim all you want but you have over a dozen posts declaring deaths like Timothy McVeigh's truck bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal building to be both justified and the murder of Americans as acceptable collateral damage. You can delete those posts, but you can't delete where people quoted you.

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Dutch Uncle said:
Who do you think would be doing the exterminating, Niblick? Certainly not you. :)
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I'm 74 years old.

If the Joe Sixpack / pickup truck crowd starts to confront legitimate authority, they will be easily dispatched.
They're really not too bright.

It didn't take a civil war for the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, or Czechoslovakia to all partition into smaller nations.
It shouldn't take one here, either.

The seething hatred is too intense for us to survive as a 50-state nation, so it will be either partition or anarchy.
What exists now cannot endure.
The United States of America were an experiment that has ultimately failed.
Trump reaching the White House proved that.
Don't expect to suddenly see peace after he's gone, either.
Neither faction really want that.
 
Walt said:
Well over 95% of the human population are not members of the Democratic Party, so that is a lot of Americans.

Your language usage makes me question your claims to be an American.
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Walt. You have yet to type one intelligent thing on this board. Ever. This is no exception.
 
CharacterAssassin said:
A. No, we're not headed there.
B. His appeal was indeed inadmissable on legal grounds.
C. It is delusional and an dismissal of objective reality to claim that twump ever tried anything that approached domestic prosperity and he is one of the elites.
D. Please be less fucking stupid.
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Afraid he has you there STY.
Frankly I feel sorry for you at this point, though I can understand why you relish the thought.
 
Rune said:
Afraid he has you there STY.
Frankly I feel sorry for you at this point, though I can understand why you relish the thought.
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I really don't know why y'all don't just surrender every firearm you own and prostrate yourself before big government. it's obvious nobody on this forum is courageous enough to fight for freedom. just the scraps from pelosi and mitchs table.....
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I'm 74 years old....
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No shit, Nifty. That was my point. It won't be you, so what are you really saying here, Nifty? "Go kiddies! Kill yourself for my benefit!!!"? Who are you advising to fight this fight of division?

Anyone who has been around divorces in the family or with friends know that they can easily turn nasty. Some areas of the US might go along, but with others it will be either competing National Guards or, whatever is left of the Federal military.

You are old enough to know what happened in Ireland when it was partitioned in 1921. How did that work out for the next 75 years? Why do you think it wouldn't happen with other states? What happens if half a dozen sane states decides to give a little section of SW California in exchange for mutually agreed upon items? The rest of California, including most of their National Guard, might see that as a really cool idea.
 
Sailor said:
Walt said:
Well over 95% of the human population are not members of the Democratic Party, so that is a lot of Americans.

Your language usage makes me question your claims to be an American.
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Walt. You have yet to type one intelligent thing on this board. Ever. This is no exception.
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It's closer to 87%. There's about 329M Americans and about 43M Democrats which equals 87% of Americans are not Democrats.

Walt is pulling your chain about the American thing. ;)
 
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