civil war is inevitable

SmarterthanYou said:
weren't you just telling me that you're not the guy to tell me where the line is at????? and you're still on this whole kick of labeling me a mass murderer of innocent people because i'll accept collateral damage?
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Correct because it is mass murder. You don't believe killing 19 children, much less the other 149 people murdered by your hero McVeigh, is mass murder, but I do. McVeigh deliberately chose to set his bomb off just after rush hour on a weekday to maximize casualites. That is mass murder and you support it.

Like the Nashville bomber, McVeigh could have blown up the building on a weekend or at night but he wanted massive causalities just like you advocate.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Correct because it is mass murder. You don't believe killing 19 children, much less the other 149 people murdered by your hero McVeigh, is mass murder, but I do. McVeigh deliberately chose to set his bomb off just after rush hour on a weekday to maximize casualites. That is mass murder and you support it.

Like the Nashville bomber, McVeigh could have blown up the building on a weekend or at night but he wanted massive causalities just like you advocate.
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now why don't you tell me a good reason why I shouldn't operate under the same ROE that the government does???????
 
SmarterthanYou said:
now why don't you tell me a good reason why I shouldn't operate under the same ROE that the government does???????
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When was it ROE to target kids? Innocent civilians? Non-military targets?

You're the mass murdering wannabe. If you want to blow up a daycare center, I'm sure you can do it.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
When was it ROE to target kids? Innocent civilians? Non-military targets?

You're the mass murdering wannabe. If you want to blow up a daycare center, I'm sure you can do it.
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ruby ridge or waco mean anything to you????? probably not, i'm sure you think they were all white supremacist terrorists as well
 
SmarterthanYou said:
ruby ridge or waco mean anything to you????? probably not, i'm sure you think they were all white supremacist terrorists as well
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Yes. Are you asserting 1) that US law enforcement deliberately targeted children and 2) that it means you can murder children too?

Obviously your answer is yes and yes because that's how you've been rolling for over a year that we've discussed this subject.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yes. Are you asserting 1) that US law enforcement deliberately targeted children and 2) that it means you can murder children too?

Obviously your answer is yes and yes because that's how you've been rolling for over a year that we've discussed this subject.
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is sammy weaver dead? was vicky weaver assassinated by Lon Horiuchi while she was holding a baby? did the ATF violently assault a compound that had over 100 children inside?

here's your problem....you turn a blind eye to leftists in government who 'accidentally' get kids killed, but are ready to hold rightwingers completely accountable for any 'mistakes' that get kids killed...........and you would absolutely do the same with civilians.........any kids killed during a BLM of Antifa riot, you either turn that blind eye again OR you find a way to blame a rightwinger.............

so here's the result..........we civilians will use the same ROE as the government and you can shut your little liberal mouth about it because you would do the same if it was a rightwingers kid.........don't fucking lie about it
 
SmarterthanYou said:
is sammy weaver dead? was vicky weaver assassinated by Lon Horiuchi while she was holding a baby? did the ATF violently assault a compound that had over 100 children inside?

here's your problem....you turn a blind eye to leftists in government who 'accidentally' get kids killed, but are ready to hold rightwingers completely accountable for any 'mistakes' that get kids killed...........and you would absolutely do the same with civilians.........any kids killed during a BLM of Antifa riot, you either turn that blind eye again OR you find a way to blame a rightwinger.............

so here's the result..........we civilians will use the same ROE as the government and you can shut your little liberal mouth about it because you would do the same if it was a rightwingers kid.........don't fucking lie about it
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Dude, you are free to use those examples as justification for you to repeat Timothy McVeigh's murder of 168 Americans including 19 kids. I disagree and believe anyone caught planning such things are terrorists. If they've ever taken the Oath, then they are traitors.

Just like you refuse to understand the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists, you refuse to understand the difference between accidentally killing someone and deliberately targeting to kill as many people as possible.

You are a terrorist-supporter and I have no doubt you associate with terrorists. If you and your friends commit an atrocity this summer, I expect you will all regret the day you were born.
 
Just more asshole traitors the Democrats had to save the nation from


Over and over and over and over and over we have to save you idiot republicans from the idiots you cultivate into stupidity, violence, lies and hate of our nation



Lying us to disastrous wars, repeatedly crashing the economy, fucking the masses and pandering to the Uber wealthy



Fuck you people


And yes we will still save your ungrateful asses next time



We have morals even though you shits think it makes us weak
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Dude, you are free to use those examples as justification for you to repeat Timothy McVeigh's murder of 168 Americans including 19 kids. I disagree and believe anyone caught planning such things are terrorists. If they've ever taken the Oath, then they are traitors.

Just like you refuse to understand the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists, you refuse to understand the difference between accidentally killing someone and deliberately targeting to kill as many people as possible.

You are a terrorist-supporter and I have no doubt you associate with terrorists. If you and your friends commit an atrocity this summer, I expect you will all regret the day you were born.
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translation: I'm a diehard leftist in love with the big government of democrats and if you choose to fight them in any way, you're a traitor...........
 
SmarterthanYou said:
translation: I'm a diehard leftist in love with the big government of democrats and if you choose to fight them in any way, you're a traitor...........
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So when do you and your gang of terrorists plan to murder Americans? What building are you going to blow up this time? Something in Dallas?

Let me know and I'll be there so you can take a shot at me. :thup:
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
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SmarterthanYou said:
as I've stated in the past, mcveigh had great intentions, just really piss poor choice of target
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What target would you have chosen for a truck bomb?
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something more aligned with JUST FBI or ATF agents..........not a building that also housed a bunch of kids
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Name one. You, of most people here, should recognize that bombs are indiscriminate. You set one off and there's no guarantee that only the targeted will die.

Why do you want to kill government employees at all? You used to be one.
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1. collateral damage is the cost of war...........it's inevitable.
2. I never roasted 86 men, women, and children trapped in a compound, nor did I kill a 14 year old boy and his dog over stupid and unconstitutional gun laws..........
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STY justifies mass murder of FBI and ATF personnel.....regardless if they were involved in Waco or not. He just wants to kill Feds like his hero Earl Turner.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
STY justifies mass murder of FBI and ATF personnel.....regardless if they were involved in Waco or not. He just wants to kill Feds like his hero Earl Turner.
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I'm curious, and indulge me please by answering this question, but do you consider ALL people who are anti government as 'WSEs'???? or do you just do that to try and troll?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I'm curious, and indulge me please by answering this question, but do you consider ALL people who are anti government as 'WSEs'???? or do you just do that to try and troll?
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No and no.

Notice your own phraseology; anti-government. Not "our government is too authoritarian" or "Our federal government has too much overreach and the States should push back". Anti-government, like Antifa uses it, is as specific term used by specific people. More telling is when you add terms like "It's broken beyond repair" and killing Americans as "collateral damage".

Only terrorists think in such terms. In your case, due to your fondness of the WSEs like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and Three Percenters, what other conclusion should I come to about you except that you are a faithful supporter if not an actual member?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if you're referring to Asshat, no. I will not be using a pacifist to try and carry a bomb. Bombs are messy and imprecise. I prefer .50 BMG surgical rounds............
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A pacifist doesn't support violence against others but a coward does. Fredo is just a coward wearing a pacifist mask...but he could become a useful idiot to "go park a van under that building....be sure to get your parking validated. LOL"

There is always the "right tool for the job" but also "what tools are available".
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No and no.

Notice your own phraseology; anti-government. Not "our government is too authoritarian" or "Our federal government has too much overreach and the States should push back". Anti-government, like Antifa uses it, is as specific term used by specific people. More telling is when you add terms like "It's broken beyond repair" and killing Americans as "collateral damage".
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I suppose I could do you a solid, once, and say SPECIFICALLY anti THIS government........but intelligent people usually prefer brevity.

Dutch Uncle said:
Only terrorists think in such terms. In your case, due to your fondness of the WSEs like the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and Three Percenters, what other conclusion should I come to about you except that you are a faithful supporter if not an actual member?
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I strongly disagree on all counts. only people who prefer obedience and submission to government call people who advocate freedom as 'terrorists'. I'm not a racist, nor a white supremacist (I am part native American), nor am I associated with the liars and decepticons of the proud boys, oath keepers, and three percenters. They had their chance, they blew it and exposed themselves as far right extremists masquerading as freedom lovers. Not that YOU give a fuck about any of that. As i've stated a few times before, and this will be the last, When they preferred to support the government authorized murderers in minnesota and advocate deadly force against those protesting for fairness and equality, I dropped them. Not that YOU give a fuck about any of that.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/12/thierry-meyssan/civil-war-becomes-inevitable-in-the-usa/

The problem is no longer who was legitimately elected President of the United States, but how long can the civil war be postponed? Far from being a fight between a narcissistic TV presenter and a senile old man, the country is being torn apart over a fundamental cultural issue that has been smouldering since its inception.
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You've been predicting civil war since you first showed up here, almost two decades ago.
 
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