“Climate change has amplified the strength of hurricanes”
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Too complicated for you, was it, Anchovies?
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Nowhere does the text claim that "climate change is a hoax", Anchovies, and you're attacking the source.
If you believe the evidence you saw is incorrect, refute with a verifiable attribution, Anchovies.
Naturally, I'll understand completely if you cannot, Anchovies.
We got hurricanes in NYC?
Laughable when a poster jumps in and has no knowledge of what the thread is about
NEXT
Dutch Uncle
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Just like Legina and his socks! LOL
No, just the opposite, it was exactly 100% what I perfected, proved my point
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No, it didn't, Anchovies. You didn't understand what you read, did you, Anchovies?
Did you read it, Anchovies?
IBDaMann
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You're still as gullible as always. I'd like to be your investment banker.
Warm waters don't fuel storms. Colder air is needed to more greatly fuel storms. Don't play hooky in the next life.
Have you managed to track down an unambiguous definition of the global climate that doesn't violate physics, math or logic? Too funny.
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New York was severely affected by Hurricane Sandy on October 29–30, 2012, particularly New York City, its suburbs, and Long Island.
Sandy's impacts included the flooding of the New York City Subway system, of many suburban communities, and of all road tunnels entering Manhattan except the Lincoln Tunnel.
The New York Stock Exchange closed for two consecutive days.
Numerous homes and businesses were destroyed by fire, including over 100 homes in Breezy Point, Queens.
Large parts of the city and surrounding areas lost electricity for several days.
Several thousand people in midtown Manhattan were evacuated for six days due to a crane collapse at Extell's One57.
Bellevue Hospital Center and a few other large hospitals were closed and evacuated.
Flooding at 140 West Street and another exchange disrupted voice and data communication in lower Manhattan.
At least 43 people died in New York City as a result of the storm, and 53 in the state.
Thousands of homes and an estimated 250,000 vehicles were destroyed during the storm, and the economic losses in New York City were estimated to be roughly $19 billion.
Effects of Hurricane Sandy in New York - Wikipedia
Poor Anchovies.
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Poor Anchovies.
Prior to the adoption of the Saffir-Simpson hurricane wind scale in the early 1970s — which has undergone subsequent revisions — TC intensities were quantified by their minimum barometric pressure (MSLP) just like extratropical cyclones (think nor’easters).
This is because it has long been understood that, generally speaking, the lower the atmospheric pressure, the stronger the storm.
In fact, Knaff and Zehr (2007) found more than a 90% explained variance between MSLP and Vmax using 15-years of TC data from the Atlantic and Pacific.
The mechanics of this are simple. Pressure falls at the core of the cyclone tighten the horizontal pressure gradient between the eye and the ambient environment.
In an attempt to equalize the pressure deficit, air parcels will accelerate toward the storm’s center, thereby increasing the Vmax. The relationship between TC Vmax and MSLP can be approximated by:
One additional advantage to using MSLP as a proxy for TC intensity as opposed to Vmax is that MSLP is a more precise measure.
MSLP is measured by the millibar (mb) or the equivalent hectopascal (hPa), whereas Vmax is estimated in five-knot or five-mile-per-hour increments, which leads to significant of overlap in TC intensity estimates.
It’s also worth noting that the method for approximating Vmax has changed over the last several decades.
Prior to the 1940s, we largely relied on physical in-situ wind speed measurements taken from scattered ground-based station anemometers situated 10 meters above the ground.
Today, TC Vmax is estimated from flight-level dropsonde measurements obtained from NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft reconnaissance missions, which are then reduced by 10% to account for friction).
The scatterplot below shows all Florida hurricane landfall MSLPs since 1900 (the 1851-1899 period was excluded due to low population density in the 19th century).
While the least squares regression line is slightly down, which would indicate that hurricanes are landfalling at higher intensity, the coefficient of determination (R2 value) is a measly 0.016, which means it doesn’t pass the statistical significance test.
In other words, there is no compelling evidence that hurricanes are striking Florida with greater ferocity.
Why I refer to it as opportunity costs, they are too high for future generations to risk it
And sure political points are involved, mostly in defense of status quo, why I refer to all the supposed “proofs” coming from nowhereville, which if you dig deeply, you’ll find often energy interests behind them, all part of a scheme to introduce a false paradigm
And not to sound repetitive, but the opportunities cost is too high
We now get lied to constantly.....any change might be due to whatever is being pumped into the atmosphere in the climate engineering programs being done without our consent.
If you dont think our so called leaders would harm us, lying all the way down the trail, just look at COVID.
If you dont think our so called leaders would harm us, lying all the way down the trail, just look at COVID.
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I suspect Anchovies must not have been in NYC when Hurricane Sandy hit, since he appears to be ignorant of its existence.
Perhaps he lives in "Nowheresville".
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I already did with the NASA link, Legina. Did most of your brains go with your balls when Damo took them???
Post #5, you fucking moron. Why are you asking @archives questions that have already been answered?
Pretty funny, “copy and paste” thinks Sandy has anything to do with the threadPoor Anchovies.
Prior to the adoption of the Saffir-Simpson hurricane wind scale in the early 1970s — which has undergone subsequent revisions — TC intensities were quantified by their minimum barometric pressure (MSLP) just like extratropical cyclones (think nor’easters).
This is because it has long been understood that, generally speaking, the lower the atmospheric pressure, the stronger the storm.
In fact, Knaff and Zehr (2007) found more than a 90% explained variance between MSLP and Vmax using 15-years of TC data from the Atlantic and Pacific.
The mechanics of this are simple. Pressure falls at the core of the cyclone tighten the horizontal pressure gradient between the eye and the ambient environment.
In an attempt to equalize the pressure deficit, air parcels will accelerate toward the storm’s center, thereby increasing the Vmax. The relationship between TC Vmax and MSLP can be approximated by:
One additional advantage to using MSLP as a proxy for TC intensity as opposed to Vmax is that MSLP is a more precise measure.
MSLP is measured by the millibar (mb) or the equivalent hectopascal (hPa), whereas Vmax is estimated in five-knot or five-mile-per-hour increments, which leads to significant of overlap in TC intensity estimates.
It’s also worth noting that the method for approximating Vmax has changed over the last several decades.
Prior to the 1940s, we largely relied on physical in-situ wind speed measurements taken from scattered ground-based station anemometers situated 10 meters above the ground.
Today, TC Vmax is estimated from flight-level dropsonde measurements obtained from NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft reconnaissance missions, which are then reduced by 10% to account for friction).
The scatterplot below shows all Florida hurricane landfall MSLPs since 1900 (the 1851-1899 period was excluded due to low population density in the 19th century).
While the least squares regression line is slightly down, which would indicate that hurricanes are landfalling at higher intensity, the coefficient of determination (R2 value) is a measly 0.016, which means it doesn’t pass the statistical significance test.
In other words, there is no compelling evidence that hurricanes are striking Florida with greater ferocity.
And he keeps regurgitating the same nowhereville “proof” likes it means something, appears he missed the point, shocker
Here, I’ll give an authority’s view and it ain’t another nowhereville’s opinion
Climate Change - NASA Science
NASA is a global leader in studying Earth’s changing climate.
science.nasa.gov
cawacko
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I readily admit that when getting into the weeds on climate issues I'm out of my element. But I will say one of the books I really enjoyed was by Steven Koonin called Unsettled?. He was in the Obama Administration and he's not a denier that man plays a role in climate change but it was eye opening in him showing how the media manipulates the headlines and data that gets reported.
I read the reviews of the book because I wanted to see what those disagreeing said and it has the usual complaints. But his viewpoint was the emergency that justifies basically any money spent on climate change is worth it is not necessarily the case.
And what exactly does Sandy have to do with increased Hurricane intensity due to climate change?
So, to reverse the argument, what is the opportunity cost of not addressing climate change?
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This you, Anchovies?
Are you telling me you didn't know that you "got hurricanes in NYC", Anchovies?