Commentary: Enough is Enough - OPEN THREAD

Dutch Uncle said:
Which is about as far as I got in HS. In college, I had TI LED calculators.
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My bf in h.s. worked the whole summer between graduation and college to earn the $100 it cost to buy his first calculator, also a TI. You can get a very similar one now for under $10. He majored in electrical engineering so the calculator was a must, but he had a slide rule that he knew how to use, too.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
LOL Who here, besides me, still has a slide rule and knows how to use it???

My grandkids aren't being taught cursive. Now Grandma and me have a secret code to share notes. :laugh:
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Be careful. They just might learn one day. :eek:

Sometimes when my deaf friends and I are at a restaurant and sometimes we would make fun of someone at the restaurant. Then all of sudden that person said he/she knows sign language. :laugh:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
LOL

American patriots in the FBI, NSA and State LEO's are already "sniffing around" and collecting evidence. What they lack is probable cause to dig deeper or make arrests. That will change after a terrorist attack much like after the Insurrection.

Here's how it usually works:

Domestic terrorists attack and murder Americans.

The lives of the dead/captured terrorist are thoroughly investigated. It's found that they communicated with several unknown person's using phrases like "the surprise party", "the party", "party favors" and the like. Looking backwards, all the phrases correlate to the terrorist attack.

Previously stored data from forums and, especially, social media is examined for the phrases and correlations to the attack.

Any connections now become probable cause to investigate, arrest or surveil the suspects.
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you mean the traitorous globalist shill cucks are violating rights and manufacturing evidence.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
They'll be caught, hopefully *before* StupiderThanEveryone's "party" commences. He's one of the toothless morons we discussed previously. Those who are really plotting and planning don't go bragging about it on a public forum like this. They know that all it takes for detection is someone armed with #PatriotHashtags that are used to alert the authorities.
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It varies. As the events leading up to the Insurrection proved, there are several hundred of these militia members. Maybe thousands. Not all are terrorists, but the top dogs in the Proud Boys, Boogaloo Bois and Three Percenters are proven terrorist supporters.

Some of the dumber ones have been caught already, but all it takes is a handful of smarter ones, with some money, to pull off a major terrorist attack as their hero McVeigh proved.

I think STY is deluded and an anti-American terrorist supporter but I do not believe he's stupid......

OTOH, I think we can both agree he isn't smarter than you....or many others on this forum. :)
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
My bf in h.s. worked the whole summer between graduation and college to earn the $100 it cost to buy his first calculator, also a TI. You can get a very similar one now for under $10. He majored in electrical engineering so the calculator was a must, but he had a slide rule that he knew how to use, too.
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I remember all the HS kids being envious of the first guy, one of our smartest, who had a calculator. We had juvenile fun calculating things like "How many cigarette butts to fill up the Moon" or how long it would take to travel around the Earth's equator at walking speed.
 
AProudLefty said:
Be careful. They just might learn one day. :eek:

Sometimes when my deaf friends and I are at a restaurant and sometimes we would make fun of someone at the restaurant. Then all of sudden that person said he/she knows sign language. :laugh:
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It's not even being taught in schools. I doubt they'd waste time learning cursive when they can be playing on their PEDs instead.

I'd run into that in Miami and Texas; Spanish speakers who didn't know the blue-eyed, blonde haired "gringo" next to them spoke Spanish as a first language or was bilingual. LOL

Usually never a problem but sometimes a little embarrassing. Usually smarter to ask the room "¿Habla español?" first before going on a rant. ;)

In this case, I'd test the kids first.
 
AProudLefty said:
Not just them but the PARENTS and TEACHERS.

Also the Fundy churches are to be blamed too. So many factors. Like you said, we don't see that @#$& in Japan.
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I usually don’t groan posts but I groaned this one…then took it away because I try not to groan posts. But this one deserves a big one. “Fundy church” people around here are the most educated people here. I get that they aren’t everywhere but they are here.

In the congregation where I preach about 70% of the people have college degrees. At the Baptist church across the road about 50-60 percent have degrees. And they are among our school’s biggest supporters causing the fewest problems for our administration and board…with the exception of one family. And their “religion” has nothing to do with the problems they create. More like them not living up to it.
 
leaningright said:
I usually don’t groan posts but I groaned this one…then took it away because I try not to groan posts. But this one deserves a big one. “Fundy church” people around here are the most educated people here. I get that they aren’t everywhere but they are here.

In the congregation where I preach about 70% of the people have college degrees. At the Baptist church across the road about 50-60 percent have degrees. And they are among our school’s biggest supporters causing the fewest problems for our administration and board…with the exception of one family. And their “religion” has nothing to do with the problems they create. More like them not living up to it.
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Then it isn't a "Fundy church". We are talking about the likes of Oral Roberts, Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell and so on. They teach that it's "us vs. them sinners". That paves the way to poor education for children.

I guess I should have explained what a "fundy" is more clearly.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
What's the solution?
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Segregation early on. Kids that are ready to move on need to be allowed to move on. If a kid doesn’t learn his multiplication facts in 3rd grade he has to be held back, at least mathematically, while his classmates who have learned them move on. You cannot learn math well enough to compete with the rest of the world without learning certain basic concepts. You have to know how to multiply (and divide and factor and all that goes with it) to know how to work fractions. You have to know how fractions work, and be able to do operations with them to do more advanced algebra. You have to know how to do algebra to do calculus. Segregation according to ability and desire along the way is necessary.

I also believe that courses like Consumer Mathematics and General Business need to be back in the curriculum past 8th grade. Right now it is as though the powers above think a kid learns all he need to learn to run a household by 7th grade and our curriculum ceases teaching basic concepts like percents, interest, etc. They might have been taught those basic concepts by then but most of them aren’t mature enough to retain it or see the need for it’s use. It needs to be at least offered to older students be re-enforced. And I don’t want to hear that it needs “rigor greater than or equal to Algebra I.” That’s bogus. Teach them at an appropriate age how to set a budget, how to know how basic interest works, even some basics about investments. That doesn’t take Algebra I level ability or rigor.

Liberals need to be OK that everyone isn’t going to be a math major. They have to be OK with early segregation without social promotion.

Conservatives have to be OK with funding education to the levels it should be funded. I get it…education is usually the biggest chunk out of a state’s budget. But if our kids aren’t educated, most will never find their way out of poverty and the trap that is generational welfare/government assistance.

There’s more, but that’s my start. Until we do some of the very basic things we’ll never be competitive mathematically with most of the rest of the world.
 
leaningright said:
Not any time soon but if you want to be as successful as they are you are going to have to adopt some of their ways?
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nope. that's neocon fascist nonsense.
we should keep dictatorships out of global trade, to avoid the internationalist fascist race to the bottom.

of course encourage you kids to do good math, tho.

it's not math skills than have elevated china; human slavery and internationalist fascist lies have.
 
leaningright said:
Segregation early on. Kids that are ready to move on need to be allowed to move on. If a kid doesn’t learn his multiplication facts in 3rd grade he has to be held back, at least mathematically, while his classmates who have learned them move on. You cannot learn math well enough to compete with the rest of the world without learning certain basic concepts. You have to know how to multiply (and divide and factor and all that goes with it) to know how to work fractions. You have to know how fractions work, and be able to do operations with them to do more advanced algebra. You have to know how to do algebra to do calculus. Segregation according to ability and desire along the way is necessary.

I also believe that courses like Consumer Mathematics and General Business need to be back in the curriculum past 8th grade. Right now it is as though the powers above think a kid learns all he need to learn to run a household by 7th grade and our curriculum ceases teaching basic concepts like percents, interest, etc. They might have been taught those basic concepts by then but most of them aren’t mature enough to retain it or see the need for it’s use. It needs to be at least offered to older students be re-enforced. And I don’t want to hear that it needs “rigor greater than or equal to Algebra I.” That’s bogus. Teach them at an appropriate age how to set a budget, how to know how basic interest works, even some basics about investments. That doesn’t take Algebra I level ability or rigor.

Liberals need to be OK that everyone isn’t going to be a math major. They have to be OK with early segregation without social promotion.

Conservatives have to be OK with funding education to the levels it should be funded. I get it…education is usually the biggest chunk out of a state’s budget. But if our kids aren’t educated, most will never find their way out of poverty and the trap that is generational welfare/government assistance.

There’s more, but that’s my start. Until we do some of the very basic things we’ll never be competitive mathematically with most of the rest of the world.
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Thanks for the detailed and thought-out comments.

In 2015, education was, indeed, the biggest Texas budget item at 37.5%, of which 24.2% is K-12. Notice that's not the same in Louisiana and a few others states:
https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_state_budget_and_finances

While I agree with the vast majority of your post, you are treading on dangerous ground when you advocate letting education experts set the curriculum and not the HS dropout parents. LOL

Keys to a better educational system, IMO, includes fair testing, national standards and more equitable funding for schools. Only about 8% of school funding is Federal, the rest is State.

Agreed 100%: poorly educated kids become poorly educated adults and often become financial liabilities instead of financial assets.
 
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