Condi Rice for VP?

blackascoal said:
I'm not picking on you brother
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You couldn't if you tried....And you are not my brother...My brother would never call himself a socialist.

but you keep making these asinine statements that kinda' make you look stupid.
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that's it? that is all you got....pretty weak man.

Obama has gotten more money from Wall Street than ANY presidential candidate in the history of American politics.
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why just yesterday in another thread in here, liberals were making the argument that Romney was the rich, wall st. candidate...You can't have it both ways dude.

Question: Are you of the opinion that Wall Street is in the habit of pouring money on a socialist?
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If the Bankers, and Wall St. investors thought that there was gain to be made, they sure would...they are about the greenback, not the ideology....Turns out with the bailouts they were right eh?

ONLY the stupid would say yes .. or suggest that Obama is a socialist.
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Why's that? Are we not to believe Obama's own words? Read his book 'Dreams of my Father'.... Mentors like Frank Marshall Davis, heros throughout that survived on the socialist sub culture of America for decades? See you seem to want America to not believe their lyin' ears, and eyes....See, this is why the lie of Socialism fails, you are transparent, and have nothing new in your style. Heard it all before....
 
j-mac said:
Just as I thought, you have nothing but your own narcissistic self proclamations, and manipulation of history. You are indeed entitled to your own opinion, but NOT to your own facts based on little more than your say so.



Just having some fun....nothing too inflammatory in that...If you have a sense of humor that is.



As well you shouldn't.



I haven't seen too much of that in here.



What an empty gesture...I have no trust that you would actually pay up, but beyond that like I said, you should be giving that surplus to the masses, or don't you even believe in your own tenants of your ideology?
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:chicken:

I'll wire my $500. to the admins here.

BAWK BAWK BAWK

:0)

I changed my mind .. I'm up for a good pissing match.
 
Howey said:
His party's* selection of the unvetted Palin lost them the election. It also ran off moderate republicans and independents in droves but brought in crazy teabaggers and fundamentalists changing the once Grand ol Party forever.
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I don't think anyone believes McCain would have gotten MORE votes without Palin.....
 
Dixie said:
First of all, NO ...the President DIDN'T LIE! There was nothing immoral or illegal about the war in Iraq, that is a MEME. Was it a "wise move?" That's a topic open for debate, but hyper-sensationalizing has no place in reasoned debate. Don't speak to me about the cost of the war... your president has spent more taxpayer money playing golf and taking the family on vacations, than the entire war cost. And what was Iraq for? How about, so that 50 million people have the chance to experience FREEDOM for the first time in history? I know that doesn't mean much to a spoiled little twit who's always had everything he wanted in life, but to people who have lived under the oppression of one of the most brutal dictators of modern time, it's a big fucking deal! (to quote a certain bumbling idiot VP)

Obama is dead on WRONG on the economic front, demonstrated by the shitty economy we have, after pumping 3X the cost of the Iraq war, into the economy through Keynesian policy. THAT is what has FAILED, and the people realize it now. It is YOUR president who LIED to the American people, and took us into an unjust war on Capitalism, which has cost us TRILLIONS. And if you are SO stupid as to believe a president can do anything about outsourcing and trade with China, then I suppose that's why they have a Jackass on the ballot.
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Well if he ddidn't lie he was incompetent...wich is even worse!
 
It [Sarah Palin] also ran off moderate republicans and independents in droves but brought in crazy teabaggers and fundamentalists.
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LOL... So, when Bush garnered unprecedented support from the religious right and evangelicals, that never actually happened? And Sarah Palin "brought in crazy Tea Partiers" who didn't actually emerge until 2009, after the election? No wonder they lost!
 
j-mac said:
Always the same song with liberals....gotta be more like them to be elected...Which is utter BS btw.
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Always the same with wingnuts like you. You don't comprehend or understand the issues involved so it's easier to marginalize people who don't agree with you and parrot what ever Rush tells you than it is to think. Which is utterly boring. Not to mention wrong.
 
blackascoal said:
You're mistaken. Rice is not a "politician" .. she's never been elected to office for anything.

Additionally, Romney won't even take pictures with Bush-era Cabinet members. He admonishes Obama for even talking about Bush .. why would he give the country another reason to?

A clearer understanding of American politics demonstrates that the "Rice for VP" notion is nothing but a mindfuck.

Romney's VP choice will NOT be anything but another white guy. How is this unknown?
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Oh I don't know about that. I can see Romney picking a white woman like Fiorina or Whitman both of whom are former CEO's and probably share many of his views.
 
blackascoal said:
Don't be an idiot on purpose.

I don't support Rice and I don't support Obama .. neither of which has anything to do with the FACT that Romney's choice will be another white guy.

So much for your bullshit concern about race.
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BAC, J-Mac is a wingnut. He's completely ignorant on the issues so it's all about identity politics, wedge issues and demonizing others cause, as with most uninformed wingnuts, he's deathly afraid of anything different or that which he does not understand or both. You won't see him addressing, in any meaningul way, the substance or details of any issues. He'll just spout the Goebeleque propaganda he's been fed. You see, that's far easier than thinking for him.
 
Dixie said:
Where is capitalism failing?
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Well it certainly failed on Wall Street in 2008. That's the problem with laissez-faire Capitalism. It's unstable with it's boom and bust cycles with generally a handful profiting during booms and everyone else pitched into dire straights during bust cycles. Though I do believe Capitalism has an advantage of socialism because it is proven to work I'm no fan of the laissez-faire type as it doesn't work either. Capitalism needs to be regulated to limit it's worst abuses (which are indeed terrible) and to make business opportunities transparent and fair to all. Other wise you end up with Gordon Gecko running the show and everyone else in poverty. This is why I"m a Keyensian.
 
j-mac said:
And what are your creds? Your bona fides? You talk a good game, but somehow I don't think super intellects are on internet message boards pondering the issues of the day with truck drivers like me....

So, you can tell yourself anything, all I see is a terribly misguided man.
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Gee the misguided vs the incrediby uninformed. I wonder who will win that debate? :rolleyes:
 
Derp Derp said:
BAC, J-Mac is a wingnut. He's completely ignorant on the issues so it's all about identity politics, wedge issues and demonizing others cause, as with most uninformed wingnuts, he's deathly afraid of anything different or that which he does not understand or both. You won't see him addressing, in any meaningul way, the substance or details of any issues. He'll just spout the Goebeleque propaganda he's been fed. You see, that's far easier than thinking for him.
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It's primarily wingnuts of the left who are all about identity politics, and I'm just going to hazard a guess that Mac is of the right...
 
blackascoal said:
I'm not picking on you brother .. but you keep making these asinine statements that kinda' make you look stupid.

Obama has gotten more money from Wall Street than ANY presidential candidate in the history of American politics.

Question: Are you of the opinion that Wall Street is in the habit of pouring money on a socialist?

ONLY the stupid would say yes .. or suggest that Obama is a socialist.
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Give him a break BAC. He doesn't even know what socialism is. To him socialism is whatever government policy Rush and Fox News say it is.
 
Derp Derp said:
Well it certainly failed on Wall Street in 2008. That's the problem with laissez-faire Capitalism. It's unstable with it's boom and bust cycles with generally a handful profiting during booms and everyone else pitched into dire straights during bust cycles. Though I do believe Capitalism has an advantage of socialism because it is proven to work I'm no fan of the laissez-faire type as it doesn't work either. Capitalism needs to be regulated to limit it's worst abuses (which are indeed terrible) and to make business opportunities transparent and fair to all. Other wise you end up with Gordon Gecko running the show and everyone else in poverty. This is why I"m a Keyensian.
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No, capitalism did not fail. Things did happen to cause the market to collapse, but they had nothing to do with capitalism. If anything, they had MUCH more to do with governmental regulations and mandates ON capitalism.

Again.... Gordon Gecko is a fictional character created by Hollywood liberals, and has no basis in reality. It's a concocted story based on Liberal Socialist memes, and has as much to do with truth as you have with being objective.

And if you can call yourself a Keynesian after witnessing what 4 years of Keynesian policy has done, you are an IDIOT.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
it was hard to tell, since what you claimed wasn't actually a fact.....
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If you don't believe approximately 25% of the population don't oppose Obama because of race you are either incredibly niave or need to get out more often. I come from the rural midwest and have a lot of friends out there and I visit often and they don't spare my feelings about what they think about Obama.
 
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