Condi Rice for VP?

You sir are a child.

Please stop pming me.

What the fuck are you talking about.
I PMd you and we had an exchange of information.

You were the one who then got all butt hurt and sent me a chastizing PM, to which I responded.

Have I sent you any other ones, or should I say ones that can be verified and aren't part of your self inflcted delusions; because you seem to be trying to make it look like I've been sending you a great deal of them?
 
Did you somehow miss my question?

I'll repeat it.

Why should African-Americans support an essentially all-white political party?

Why did blacks want to go to an all-white school? Why did they want to jump into an all-white pool, or live in an all-white neighborhood? Maybe they'd want to join an all-white political party for the same reasons? Maybe they're tired of being led around by the nose ring, taken for granted, having to settle for no other option, except to just go vote for their black-people party again?

How many years have blacks supported the Democrats? What do you have to show for it? Have the Democrats changed the conditions for blacks? Are black people better off because of Democrat policies and programs? I think a better question is, how long are blacks going to support a white-liberal party, where they are fully expected to sit at the back of the bus?
 
Well, we can always sit and do nothing about our public schools. This has no impact on me, being a white, suburban male. This tends to be my reaction the situation. Why fight for people's quality of education when it's such a hassle, and the Dems can keep everything locked-up the way it is, with no end in sight?

I agree 100%. Like the Maobama's, I can afford to keep my children out of horrendous public schools. It is sad that so many colored children are trapped in poorly performing schools. Unfortunately as long as they vote overwhelmingly for the same democrats that enslave they essentially deserve what they get.
 
I agree 100%. Like the Maobama's, I can afford to keep my children out of horrendous public schools. It is sad that so many colored children are trapped in poorly performing schools. Unfortunately as long as they vote overwhelmingly for the same democrats that enslave they essentially deserve what they get.


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So the rich get their subsidy to send their kids to a top tier private school and the rest of us have to settle to sending our kids to those second tier schools.

what are you talking about......who gives the rich a subsidy to send their kids to private schools.....did you even read what I posted?.......
 
what are you talking about......who gives the rich a subsidy to send their kids to private schools.....did you even read what I posted?.......

He's talking about why we can't do 'vouchers'. It would give rich people a subsidy to send their kids to top-tier private schools while the rest of us would have to settle for second-tier private schools... therefore, it's better that rich people send their kids to top-tier private schools and we all go to public school. ...I think that is the point he was trying to make, but who knows with Zapped?
 
Surely you're armed with all kinds of information that demonstrates that republicans represent all races .. but you aren't .. because they don't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

The Republican Party is one of the two major political parties in the United States, along with the Democratic Party. Founded by anti-slavery activists in 1854.

...So here is evidence the party itself was founded specifically by people representing who, BAC? White supremacists?

Founded in the Northern states in 1854 by anti-slavery activists, modernizers, ex-Whigs and ex-Free Soilers, the Republican Party quickly became the principal opposition to the dominant Southern Democratic Party and the briefly popular Know Nothing Party. (hmm.. I think are today's Liberals) The main cause was opposition to the Kansas–Nebraska Act, which repealed the Missouri Compromise by which slavery was kept out of Kansas. The Northern Republicans saw the expansion of slavery as a great evil. The first public meeting where the name "Republican" was suggested for a new anti-slavery party was held on March 20, 1854 in a schoolhouse in Ripon, Wisconsin.

Early Republican ideology was reflected in the 1856 slogan "free labor, free land, free men", which had been coined by Salmon P. Chase, a Senator from Ohio(and future Secretary of the Treasury and Chief Justice of the United States). "Free labor" referred to the Republican opposition to slave labor and belief in independent artisans and businessmen. "Free land" referred to Republican opposition to plantation system whereby the rich could buy up all the good farm land and work it with slaves, leaving the yeoman independent farmers the leftovers. The Party strived to contain the expansion of slavery, which would cause the collapse of the slave power and the expansion of freedom.

Again... doesn't sound like rich white men trying to keep a brother down.

The party's founding members chose the name "Republican Party" in the mid-1850s as homage to the values of republicanism promoted by Thomas Jefferson's Republican party. The idea for the name came from an editorial by the party's leading publicist Horace Greeley, who called for, "some simple name like 'Republican' [that] would more fitly designate those who had united to restore the Union to its true mission of champion and promulgator of Liberty rather than propagandist of slavery." The name reflects the 1776 republican values of civic virtue and opposition to aristocracy and corruption.

Still not seeing the racist bigotry you promised, BAC.

Republicans emphasize the role of free markets and individual achievement as the primary factors behind economic prosperity. To this end, they favor laissez-faire economics, fiscal conservatism, and the promotion of personal responsibility over welfare programs.

Wow... shouldn't they be mentioning how Republicans don't believe this for black people? Still not seeing it, BAC!

Social policies: They are generally against affirmative action for women and some minorities, often describing it as a quota system, believing that it is not meritocratic and that is counter-productive socially by only further promoting discrimination. Many Republicans support race-neutral admissions policies in universities but support taking into account the socioeconomic status of the student.

Again... NOT a "racist" policy, and indeed, the OPPOSITE.

Well BAC, there's the evidence, the foundation and purpose of the party itself, the history of what the party has stood for, and continues to stand for. We contrast this with the complete LACK of evidence on your part, to support your bogus claim. Refute, debate, deny... doesn't matter BAC, this is something you are just plain WRONG about.
 
What the fuck are you talking about.
I PMd you and we had an exchange of information.

You were the one who then got all butt hurt and sent me a chastizing PM, to which I responded.

Have I sent you any other ones, or should I say ones that can be verified and aren't part of your self inflcted delusions; because you seem to be trying to make it look like I've been sending you a great deal of them?

:0) I count three pm's that you sent asking me questions. I was cordial and responded civily.

Now I want you to never send another. It's real simple.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

The Republican Party is one of the two major political parties in the United States, along with the Democratic Party. Founded by anti-slavery activists in 1854.

...So here is evidence the party itself was founded specifically by people representing who, BAC? White supremacists?

Founded in the Northern states in 1854 by anti-slavery activists, modernizers, ex-Whigs and ex-Free Soilers, the Republican Party quickly became the principal opposition to the dominant Southern Democratic Party and the briefly popular Know Nothing Party. (hmm.. I think are today's Liberals) The main cause was opposition to the Kansas–Nebraska Act, which repealed the Missouri Compromise by which slavery was kept out of Kansas. The Northern Republicans saw the expansion of slavery as a great evil. The first public meeting where the name "Republican" was suggested for a new anti-slavery party was held on March 20, 1854 in a schoolhouse in Ripon, Wisconsin.

Early Republican ideology was reflected in the 1856 slogan "free labor, free land, free men", which had been coined by Salmon P. Chase, a Senator from Ohio(and future Secretary of the Treasury and Chief Justice of the United States). "Free labor" referred to the Republican opposition to slave labor and belief in independent artisans and businessmen. "Free land" referred to Republican opposition to plantation system whereby the rich could buy up all the good farm land and work it with slaves, leaving the yeoman independent farmers the leftovers. The Party strived to contain the expansion of slavery, which would cause the collapse of the slave power and the expansion of freedom.

Again... doesn't sound like rich white men trying to keep a brother down.

The party's founding members chose the name "Republican Party" in the mid-1850s as homage to the values of republicanism promoted by Thomas Jefferson's Republican party. The idea for the name came from an editorial by the party's leading publicist Horace Greeley, who called for, "some simple name like 'Republican' [that] would more fitly designate those who had united to restore the Union to its true mission of champion and promulgator of Liberty rather than propagandist of slavery." The name reflects the 1776 republican values of civic virtue and opposition to aristocracy and corruption.

Still not seeing the racist bigotry you promised, BAC.

Republicans emphasize the role of free markets and individual achievement as the primary factors behind economic prosperity. To this end, they favor laissez-faire economics, fiscal conservatism, and the promotion of personal responsibility over welfare programs.

Wow... shouldn't they be mentioning how Republicans don't believe this for black people? Still not seeing it, BAC!

Social policies: They are generally against affirmative action for women and some minorities, often describing it as a quota system, believing that it is not meritocratic and that is counter-productive socially by only further promoting discrimination. Many Republicans support race-neutral admissions policies in universities but support taking into account the socioeconomic status of the student.

Again... NOT a "racist" policy, and indeed, the OPPOSITE.

Well BAC, there's the evidence, the foundation and purpose of the party itself, the history of what the party has stood for, and continues to stand for. We contrast this with the complete LACK of evidence on your part, to support your bogus claim. Refute, debate, deny... doesn't matter BAC, this is something you are just plain WRONG about.

:0) Bravo for the attempt .. but you're still woefully lacking in evidence.

Let me give you even more background .. at one time almost all African-American voters were republicans. And, during Reconstruction, Black republicans were elected to office throughout the south.

Even more background .. Conservative Republican Senator Everett Dirksen is one of my civil rights heros .. and if we were talking about pre-1970 history, all this would be relevant. That history is not relevant to why any African-American should vote for your all-white party today.

Your all-white party today is nothing like the anti-slavery party of it's past. Your all-white party today stands in opposition to African-Americans and nothing could be more obvious.

Go take a look at republicans in Congress today .. then come back and try again to explain why blacks should support your all-white party.
 
BAC I just gave you a history of the party, and the principles on which the Republican philosophy are founded, and they quite simply are NOT racist, but are IN FACT the opposite. You claiming that "today's republican" is somehow different, doesn't prove anything you've said. You asking me to "go look at today's republican in Congress" doesn't prove your point or make an argument for it. What you are basically saying is; You reject the facts, and want to believe something else, and therefore, you will. I don't have an arrow in my quiver to argue with that.
 
BAC I just gave you a history of the party, and the principles on which the Republican philosophy are founded, and they quite simply are NOT racist, but are IN FACT the opposite. You claiming that "today's republican" is somehow different, doesn't prove anything you've said. You asking me to "go look at today's republican in Congress" doesn't prove your point or make an argument for it. What you are basically saying is; You reject the facts, and want to believe something else, and therefore, you will. I don't have an arrow in my quiver to argue with that.


Pssst...Hey, Dicksee?

yeah, I know you're looking. :)

Didja know that the racists of the Democratic Party became Republicans after the Civil Rights Act was passed?
 
BAC I just gave you a history of the party, and the principles on which the Republican philosophy are founded, and they quite simply are NOT racist, but are IN FACT the opposite. You claiming that "today's republican" is somehow different, doesn't prove anything you've said. You asking me to "go look at today's republican in Congress" doesn't prove your point or make an argument for it. What you are basically saying is; You reject the facts, and want to believe something else, and therefore, you will. I don't have an arrow in my quiver to argue with that.

I not only acknowledged the facts you posted .. I added to them.

What you don't want to acknowledge is that those facts have absolutely ZERO to do with the Republican Party today.

Did you somehow forget about Nixon's Southern Strategy?

Do you think black people forgot about it?

Here is the really simple task that you cannot do .. demonstrate why any black people should vote for your all-white party .. which alone defines why we should not.

My point is not that you need black people in your all-white party. Feel free to reject anybody you want.

My point is that neither you nor anyother republican should expect blacks to support your all-white party.

Why are blacks loyal to democrats? Simple.

It's not an all-white party.
 
I not only acknowledged the facts you posted .. I added to them.

What you don't want to acknowledge is that those facts have absolutely ZERO to do with the Republican Party today.

Did you somehow forget about Nixon's Southern Strategy?

Do you think black people forgot about it?

Here is the really simple task that you cannot do .. demonstrate why any black people should vote for your all-white party .. which alone defines why we should not.

My point is not that you need black people in your all-white party. Feel free to reject anybody you want.

My point is that neither you nor anyother republican should expect blacks to support your all-white party.

Why are blacks loyal to democrats? Simple.

It's not an all-white party.


did you ever notice that circular arguments go in circles.....blacks are loyal to democrats because blacks vote democrat so blacks get elected as democrats so blacks are loyal to democrats....meanwhile blacks are getting elected as Republicans, but they have nothing to offer to blacks.....go figure....

are white Democrats electing blacks to congress?.....are they electing them to anything if they aren't clean and articulate and dress well?.....are the party leaders white or black.....are blacks consulted about policy?......Obama didn't even bother to go to the NAACP conference this year because he had to do an Oprah interview.....Reid and Pelosi didn't even bother to consult with Obama about health care reform.....they rejected his budget.....
 
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I not only acknowledged the facts you posted .. I added to them.

Yes, you added even MORE evidence the Republican party has NEVER BEEN about discrimination or prejudice. THANK YOU FOR THAT!

What you don't want to acknowledge is that those facts have absolutely ZERO to do with the Republican Party today.

How can the fucking fundamental principles on which it stands, have nothing to do with it today? It would be like me claiming the KKK was a knitting club!
The fundamental principles of what Republicanism is, has not changed and will not ever change. It has NEVER BEEN about racial prejudice, and you have offered ZERO proof of that. All you can do, is CLAIM the party has completely abandoned all notion of the principles it was founded on, and that is not only illogical and irrational, it's just plain ignorant and dumb.

Did you somehow forget about Nixon's Southern Strategy?

Nixon's "Southern Strategy" was to campaign heavily in the South in order to win southern states, since no president had ever been elected without at least one!

Do you think black people forgot about it?

I think many ignorant black people were propagandized into believing a lie about it.

Here is the really simple task that you cannot do .. demonstrate why any black people should vote for your all-white party .. which alone defines why we should not....My point is not that you need black people in your all-white party. Feel free to reject anybody you want...My point is that neither you nor anyother republican should expect blacks to support your all-white party....Why are blacks loyal to democrats? Simple.....It's not an all-white party.

So basically, you are admitting to being a racist?

First of all, unless you know something about Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Alan West, Herman Cain, not to mention Marco Rubio, and host of others... I don't see where you can argue we are "ALL WHITE." Looks to me like we do have SOME color. Second, you have yet to name something specific to identify republicans with racism. Everything you throw out, has to be viewed through a prism of racist assumption to find racism.
 
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