Cops have no constitutional duty to protect you

LV426 said:
It does when it comes to states' rights....at least, that's what you all say all the time, constantly.
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You've never read the 10th Amendment - nor any part of the Constitution.

[FONT=&quot]The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.[/FONT]

Now read the 2nd,

[FONT=&quot]A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.[/FONT]

Perhaps it's the word "delegated" that confuses you? A right specifically enumerated means that the 10th is not pertinent to this situation.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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Which means...what?

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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"Well regulated".
 
SmarterthanYou said:
like other irrational and emotional types, LV is so full of self loathing and hatred that even the slightest disagreement with her desired state of civilian subjugation to big government triggers her in to hysterics, causing her to lash out with the most extreme hyperbole she can muster in the hopes that it sets her bipolar and unbalanced mindset back in to her own focus.
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Take this for what it's worth - which is probably nothing.

The brother in law of my brother in law is a detective for LAPD. So I see the guy at large family gatherings, but nowhere else.

Anyway, the subject of Uvalde came up and he had a very interesting take on it. He said if the cops entered the building without orders from command and someone was killed or injured, the cop would be civilly and criminally liable. His position was that the cops weren't cowards, but that our system is so fucked up that if they acted, they would end up in prison and broke as scapegoats for the situation. Basically, cops are paralyzed by the insanity of the laws that place liability on them for actions they are trying to prevent.

I don't know if this is right, but it does make sense.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
how am I denying the content if that content doesn't exist? Take California, for example, they have no provision in their state constitution that denotes a right to keep and bear arms.
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When was the California constitution ratified?

1879

When was the 14th?

1868

So then, the 14th predates the California Constitution, meaning that the State was ALWAYS compelled to follow federal law under the Bill of Rights.

[FONT=&quot]No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States[/FONT]
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Take this for what it's worth - which is probably nothing.

The brother in law of my brother in law is a detective for LAPD. So I see the guy at large family gatherings, but nowhere else.

Anyway, the subject of Uvalde came up and he had a very interesting take on it. He said if the cops entered the building without orders from command and someone was killed or injured, the cop would be civilly and criminally liable. His position was that the cops weren't cowards, but that our system is so fucked up that if they acted, they would end up in prison and broke as scapegoats for the situation. Basically, cops are paralyzed by the insanity of the laws that place liability on them for actions they are trying to prevent.

I don't know if this is right, but it does make sense.
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I don't doubt that some idiot liberal/progressive DA/AG might try to make that case. I've seen enough fucked up cases where a cop follows a clearly unconstitutional order from a superior, yet the superior is never punished for giving the order.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
When was the California constitution ratified?

1879

When was the 14th?

1868

So then, the 14th predates the California Constitution, meaning that the State was ALWAYS compelled to follow federal law under the Bill of Rights.

[FONT="]No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States[/FONT]
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that's not how federalism works.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
The constitution is first and foremost the nation's announcement and description of incorporation.

It's NOT a comprehensive document outlining everything that we're required to do
and everything that we're proscribed from doing.

At least half the people posting on this forum seem to think that it is.
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It's a matter of supremacy, Nicky.

The Constitution overrides lesser laws and rulings.
 
LV426 said:
1. Most criminals are armed with guns that were first bought legally.
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Not true.

2. As many as 300,000 guns go missing every year, and 90% of the time, the authorities aren't made aware.
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Not true.

3. The primary means by which criminals get guns is via theft from people's homes or cars.
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You JUST said they bought them legally - you can't keep your own lies straight.

So you buy a gun to protect your home and car from criminals armed with guns they stole from homes and cars.

That's a cynical, bloody cycle that has done nothing to stem the flood of 40,000+ gun deaths every year.

It's not a question of IF you lose track of your guns but WHEN.
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Aren't the overwhelming majority of deaths from firearms suicide?

Are you claiming that those who kill themselves steal guns from cars and homes?
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We also note a sharp increase right around the time China and their vassals, the Vichy democrats, unleashed the Wuhan Designer Virus® on America and the world.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
It is how our Constitutional Republic works.

If you don't like the 14th, work to repeal it. Until such time, it remains as law of the land and all states are bound by it.
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again, that's not how federalism works. If a state makes a law that is in direct conflict with the US Constitution, then it is indeed an unconstitutional state law, however, if that state law does not infringe on the powers granted to the federal government, then it's a completely valid state law.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
again, that's not how federalism works. If a state makes a law that is in direct conflict with the US Constitution, then it is indeed an unconstitutional state law, however, if that state law does not infringe on the powers granted to the federal government, then it's a completely valid state law.
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You're confusing confederate with federal.

{[h=4]What is the main difference between federal and confederal?[/h][FONT=&quot]The main difference is how much power constituent units vs. national government have. In a confederacy, power and sovereignty belong primarily to the units, while in a federation they are shared between the units and the national government.}

https://study.com/academy/lesson/un...=In a federal form of,held at the state level.

The United States is a federation, has a federal government that is empowered as a national legal entity within the specific enumerations and constraints of the constitution. The 14th Amendment is a significant part of constitutional authority granted to the federal government. We are not a confederacy.

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LV426 said:
You have yet to make an argument for me to disagree!

Bottom line is that you are on record saying the reason you have guns is to protect from government tyranny, except that every single time the government has been tyrannical over the last 40 years you've defended that tyranny.

So you're full of shit, just like every other Conservative Nazi I've ever had the displeasure of meeting.
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You are hallucinating again, Sock.
The Nazis were socialists, like DEMOCRATS.
 
LV426 said:
You're the liar here.

After all, you change quotes and lie about what people say because there is nothing about you, your personality, or your beliefs that are worth defending.
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LIF. Grow up. You cannot project YOUR problems on anybody else, Sock.
 
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