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DonQuixote said:
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turbines are more efficient and have better torque than recprocating engines, but they are more expensive to manufacture and maintain
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*hits head*

Sorry, wrong terminology. I was talking about putting "windmills" on the side of the car to pick up wind for power - which would introduce drag and ultimately cost the car more in terms of that than it produced in energ.

Turbines, of course, are more efficient. But there's a number of reasons they aren't used, a few of which you just listed.
 
DonQuixote said:
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ethanol is a poison, 'denatured' ethanol is a stronger poison, but petrolum lasts longer and does more overall harm
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HEHE

It all has to do with degree. Ethanol isn't really "poison", otherwise 90% of the US would have dropped dead by now.

But covering bacteria in it, they can't handle it. Just like a cat couldn't handle it if you gave it 10 ounces of Vitamin E.
 
I really hate it whenever people refer to drugs as "poison" - it's fearmongering terminology that they know doesn't really even make sense.
 
One of the main reasons Chrysler didn't release the turbine car was because the engine sounded like a vacuum cleaner, rather than having that rumble. Kind of a silly, superficial reason, eh? But that's how the market is judged.
 
Just like the public decided on the EV1 from GM. Anyone else see that show about the story of the EV1 ?
GN decided to pull them from the leases and scrap em. the customers cried to lose em...
 
The Turbine car was actually less efficient than an internal combustion engine powered one. It's just that it could run on pretty much any fuel imaginable. Which would actually be useful in the modern world, for security reasons.

But it was actually the government that shut it down. Whenever the government agreed to bail out Chrysler, one of the terms was that the stop research on the turbine car. What a terrible decision, it would've been so useful in the modern world.
 
Turbines have power transfer problems for automotive uses.
their operating RPM range is a bit limited.
Butt they worked great in the buttmobile.
 
Watermark said:
HEHE

It all has to do with degree. Ethanol isn't really "poison", otherwise 90% of the US would have dropped dead by now.

But covering bacteria in it, they can't handle it. Just like a cat couldn't handle it if you gave it 10 ounces of Vitamin E.
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w

oh w, ethanol is a poison depending on how much you ingest over what time period - a bunch of harvard doctors had just graduated and gave each other ethanol (vodka) enemas - they ALL died from alcohol poisoning


ps i am not opposed to imbibing ethanol (with appropriate flavoring), but i am a cheap drunk due to the amount of medications that i am taking

oh well
 
Watermark said:
I really hate it whenever people refer to drugs as "poison" - it's fearmongering terminology that they know doesn't really even make sense.
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w

almost all drugs are poisons, but it depends on whether a little poison is better than whatever disease you have

for example, monkshood (digitalis) a little may be good for you, but a lot will kill you

as for fear mongering, remember that we are all born dying and no one escapes alive, so have as much fun as you can along the way
 
uscitizen said:
Turbines have power transfer problems for automotive uses.
their operating RPM range is a bit limited.
Butt they worked great in the buttmobile.
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turbine engines were banned from racing because they were TOO good

the biggest problem with a turbine engine is that the bearings used MUST be excellent and are therefore expensive

if turbines are so bad, then why do we use turbine engines on all of our jets and some of our ships...
 
DonQuixote said:
turbine engines were banned from racing because they were TOO good

the biggest problem with a turbine engine is that the bearings used MUST be excellent and are therefore expensive

if turbines are so bad, then why do we use turbine engines on all of our jets and some of our ships...
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Umm because they spin fast ?
Airplanes are for the power to weight ratio.
And I don't think a turbojet engine works well with a piston drive in it :)
Gets a bit complicated to explain....

Natural gas turbines are also used to generate electricity.
 
DonQuixote said:
w

almost all drugs are poisons, but it depends on whether a little poison is better than whatever disease you have

for example, monkshood (digitalis) a little may be good for you, but a lot will kill you

as for fear mongering, remember that we are all born dying and no one escapes alive, so have as much fun as you can along the way
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Describing it as a "poison" is a misnomer at any reasonable levels of the drugs taken.
 
w

sometimes a near lethal dose is needed, or prolonged usage is bad for the kidneys and/or liver

or the side effects are bad for a given class of people

or an interaction with one or more drugs is dangerous or lethal

please google Pharmacology and use the 'healthline' reference

the basics of the use of drugs is to change the homeostaic balance in an animal

usually from bad to better
 
uscitizen said:
Umm because they spin fast ?

no, for the power to weight ratio and that they generate more than a reciprocating engine

Airplanes are for the power to weight ratio.
And I don't think a turbojet engine works well with a piston drive in it :)


Gets a bit complicated to explain....you mean all of those years i spent working in aerospace working as an engineer were for nothing...:)

Natural gas turbines are also used to generate electricity.
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as for other forms of turbine usage, those on stable platforms with fixed fuel supplies take many forms usually based on cost/performance ratios
 
Watermark said:
*hits head*

Sorry, wrong terminology. I was talking about putting "windmills" on the side of the car to pick up wind for power - which would introduce drag and ultimately cost the car more in terms of that than it produced in energ.

Turbines, of course, are more efficient. But there's a number of reasons they aren't used, a few of which you just listed.
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w

not to worry, there are a variety of non-mobile wind turbines
 
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