Coronavirus: Are You In It For The Long Run?

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PoliTalker

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A lot of people seem to get way too hung up on the latest news, the latest headlines.

We live in this unsustainable throw-away world of disposable products, and it seems like the news is becoming a disposable product. The latest headlines are attention-grabbing and we want to know the latest, want to talk about what it means (and here, apparently, we want to talk about one another more than the actual political subject,) but what about the bigger picture?

Each day's headlines contribute to a much bigger picture. Really, the long standing trends and changes are more important.

How does this obsession with the latest news hurt us?

Well, look at the Coronavirus.

Most people were great at social distancing at first, right after the national emergency was declared. But as the headlines got stale, people wanted to be done with that, wanted to move on.

The only problem is the pandemic has not gone away.

If we drop our guard, stop practicing social distancing measures, that allows the virus to have a resurgence.

That is apparently what happened in 1918, and it looks like it is about to happen all over again.

People, we need to think beyond the last thing that was said.

We have to see the bigger picture.
 
One of the things that was so shocking about the Coronavirus when it was new, was the realization that everyday life had to change, and it had to change for a long time.

We learned that we have to get a vaccine, or herd immunity, before we can go back to life as we knew it.

If we try to blow this off and rush things?

We could have a second wave, a third wave, multiple waves.

Everybody heard this, but it seems a lot of people have not done a good job of making a commitment to fight this thing till the end.

And we have very poor leadership. That is hurting us a lot. DT is acting like it's all over, and so are his sycophants.

Just because the headlines get replaced every day doesn't mean the old ones become meaningless.
 
We are all part of the army needed to fight Coronavirus.

We need good leadership because we are not trained to do this. We never signed up for this.

If we don't have good leadership we are not going to remain committed.

Losing 100 thousand Americans is losing the war.

If only we had good leadership.

DT is a failure.
 
No worries. According to the trump worshipping "mental midgets", the CV is a hoax and will be gone when the weather gets warm.
 
Hello Nordberg,

Nordberg said:
My wife is in leukemia remission. we are very careful about Corona. We will stay that way.
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Best wishes for continued health for you both.

And you'll have your best chance at it if I have anything to do with it. I am determined to stick to the guidelines even if I am the only one in a particular setting. I know that by doing the patriotic thing I am not only protecting myself but others. I would hate to think that I got lax and it led to someone else dying. I would not want to live with that. I've got to do my best. I owe it to my fellow citizens.
 
PoliTalker said:
We are all part of the army needed to fight Coronavirus.

We need good leadership because we are not trained to do this. We never signed up for this.

If we don't have good leadership we are not going to remain committed.

Losing 100 thousand Americans is losing the war.

If only we had good leadership.

DT is a failure.
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Where were you when we had H1N1 ? And the annual flu ?
 
Hello Tacomaman,

Tacomaman said:
No worries. According to the trump worshipping "mental midgets", the CV is a hoax and will be gone when the weather gets warm.
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Funny he hasn't scheduled any rallies if he believes that nonsense.

He just wants to keep all his bases covered but be suggestive enough to encourage idiots.

We are witnessing The Art Of The Con.

You know that's the book he should really write.
 
Hello Jack,

Jack said:
I have hunkered down.
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Same here.

And I do miss doing stuff, seeing people!

But it's not like I am giving in. We gotta beat this bug. I wanna do my part. It's the patriotic thing to do.

We are all soldiers in the Corona War.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Jack,



Same here.

And I do miss doing stuff, seeing people!

But it's not like I am giving in. We gotta beat this bug. I wanna do my part. It's the patriotic thing to do.

We are all soldiers in the Corona War.
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I'm waiting for the 'herd immunity' to kick in. :)
 
Hello Jack,

Jack said:
I'm waiting for the 'herd immunity' to kick in. :)
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I hear ya. I want my life back as much as anybody else. Some people just don't have what it takes to be a Corona Warrior. That makes the job that much more difficult for the rest of us.
 
PoliTalker said:
A lot of people seem to get way too hung up on the latest news, the latest headlines.

We live in this unsustainable throw-away world of disposable products, and it seems like the news is becoming a disposable product. The latest headlines are attention-grabbing and we want to know the latest, want to talk about what it means (and here, apparently, we want to talk about one another more than the actual political subject,) but what about the bigger picture?

Each day's headlines contribute to a much bigger picture. Really, the long standing trends and changes are more important.

How does this obsession with the latest news hurt us?

Well, look at the Coronavirus.

Most people were great at social distancing at first, right after the national emergency was declared. But as the headlines got stale, people wanted to be done with that, wanted to move on.

The only problem is the pandemic has not gone away.

If we drop our guard, stop practicing social distancing measures, that allows the virus to have a resurgence.

That is apparently what happened in 1918, and it looks like it is about to happen all over again.

People, we need to think beyond the last thing that was said.

We have to see the bigger picture.
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Maybe you addressed this later ITT but I think it goes without saying there is zero social distancing going on in these protests. You have thousands of people marching side by side on the streets and this is in cities where shelter-in-place orders are in effect. They won't let you go to work but you can walk next to hundreds of others on the street. Not sure how this is helping us get past the virus.
 
cawacko said:
Maybe you addressed this later ITT but I think it goes without saying there is zero social distancing going on in these protests. You have thousands of people marching side by side on the streets and this is in cities where shelter-in-place orders are in effect. They won't let you go to work but you can walk next to hundreds of others on the street. Not sure how this is helping us get past the virus.
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I think it is dangerous. Almost all are wearing masks though. They feel that civil rights are worth the risk.
 
Nordberg said:
I think it is dangerous. Almost all are wearing masks though. They feel that civil rights are worth the risk.
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Headline story in the SF Chronicle today:

Choosing between tragedies: Mass protests vs. coronavirus safety

Thousands of people across the Bay Area hit the streets over the weekend to protest the killing of a black man by police in Minneapolis, and infectious disease expert John Swartzberg’s first thought, watching the peaceful demonstrations from his home in Lafayette, was: “I’m so grateful. I hope the world hears them.”

And his next was: “Wow, so many of them aren’t wearing masks.”


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Choosing-between-tragedies-Mass-protests-vs-15309625.php
 
cawacko said:
Headline story in the SF Chronicle today:

Choosing between tragedies: Mass protests vs. coronavirus safety

Thousands of people across the Bay Area hit the streets over the weekend to protest the killing of a black man by police in Minneapolis, and infectious disease expert John Swartzberg’s first thought, watching the peaceful demonstrations from his home in Lafayette, was: “I’m so grateful. I hope the world hears them.”

And his next was: “Wow, so many of them aren’t wearing masks.”


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Choosing-between-tragedies-Mass-protests-vs-15309625.php
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It's all about priorities and convenience. Risk vs. reward.
Drive a car or ride a horse? (AGW)
Green New Deal or destroy modern conveniences for the nebulous of possibly, maybe "saving the planet" for six generations from now?
Protect yourself against coronavirus on the off chance it will actually prevent you from getting it or the comfort of breathing fresh air?
It's called economy of scale. Over time economy of scale wins out, every time.
 
Hello anonymoose,

anonymoose said:
It's all about priorities and convenience. Risk vs. reward.
Drive a car or ride a horse? (AGW)
Green New Deal or destroy modern conveniences for the nebulous of possibly, maybe "saving the planet" for six generations from now?
Protect yourself against coronavirus on the off chance it will actually prevent you from getting it or the comfort of breathing fresh air?
It's called economy of scale. Over time economy of scale wins out, every time.
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Which is why a second wave is almost inevitable.

And that makes it all the more important to follow the CDC guidelines.
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
Maybe you addressed this later ITT but I think it goes without saying there is zero social distancing going on in these protests. You have thousands of people marching side by side on the streets and this is in cities where shelter-in-place orders are in effect. They won't let you go to work but you can walk next to hundreds of others on the street. Not sure how this is helping us get past the virus.
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I agree.

A well-organized protest would stipulate masks and 6' + spacing. And would also say when, what and for how long, and how important it is to go right home after. That way it makes it hard for outsiders to turn it into something else.

But then, realistically, we are dealing with an emotionally charged social movement in reaction to a shocking murder. Being emotional does not lead to logical thinking and planning.
 
Jack said:
I'm waiting for the 'herd immunity' to kick in. :)
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You need over 84 percent of the people to get it. That is a way off. It is almost like a measles party mentality. Except this one can kill you and it has lingering effects for many, like permanent lung damage. Kids get Kawasaki disease. this is nothing to play with. A lot of body bags will be filled before we reach herd.
 
PoliTalker said:
One of the things that was so shocking about the Coronavirus when it was new, was the realization that everyday life had to change, and it had to change for a long time.

We learned that we have to get a vaccine, or herd immunity, before we can go back to life as we knew it.

If we try to blow this off and rush things?

We could have a second wave, a third wave, multiple waves.

Everybody heard this, but it seems a lot of people have not done a good job of making a commitment to fight this thing till the end.

And we have very poor leadership. That is hurting us a lot. DT is acting like it's all over, and so are his sycophants.

Just because the headlines get replaced every day doesn't mean the old ones become meaningless.
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With any luck, I've already had it. If so, y'all are on your own! :)

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