Coronavirus: Are You In It For The Long Run?

PoliTalker said:
Hello anonymoose,



Which is why a second wave is almost inevitable.

And that makes it all the more important to follow the CDC guidelines.
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I only knew one person that got infected in the first wave. Physician in Boston. Nobody here. Don't even know anybody that knows anybody that got infected around here.
 
I dont take any long view in the sense that I dont expect to be around long, but I do in the sense that we are a society that is in collapse and I scan the internet looking for some reasons for optimism that my peers are wising up, or at least figuring out that they need to. Most of what the so-called journalism folks produce is somewhere between crap and propaganda but I do a lot of skimming of stuff on this Bug Out OF China looking for something newsworthy and helpful, for instance I am seeing a lot of stuff that indicates that this bug is becoming less lethal through evolution as Bret Weinstein and his wife said long ago was likely to happen. Everyday is depressing though getting the very low quality of our political class and medical experts shoved in my face, and as an educated person knowing what this very poor performance from our Elites means going forwards. This society is crashing, and there is no indication that we will get capable people in the cockpit before we hit ground, which is going to hurt.
 
Nordberg said:
You need over 84 percent of the people to get it. That is a way off. It is almost like a measles party mentality. Except this one can kill you and it has lingering effects for many, like permanent lung damage. Kids get Kawasaki disease. this is nothing to play with. A lot of body bags will be filled before we reach herd.
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Yes. Jack is trying to avoid checking out like this. :(
 
Hello Penderyn,

Penderyn said:
As we can see in Brazil! Nice and warm down there, I believe, and it'll get a lot hotter as they destroy the Amazon forests.
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Brazil had a bad day yesterday.

Topped the USA in both new cases and deaths.

Apparently, having an idiotic RW blowhard deny the virus is not a very good approach.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Unfortunately that's no guarantee. We don't know if immunity can be developed.
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True, but there's an 80% chance my wife and I won't be affected. We're both in our earl-mid-60s but in good health, so maybe slightly less. Still great odds.

The bottom line here is we're all going to get it unless a vaccine is developed. More will die unless a cure is developed.
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
True, but there's an 80% chance my wife and I won't be affected. We're both in our earl-mid-60s but in good health, so maybe slightly less. Still great odds.

The bottom line here is we're all going to get it unless a vaccine is developed. More will die unless a cure is developed.
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That's actually a good news point: No, we are not all going to get it. We don't have to. Predictions were that a majority would eventually get it, but not all.

We must all continue to strive to be in the few who never get it.

It would be nice to think that we probably already had it, but without an effective antibody test, we can't know that.

Logically, it is unwise to make any assumptions here.

In case we did not previously have it, we must continue to avoid the possibility of becoming infected in the future.

It would be tragic to make an incorrect assumption, and then pay a terrible price for being wrong.

The smartest thing to do is to continue assuming we have not had it, and continue to follow the distancing guidelines until more is known.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,



That's actually a good news point: No, we are not all going to get it. We don't have to. Predictions were that a majority would eventually get it, but not all.

We must all continue to strive to be in the few who never get it.

It would be nice to think that we probably already had it, but without an effective antibody test, we can't know that.

Logically, it is unwise to make any assumptions here.

In case we did not previously have it, we must continue to avoid the possibility of becoming infected in the future.

It would be tragic to make an incorrect assumption, and then pay a terrible price for being wrong.

The smartest thing to do is to continue assuming we have not had it, and continue to follow the distancing guidelines until more is known.
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The main problem, IMHO, is that one of the richest nations, and certainly most powerful, has gutted itself for two decades and now can't handle a simple pandemic.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
With any luck, I've already had it. If so, y'all are on your own! :)

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Hey a 60s target thanks Dutch1-14-2017 8-32-56_001.jpg
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
The main problem, IMHO, is that one of the richest nations, and certainly most powerful, has gutted itself for two decades and now can't handle a simple pandemic.
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I know.

It's all part of having a poser president.

Gotta get rid of him in November.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,



I know.

It's all part of having a poser president.

Gotta get rid of him in November.
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Trump is certainly a fucking moron and I continue to get a daily laugh out of his antics. OTOH, I'm not comfortable with a Democrat WH, a possible Democrat Senate and a Democrat House. The nation needs balance, not domination by either side.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Thanks for the picture. I figured the old military vets would get the reference.

I was a few years behind you and missed all of the fun. My dad served two tours but all I got was a "Alive in '75" medal.

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My dad at Cam Ranh Bay and after he passed from Alzheimer's last December.
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Thank you for your service and I am sorry for your loss. My father in law passed the same way what an awful disease. He was a POW in Russia WWII till he escaped.
 
PoliTalker said:
A lot of people seem to get way too hung up on the latest news, the latest headlines.

We live in this unsustainable throw-away world of disposable products, and it seems like the news is becoming a disposable product. The latest headlines are attention-grabbing and we want to know the latest, want to talk about what it means (and here, apparently, we want to talk about one another more than the actual political subject,) but what about the bigger picture?

Each day's headlines contribute to a much bigger picture. Really, the long standing trends and changes are more important.

How does this obsession with the latest news hurt us?

Well, look at the Coronavirus.

Most people were great at social distancing at first, right after the national emergency was declared. But as the headlines got stale, people wanted to be done with that, wanted to move on.

The only problem is the pandemic has not gone away.

If we drop our guard, stop practicing social distancing measures, that allows the virus to have a resurgence.

That is apparently what happened in 1918, and it looks like it is about to happen all over again.

People, we need to think beyond the last thing that was said.

We have to see the bigger picture.
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you're basic.
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
Trump is certainly a fucking moron and I continue to get a daily laugh out of his antics. OTOH, I'm not comfortable with a Democrat WH, a possible Democrat Senate and a Democrat House. The nation needs balance, not domination by either side.
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The swinging of the political pendulum is not domination by either side.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Thank you for your service and I am sorry for your loss. My father in law passed the same way what an awful disease. He was a POW in Russia WWII till he escaped.
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Thank you for yours in a time of war. Thanks. Yes, it's not the way I'd want to go. Russia? What service?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Thank you for yours in a time of war. Thanks. Yes, it's not the way I'd want to go. Russia? What service?
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Navy.

During WWII Russia had a non agression pact with Japan. So any American crews that flew into Kamchatka from the east were detained as POWS. They would be moved from camp to camp until they were near the ME where they were allowed to escape. The book The Last Flight of Bomber 31 has a picture of my FIL's crew in it. Good book about the war in the North Pacific, I highly recommend it.
 
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Russian collusion......over
Mueller report......over
impeachment......over
coronavirus........over

we're on to cities burning now.......
 
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