Could A Good God Permit So Much Suffering?

[Cypress]

Nope.
Time dilation is not due to gravity!

"We actually experience a very small amount of time dilation here on Earth because of Earth’s gravity. This has been seen on airplanes where clocks tick at slightly faster rates in the air as opposed to on the ground. Astronauts living on the International Space Station also experience time at a slightly different rate because they are further from the gravitational pull of the Earth."

- NASA​

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What Happens When Something Gets ‘Too Close' to a Black Hole? - NASA Science

Can a star be squeezed like a tube of toothpaste, flattened like a pancake, or stretched out like a piece of spaghetti? If there's a black hole nearby, maybe.

science.nasa.gov

 

[IBDaMann]

You're about 50 years out of date.

You are egregiously misinformed.

Classical forces have been replaced by quantum field theory.

No classical physics have been replaced.

Fields tell objects how to move, not classical forces at a distance.

This is very bad. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are allowing someone to lead you astray.

The acceleration due to a gravitational field is because of the curvature of spacetime,

The motion of any body from to the force of gravity is due to the acceleration of that body that gravity causes. Relativity differs from Newton's model in that Relativity adds corrections for the differing reference frames, corrections that are not needed when everything occurs within the same single reference frame.

not because there is a classical force pushing or pulling on an object.

This is the stupidest JPP quote of the week.

 

[Based Chad]

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What Happens When Something Gets ‘Too Close' to a Black Hole? - NASA Science

Can a star be squeezed like a tube of toothpaste, flattened like a pancake, or stretched out like a piece of spaghetti? If there's a black hole nearby, maybe.

science.nasa.gov

did you ask Doug Imhoff?

 

[IBDaMann]

"We actually experience a very small amount of time dilation

When you read someone claim that we somehow "experience" time dilation, you are supposed to call BS.

This has been seen on airplanes where clocks tick at slightly faster rates in the air as opposed to on the ground.

When someone claims that humans "notice" clocks tick at an indiscernibly faster rate, you are supposed to call BS.

Astronauts living on the International Space Station also experience time at a slightly different rate because they are further from the gravitational pull of the Earth."

Time dilation is not experienced.

 

[Cypress]

You are egregiously misinformed.


No classical physics have been replaced.


This is very bad. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are allowing someone to lead you astray.

You're stuck in the classical Newtonian forces framework from the 17th century, and are ignoring 500 years of physics since then.

The motion of any body from to the force of gravity is due to the acceleration of that body that gravity causes.

Your still stuck in the 17th century, and describing a classical force as action at a distance.

What Einstein realized is that matter tells spacetime how to curve, and spacetime tells matter how to move.

Relativity differs from Newton's model in that Relativity adds corrections for the differing reference frames, corrections that are not needed when everything occurs within the same single reference frame.

Relativity wasn't just a modest correction to classical Newtonian physics. Einstein wouldn't have the iconic stature he does if his contributions were just modest updates.

Relativity was a complete rethinking of our basic concepts of space, time, motion, inertia, and gravity.

 

[Cypress]

When you read someone claim that we somehow "experience" time dilation, you are supposed to call BS.


When someone claims that humans "notice" clocks tick at an indiscernibly faster rate, you are supposed to call BS.


Time dilation is not experienced.

^^ I notice you didn't even bother to try to deny gravitational time dilation, even though your boyfriend ITN unequivocally said it doesn't exist

 

[IBDaMann]

You're stuck in the classical Newtonian forces framework from the 17th century, and are ignoring 500 years of physics since then.

I'm not stuck anywhere. I am not ignoring any science. You are misinformed. You have allowed someone else to do your thinking for you, and thus, to lead you astray. You have said some real bonehead things in this thread.

... describing a classical force as action at a distance.

Listen to yourself. You are claiming that science is nothing more than my opinion. You're a bonehead. You think that you can confidently denigrate science as long as you characterize it as my mere opinion. Stupid.

What Einstein realized

You don't get to speak for any dead people, least of all "what they realized."

is that matter tells spacetime how to curve,

You don't even know what any of what you just wrote means.

and spacetime tells matter how to move.

Nope.

Relativity wasn't just a modest correction to classical Newtonian physics.

Correct. It was, and is, huge.

Einstein wouldn't have the iconic stature he does if his contributions were just modest updates.

How do you know? Dr. Martin Luther King holds a mega-high, iconic stature without having made any contribution at all.

Relativity was a complete rethinking of our basic concepts of space, time, motion, inertia, and gravity.

Yes.

 

[IBDaMann]

^^ I notice you didn't even bother to try to deny gravitational time dilation,

Do you want some brownie points?

even though your boyfriend ITN unequivocally said it doesn't exist

Why are you taking it up with me?

 

[Into the Night]

"We actually experience a very small amount of time dilation here on Earth because of Earth’s gravity.

Time dilation is not caused by gravity, Sybil.

This has been seen on airplanes where clocks tick at slightly faster rates in the air as opposed to on the ground.

Or slower rates. An airplane is not gravity, Sybil.

Astronauts living on the International Space Station also experience time at a slightly different rate because they are further from the gravitational pull of the Earth."

A satellite or space station is not gravity either, Sybil.

- NASA​

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Gravity is not a government agency, Sybil.

 

[Based Chad]

You're about 50 years out of date.

Classical forces have been replaced by quantum field theory. Fields tell objects how to move, not classical forces at a distance.

The acceleration due to a gravitational field is because of the curvature of spacetime, not because there is a classical force pushing or pulling on an object.

and morality is replaced with eugenics, right devil worshipper?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

"We actually experience a very small amount of time dilation here on Earth because of Earth’s gravity. This has been seen on airplanes where clocks tick at slightly faster rates in the air as opposed to on the ground. Astronauts living on the International Space Station also experience time at a slightly different rate because they are further from the gravitational pull of the Earth."

- NASA​

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What Happens When Something Gets ‘Too Close' to a Black Hole? - NASA Science

Can a star be squeezed like a tube of toothpaste, flattened like a pancake, or stretched out like a piece of spaghetti? If there's a black hole nearby, maybe.

science.nasa.gov

Exploring time dilation was part of NASA's 2016 Kelly twin experiment. Normal people accept the science. Schizos and MAGtards, not so much.

Einstein's 'Time Dilation' Spread Age Gap for Astronaut Scott Kelly & His Twin

Former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly's historic one-year mission aboard the International Space Station made his identical twin Mark an even older brother, by about 5 milliseconds.

www.space.com

It really is all relative: Former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly's historic one-year mission aboard the International Space Station (ISS) made his identical twin Mark an even older brother.

The unprecedented jaunt, which ended this past March, brought Scott Kelly's total time in orbit to 520 days — all of which he spent zooming around Earth at 17,500 mph (28,160 km/h).

Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity holds that time moves more slowly for objects in motion compared to a stationary observer, and experiments have borne out this prediction. This "time dilation" is most dramatic and noticeable at relativistic speeds, but the effects manifest even at the much lower velocities experienced by bodies in Earth orbit. [The Human Body in Space: 6 Weird Facts]

"So, where[as] I used to be just 6 minutes older, now I am 6 minutes and 5 milliseconds older," Mark Kelly said Tuesday (July 12) during a panel discussion at the ISS Research & Development 2016 conference in San Diego. Scott Kelly also participated in the panel, which was moderated by CNN TV personality Sanjay Gupta and webcast live.

 

[Margot]

What makes you think a spirit is not part of the physical universe? There is, after all only one universe (by definition).

Spirit predates,the Physical universe, and is on a higher plane

 

[Based Chad]

Exploring time dilation was part of NASA's 2016 Kelly twin experiment. Normal people accept the science. Schizos and MAGtards, not so much.

Einstein's 'Time Dilation' Spread Age Gap for Astronaut Scott Kelly & His Twin

Former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly's historic one-year mission aboard the International Space Station made his identical twin Mark an even older brother, by about 5 milliseconds.

www.space.com

It really is all relative: Former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly's historic one-year mission aboard the International Space Station (ISS) made his identical twin Mark an even older brother.

The unprecedented jaunt, which ended this past March, brought Scott Kelly's total time in orbit to 520 days — all of which he spent zooming around Earth at 17,500 mph (28,160 km/h).

Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity holds that time moves more slowly for objects in motion compared to a stationary observer, and experiments have borne out this prediction. This "time dilation" is most dramatic and noticeable at relativistic speeds, but the effects manifest even at the much lower velocities experienced by bodies in Earth orbit. [The Human Body in Space: 6 Weird Facts]

"So, where[as] I used to be just 6 minutes older, now I am 6 minutes and 5 milliseconds older," Mark Kelly said Tuesday (July 12) during a panel discussion at the ISS Research & Development 2016 conference in San Diego. Scott Kelly also participated in the panel, which was moderated by CNN TV personality Sanjay Gupta and webcast live.

dumb as fuck like you.

 

[Based Chad]

im 55 milliseconds older!

 

[Cypress]

Do you want some brownie points?

Why are you taking it up with me?

You claim to supposedly want to get physics exactly right, but then you totally ignored your boyfriend ITN writing something completely false and ass-backwards incorrect about gravitational time dilation

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[Cypress]

Exploring time dilation was part of NASA's 2016 Kelly twin experiment. Normal people accept the science. Schizos and MAGtards, not so much.

Einstein's 'Time Dilation' Spread Age Gap for Astronaut Scott Kelly & His Twin

Former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly's historic one-year mission aboard the International Space Station made his identical twin Mark an even older brother, by about 5 milliseconds.

www.space.com

It really is all relative: Former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly's historic one-year mission aboard the International Space Station (ISS) made his identical twin Mark an even older brother.

The unprecedented jaunt, which ended this past March, brought Scott Kelly's total time in orbit to 520 days — all of which he spent zooming around Earth at 17,500 mph (28,160 km/h).

Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity holds that time moves more slowly for objects in motion compared to a stationary observer, and experiments have borne out this prediction. This "time dilation" is most dramatic and noticeable at relativistic speeds, but the effects manifest even at the much lower velocities experienced by bodies in Earth orbit. [The Human Body in Space: 6 Weird Facts]

"So, where[as] I used to be just 6 minutes older, now I am 6 minutes and 5 milliseconds older," Mark Kelly said Tuesday (July 12) during a panel discussion at the ISS Research & Development 2016 conference in San Diego. Scott Kelly also participated in the panel, which was moderated by CNN TV personality Sanjay Gupta and webcast live.

It's to your credit that you are motivated to get physics right.

ITN just digs her heels in and digs the hole deeper when she is flagrantly incorrect, lol

 

[Based Chad]

It's to your credit that you are motivated to get physics right.

ITN just digs her heels in and digs the hole deeper when she is flagrantly incorrect, lol

maybe you can suck his dick?

 

[gmark77]

It's to your credit that you are motivated to get physics right.

ITN just digs her heels in and digs the hole deeper when she is flagrantly incorrect, lol

ITN is female????? That I find surprising. I'm used to only dudes being as obtuse as ITN. LOL.

 

[Cypress]

I can suck my own dick!

ftfy

 

[Based Chad]

ftfy

can you?