Covid19 question.

[T. A. Gardner]

It has been reported that president elect Biden wants a national mask policy. Under his plan as soon as you step outside your door you must wear a mask or face a possible fine.

Does he not understand that unlike hay fever that is caused by pollen drifting in the air the Covid19 germs do not just float with the breeze waiting to infect people? Also the air in ones home is the same air as outside. So if you must wear a mask outside shouldn't you wear a mask inside especially if you have your windows open?

No.

The idiot also doesn't recognize that he really doesn't have the authority to order that to begin with. Individual states and governors would. The only way the President could do it is like Carter did the 55 mph national speed limit. That is threatening to withhold federal funds until such a mandate is in place. States might do this, but then like the hated 55 mph speed limit, ignore enforcement or put in place a token enforcement that means nothing.
That would be followed by the general public pushing back and ignoring or flaunting the order.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Fair enough. Though he should recognize that it's bullshit.

Well, one would think. Maybe he was doing it in jest? As a joke thread because everyone knows Joe's not that stupid.
AOC maybe, but not "Sleepy Joe".

 

[Phantasmal]

It has been reported that president elect Biden wants a national mask policy. Under his plan as soon as you step outside your door you must wear a mask or face a possible fine.

Does he not understand that unlike hay fever that is caused by pollen drifting in the air the Covid19 germs do not just float with the breeze waiting to infect people? Also the air in ones home is the same air as outside. So if you must wear a mask outside shouldn't you wear a mask inside especially if you have your windows open?

Are you sure it’s outside or in public? As a job, on the street downtown passing people, in the store?

I don’t plan on wearing one in my yard.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No.

The idiot also doesn't recognize that he really doesn't have the authority to order that to begin with. Individual states and governors would. The only way the President could do it is like Carter did the 55 mph national speed limit. That is threatening to withhold federal funds until such a mandate is in place. States might do this, but then like the hated 55 mph speed limit, ignore enforcement or put in place a token enforcement that means nothing.
That would be followed by the general public pushing back and ignoring or flaunting the order.

You're being misled by an Air Force NCO, Chief. Sleepy Joe never said anything and has never hinted at a mandatory mask mandate for mowing your lawn or pissing on your wife's roses.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You're being misled by an Air Force NCO, Chief. Sleepy Joe never said anything and has never hinted at a mandatory mask mandate for mowing your lawn or pissing on your wife's roses.

Yes, he did, and there it is.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

[video=youtube;lvGIlZdwnJA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGIlZdwnJA

Yes, he did, and there it is.

Thanks for the link, Chief. You know as well as most the difference between "should" and "will". Note the part where he left it up to the Governors.

I support State's Rights, Chief. Do you?

 

[AProudLefty]

Thanks for the link, Chief. You know as well as most the difference between "should" and "will". Note the part where he left it up to the Governors.

I support State's Rights, Chief. Do you?

And it also goes down to the local levels and businesses.

 

[Celticguy]

Do you honestly believe that? I'm serious, does your mind really reject every medical expert out there and come to some inane conclusion that they are all wrong? That is truly bizarre.

Yes.
Firstly, the CDC experts initially said it (masks) were not appropriate. Which is correct.
But then people started getting worked up so they said wear the mask to make them feel like they were "doing something".
Look at the youtube if a doctor with a vape thing and a slew of different masjs and respirators. The vape "smoke" which is just water vapors goes right through every one.
Remember the mini fiasco about the update CDC put out then immediately pulled off ? Did you look at it once it got put back up ? Ill temind you, it said "it MAY BE possible" to catch china cooties by inhaling them. Up until that time it was only touch.
So, yes i believe what the scientists said and demonstrated.
Ill wear one out because its not worth the grief.
But they're useless.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And it also goes down to the local levels and businesses.

Agreed. Every locality has the right to make their own rules. The Constitution is an umbrella, not a cage.

 

[Concart]

Yes.
Firstly, the CDC experts initially said it (masks) were not appropriate. Which is correct.
But then people started getting worked up so they said wear the mask to make them feel like they were "doing something".
Look at the youtube if a doctor with a vape thing and a slew of different masjs and respirators. The vape "smoke" which is just water vapors goes right through every one.
Remember the mini fiasco about the update CDC put out then immediately pulled off ? Did you look at it once it got put back up ? Ill temind you, it said "it MAY BE possible" to catch china cooties by inhaling them. Up until that time it was only touch.
So, yes i believe what the scientists said and demonstrated.
Ill wear one out because its not worth the grief.
But they're useless.

So you get your medical advice from a youtube video because you think medical professionals are partisan. Okay, got it.

 

[AProudLefty]

The Constitution is an umbrella, not a cage.

I love that one!!!!!!!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yes.
Firstly, the CDC experts initially said it (masks) were not appropriate. Which is correct.
But then people started getting worked up so they said wear the mask to make them feel like they were "doing something".
Look at the youtube if a doctor with a vape thing and a slew of different masjs and respirators. The vape "smoke" which is just water vapors goes right through every one.
Remember the mini fiasco about the update CDC put out then immediately pulled off ? Did you look at it once it got put back up ? Ill temind you, it said "it MAY BE possible" to catch china cooties by inhaling them. Up until that time it was only touch.
So, yes i believe what the scientists said and demonstrated.
Ill wear one out because its not worth the grief.
But they're useless.

My understanding is that the initial thoughts about masks regarded their effectiveness to stop catching the disease whereas they are an excellent first line weapon for preventing the spread of disease.

Regardless:

Common sense should always prevail no matter what anyone says.

 

[Celticguy]

So you get your medical advice from a youtube video because you think medical professionals are partisan. Okay, got it.

No. As noted, i got it from the CDC and what i already knew about masks in medicine.

 

[Celticguy]

My understanding is that the initial thoughts about masks regarded their effectiveness to stop catching the disease whereas they are an excellent first line weapon for preventing the spread of disease.

Regardless:

Common sense should always prevail no matter what anyone says.

And yet it hasnt. As any nurse in a hospital could tell you.

Who is at higher risk than them ? They know the purpose of the various masks n respirators.
You do yourself FAR more good washing your hands. Gloves are only good if you put them on when you enter a space and toss them when you leave that space. The idea is to not transport from one space to another. My usually smart brother does not grasp this concept.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And yet it hasnt. As any nurse in a hospital could tell you.

Who is at higher risk than them ? They know the purpose of the various masks n respirators.
You do yourself FAR more good washing your hands. Gloves are only good if you put them on when you enter a space and toss them when you leave that space. The idea is to not transport from one space to another. My usually smart brother does not grasp this concept.

Some people are idiots, most people are not. What are the nurses you know saying? I'm related to two.

Yes, no doubt they know the difference in gear needed to work with a COVID patient daily and to minimize spreading COVID in Walmart.

 

[Controlled Opposition]

Except that THIS time the POTUS will actually listen to their recommendations, and issue the appropriate instructions to the people. He won't spend a half an hour daily up at the podium praising himself and quack remedies he heard about on Fox, and denigrating his own physicians and scientists.

Do you suppose that they will recommend anything new? I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so that Biden can take credit for the scientists' work.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Do you suppose that they will recommend anything new? I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so that Biden can take credit for the scientists' work.

Personally I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so people will stop getting sick, dying, overloading the health care system, and infecting others too. It would be wonderful to be able to eat out on a busy Friday night, hop on a plane and see my new g-kid, go to an art fair or a game, and go to school in person again.

 

[Controlled Opposition]

Personally I hope that a vaccine is just around the corner so people will stop getting sick, dying, overloading the health care system, and infecting others too. It would be wonderful to be able to eat out on a busy Friday night, hop on a plane and see my new g-kid, go to an art fair or a game, and go to school in person again.

Yes, to all of the above, especially with the holidays approaching.

 

[Into the Night]

You're misconstruing what a mask mandate is. It's mandated for when you are out in public amongst others. It is NOT mandated if you are out walking your dog, mowing the lawn, hiking on a trail (unless you are hiking in a group of non-household members). The RW media wants to scare and outrage their viewers with lies. Don't let them.

Masks don't stop a virus. There is no need for them.

 

[Into the Night]

Well, it's ridiculous to think that would be the case. You can't enforce stuff like that even if you wanted to. I go outside all the time. You only need masks in public areas. Now if you live in city areas it will be different if you walk right out into busy areas. My brother used to live in an apartment a few blocks down from the Hancock building and stepping out from there would likely need a mask. Heck, I'm sure the apartment complexes public areas would require them.

Masks do not stop a virus. They are not needed.