Democratic Hat Trick: Biden, Schumer, Pelosi

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Well, this was expectable cherry-picking and fear mongering by Gingrich, but then he simply goes off into fantasyland with this: " it is likely the Biden-Schumer-Pelosi team will "pack the court" and create more seats for the U.S. Supreme Court."

That's ridiculous. If he posted that I would immediately ask for something to back it up. Sounds like purely conjured imagination.

Obviously this biased piece is written purely for the purpose of reelecting Trump, and carefully contrived with that goal from the outset.

"Police (if they survive at all) will face ..." - Shameless scare tactic.

Piled higher and deeper: "theft-based economies and might-makes-right will replace the rule of law."

Mixed with more realistic projections:

"The Iran nuclear agreement will be renewed. The United States will rejoin the Paris Accord on Climate Change—and will meet its full funding obligation to the World Health Organization."

Those things sound like a very good idea.

"None of these examples are partisan exaggerations."

That was a bald faced lie.

It's just evidence Newt is a bomb-thrower. Now everyone can see where Trump gets it. Seriously, when did Trump actually do something that isn't a copy of others? Both parties brought us to this point and this journey has been in the works since the Cold War ended. Now We, the People are reaping what we've sown for 30 years.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The problem with using scare tactics to justify allowing Trump a second term is considering the consequences of Trump unleashed.

Dead Americans by the thousands. And he doesn't care about you or anybody else. He only cares about himself, power and wealth.

There is no easy way out. One of these men will be our president for the next 4 years.

It is clearly a case of which is less distasteful.

That's an easy choice.

The man to vote as President is Joe Biden.

Biden can't wave a wand and fix everything no more than Trump can wave a wand and destroy it. It takes Congress to do either. A Democratic Congress, both Senate and House, would have a similar effect to stopping Trump.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Biden can't wave a wand and fix everything no more than Trump can wave a wand and destroy it. It takes Congress to do either. A Democratic Congress, both Senate and House, would have a similar effect to stopping Trump.

Nobody is expecting wand-waving nor instant fixes.

We want somebody who cares about Americans to roll up the shirt sleeves and get to work.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,



Nobody is expecting wand-waving nor instant fixes.

We want somebody who cares about Americans to roll up the shirt sleeves and get to work.

None do, IMO. Some just say they do while others don't care if you and I know they don't care. The results are often the same.

Consider the COVID pandemic; could Congress have imposed whatever they like upon the Trump administration? Yes. Would they likely have done so? No, as the results prove: Congress is about politics first not actually caring about Americans first.

 

[Yakuda]

IF the Democrats manage to take both the White House and the Senate because of Republican blunders, the Democrats will have full control of the reigns of government for the first time in 10 years. The last time they did they the result was Obamacare in the middle of the Great Recession.

The Triumvirate of Biden, Schumer and Pelosi will, no doubt see another Clinton gun ban on the table almost immediately after the election and signed into law by next Spring. There will certainly be other changes as the Democrats seek to jam as much mandatory law down the throats of Americans as they can until the 2022 Midterms since they know the same thing that happened in 2010 will probably happen again.

Despite Newt's fear-mongering and other bullshit, he does make some good points in this article about what a Biden-Schumer-Pelosi Triumvirate would look like:
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-schumer-pelosi-machine-first-year-opinion-1510532
Every time some supposed conservative or Republican explains why he or she can't be for President Donald Trump, I wonder if they have thought about the alternative—the Biden-Schumer-Pelosi machine.

Our choice this fall is not between President Trump and President Perfection. It is between President Trump and a nightmare that would end America as we have known it...

So what you're telling us is those three idiots haven't had a real job for more than 30 years?

 

[Cypress]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Well, this was expectable cherry-picking and fear mongering by Gingrich, but then he simply goes off into fantasyland with this: " it is likely the Biden-Schumer-Pelosi team will "pack the court" and create more seats for the U.S. Supreme Court."

That's ridiculous. If he posted that I would immediately ask for something to back it up. Sounds like purely conjured imagination.

Obviously this biased piece is written purely for the purpose of reelecting Trump, and carefully contrived with that goal from the outset.

"Police (if they survive at all) will face ..." - Shameless scare tactic.

Piled higher and deeper: "theft-based economies and might-makes-right will replace the rule of law."

Mixed with more realistic projections:

"The Iran nuclear agreement will be renewed. The United States will rejoin the Paris Accord on Climate Change—and will meet its full funding obligation to the World Health Organization."

Those things sound like a very good idea.

"None of these examples are partisan exaggerations."

That was a bald faced lie.

It is revealing that no conservative even attempts to defend Trump or articulate a plausible vision for Republican governance.

Their entire party platform comes down to this:

"Sure Trump totally sucks, but Demoncrats are even worse!"

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So what you're telling us is those three idiots haven't had a real job for more than 30 years?

They've had the job, they just haven't done it properly. You know, like Trump.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It is revealing that no conservative even attempts to defend Trump or articulate a plausible vision for Republican governance.

Their entire party platform comes down to this:

"Sure Trump totally sucks, but Demoncrats are even worse!"

That's how voting for the "Lesser of Two Evils" works. If more people voted their conscience, I think we'd be better off. Not just in the election, but in each party.

 

[cawacko]

That's how voting for the "Lesser of Two Evils" works. If more people voted their conscience, I think we'd be better off. Not just in the election, but in each party.

Exactly. Look at all the ABT, Anyone But Trump, folks who say they would vote for a dog catcher for President over Trump. Hardly a ringing endorsement of Joe Biden and Democratic governing principles. It's simply voting against Trump. (people can vote for whomever they want and for whatever reason but don't sit here and proclaim you (not you personally) are so different than everyone else)

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Exactly. Look at all the ABT, Anyone But Trump, folks who say they would vote for a dog catcher for President over Trump. Hardly a ringing endorsement of Joe Biden and Democratic governing principles. It's simply voting against Trump. (people can vote for whomever they want and for whatever reason but don't sit here and proclaim you (not you personally) are so different than everyone else)

Agreed about ABT and dog catchers. That also applies to the 2016 election where it was ABH.

The fact that Joe Biden, most certainly to be a one-term President if he wins, is the best the Democrats have to offer says something all by itself.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Cypress,

It is revealing that no conservative even attempts to defend Trump or articulate a plausible vision for Republican governance.

Their entire party platform comes down to this:

"Sure Trump totally sucks, but Demoncrats are even worse!"

And it works on the cult.

They totally have some very good actors to sell the fear.

Not sure how much distance there is between Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh. It's a short trip.

 

[Cypress]

That's how voting for the "Lesser of Two Evils" works. If more people voted their conscience, I think we'd be better off. Not just in the election, but in each party.

It is partly human nature. People are not inspired by wonky policy prescriptions and nuance. They can be easily swayed by demagogues and fear mongering.

Hope can sell too, but it takes a particularly charismatic candidate, aka Kennedy 1960, Obama 2008.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Cypress,
And it works on the cult.

They totally have some very good actors to sell the fear.

Not sure how much distance there is between Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh. It's a short trip.

Yes, it works on the cult, but Trump wasn't elected by a cult. In fact, his election pissed off a cult.

When both major parties fail to represent the majority of Americans, what is your recommendation for how they should vote in a general election?

My strategy is to vote against the incumbent regardless of party. The only way to weaken powerful political parties is to always vote them out of power until one or both come up with a strategy that represents all Americans and the best interests of the nation.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello cawacko,

Exactly. Look at all the ABT, Anyone But Trump, folks who say they would vote for a dog catcher for President over Trump. Hardly a ringing endorsement of Joe Biden and Democratic governing principles. It's simply voting against Trump. (people can vote for whomever they want and for whatever reason but don't sit here and proclaim you (not you personally) are so different than everyone else)

No way Biden was MY first choice. Very rarely have I actually favored a major candidate. The only time was when I campaigned for Obama. I wanted Bernie, but only if almost everyone else did, too. Bernie would have been a powerless lame duck if he just barely won. A president without a party to back him up in Congress. None of his stuff he campaigned on would happen. That's no good. And plus, that would set the Republicans up for a strong campaign after one term of nothing happening. I'm GLAD we've got Biden. I support Biden. I endorse Joe Biden for President. But he is not my original preference.

You're correct. I am voting AGAINST Trump. You got that right.

In the blink of an eye.

Easy decision.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It is partly human nature. People are not inspired by wonky policy prescriptions and nuance. They can be easily swayed by demagogues and fear mongering.

Hope can sell too, but it takes a particularly charismatic candidate, aka Kennedy 1960, Obama 2008.

Agreed on human nature, disagreed on underestimating people in general. Even retards figure out they are being ridiculed and abused. This is why both Congress and both political parties don't fair well in favorability polls.

Agreed that hope is persuasive, but anyone failing to follow through with that hope will be seen as a low life liar.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...-trust-but-some-positive-performance-ratings/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/24655/party-images.aspx

 

[Yakuda]

They've had the job, they just haven't done it properly. You know, like Trump.

So not a real job in over 30 years. Made a living ducking on the public teet. Fuck them

 

[cawacko]

Hello cawacko,



No way Biden was MY first choice. Very rarely have I actually favored a major candidate. The only time was when I campaigned for Obama. I wanted Bernie, but only if almost everyone else did, too. Bernie would have been a powerless lame duck if he just barely won. A president without a party to back him up in Congress. None of his stuff he campaigned on would happen. That's no good. And plus, that would set the Republicans up for a strong campaign after one term of nothing happening. I'm GLAD we've got Biden. I support Biden. I endorse Joe Biden for President. But he is not my original preference.

You're correct. I am voting AGAINST Trump. You got that right.

In the blink of an eye.

Easy decision.

You can vote for whomever you like for whatever reason. At the end of the day you don't have to justify it to anyone. But it's rather blatantly contradictory to thank a post calling out people voting for Trump because he's not a Democrat and then turn around and say your support for Biden is predicated on voting against Trump.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello cawacko,

You can vote for whomever you like for whatever reason. At the end of the day you don't have to justify it to anyone. But it's rather blatantly contradictory to thank a post calling out people voting for Trump because he's not a Democrat and then turn around and say your support for Biden is predicated on voting against Trump.

Not exactly.

My motivation against Trump is based on his record.

Biden is not currently holding an office. He doesn't have to defend how he handled the current crisis. He didn't downplay a deadly virus.

 

[Minister of Truth]

We do need an amendment to fix the Court at nine justices.

What do you suppose would happen if Kamala Harris gets to appoint six illiberal justices to the Court?

She won't. As it stands, she won't outlive a few of the ones already there.
And if she was elected (slim chance) president, or even takes over for Biden,
she won't get the chance to nominate more than one or two at most.

Can you please learn to read?

My reading comprehension is fine. I answered your question. Again, she won't get that chance. Period.

Sure you can.

 

[cawacko]

Hello cawacko,



Not exactly.

My motivation against Trump is based on his record.

Biden is not currently holding an office. He doesn't have to defend how he handled the current crisis. He didn't downplay a deadly virus.

Pretty hard to argue a person in the Senate for some 40 years and VP for 8 doesn't have a record.