Democrats Falsely Claim Jesus was a Socialist

[Ross Dolan]

You're lost. Nobody in their right mind pays more taxes than they owe willingly. If YOU are...congratulations, please toss in a couple extra bucks for me. Thank-you.

You are full of shit, Stretch.

Many people volunteer their services to municipal needs...first aid squads; fire companies; Planning boards; zoning boards; cultural arts commissions; labor relations boards...and so forth.

THEY ARE VOLUNTARILY PAYING MORE TAXES WITH THEIR LABORS.

 

[Stretch]

You are full of shit, Stretch.

Many people volunteer their services to municipal needs...first aid squads; fire companies; Planning boards; zoning boards; cultural arts commissions; labor relations boards...and so forth.

THEY ARE VOLUNTARILY PAYING MORE TAXES WITH THEIR LABORS.

Apples and oranges...nobody said that there are no volunteers out there. Taxes are paid from salaried work.

 

[countryboy]

Raised in the church, grandma was the organist, mom was the pianist and choir director, sunday school, vacation bible school, the entire doctrination. Par for all your other assumptions pard. What say we give you another chance to calm down and read through this again and see if you can "get" it, k? If the mention of "Che" triggers you, try this:

Jesus is whatever anyone wants to make him out to be, always has been. The bible is about humans being damaged goods merely for being born at all, and then having to submit themselves to an authoritarian male dominator god chain of command or burn in eternity. What a blatant mindfuck, brainwashing at its worst.

The Bible is bery specific, the history of Che Guevara is known, and you are a moron.

 

[hvilleherb]

Then why does our christian nation create to many widows and orphans across the planet? We seem to require a lot of reminding if we're ever going to uptake that bit.

Like it or not we've been chosen to be the world's police.

 

[evince]

Apples and oranges...nobody said that there are no volunteers out there. Taxes are paid from salaried work.

they are paid on commodities also


and profits

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Like it or not we've been chosen to be the world's police.

No, we're doing what empire's typically do in decline.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

The Bible is bery specific, the history of Che Guevara is known, and you are a moron.

Jesus is whatever anyone wants to make him out to be, always has been. The bible is about humans being damaged goods merely for being born at all, and then having to submit themselves to an authoritarian male dominator god chain of command or burn in eternity. What a blatant mindfuck, brainwashing at its worst.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Apples and oranges...nobody said that there are no volunteers out there. Taxes are paid from salaried work.

Horse shit.

A person volunteering time to a municipality...is saving tax dollars. His/her work...is paying more taxes voluntarily.

Wake the hell up.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Horse shit.

A person volunteering time to a municipality...is saving tax dollars. His/her work...is paying more taxes voluntarily.

Wake the hell up.

"Apples and oranges...nobody said that there are no volunteers out there. Taxes are paid from salaried work."

Nice little carve out for the aristocracy there. And yeah, that's how they think.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Fentoine Lum,

I wonder which bill is higher, his taxes? Or his skank payoffs?

I'm sure the SP's are nothing compared to the taxes he has dodged.

 

[kudzu]

The Bible is bery specific, the history of Che Guevara is known, and you are a moron.

Do you think Jesus would have backed a lying, profane man like Donald Trump?

 

[Nordberg]

You're lost. Nobody in their right mind pays more taxes than they owe willingly. If YOU are...congratulations, please toss in a couple extra bucks for me. Thank-you.

Obviously, you don't have higher standards for your presidents. You want them as weasely as you are. I think the president should pay every damn dime to the government that he owes. He should be supporting the military he leads. he should pay part of the cost of his helicopers, and presidents plane. he should help pay for the police and fire dept. that protects him. Tax evasion is a crime and Triump is a criminal, and proud of it. you are the one lost.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

Obviously, you don't have higher standards for your presidents. You want them as weasely as you are. I think the president should pay every damn dime to the government that he owes. He should be supporting the military he leads. he should pay part of the cost of his helicopers, and presidents plane. he should help pay for the police and fire dept. that protects him. Tax evasion is a crime and Triump is a criminal, and proud of it. you are the one lost.

Support the military? When we start to use it for defense again.

 

[Damocles]

Matthew 19:21
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

Matthew 6:2-4
“Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

1 John 3:17
But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?

2 Corinthians 8:13-15
For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened, but that as a matter of fairness your abundance at the present time should supply their need, so that their abundance may supply your need, that there may be fairness. As it is written, “Whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no lack.”

Galatians 6:2
Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.

Luke 3:11
And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”

Matthew 6:24
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

1 Corinthians 10:24
Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor.

Philippians 2:4
Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.

Galatians 5:14
For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Deuteronomy 10:18
He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing.

2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.

Luke 14:13-14
But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”

Leviticus 25:35-38
“If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you. Take no interest from him or profit, but fear your God, that your brother may live beside you. You shall not lend him your money at interest, nor give him your food for profit. I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God.

Proverbs 31:9
Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.

There are hundreds of other passages in the bible that declare the same things which are decidedly socialist.

Trump supporters are claiming to know Jesus?

None of those propound socialism. They talk about your personal responsibility. Government existed in Jesus' supposed time, he could have said it was the responsibility of government but didn't.

You are supposed to help these people personally, it doesn't say, "If your brother is hungry, you should take money from your neighbor and give it to your brother."

These concepts existed, he definitely could have said that panem et circenses is the responsibility of government. But he didn't.

 

[Cypress]

@ post one.

Sheer arrogance and hubris for anyone to presume to speak on behalf of a dude who has been dead for 2,000 years.

The only thing we can say with unequivocal certainty is that Jesus is an avatar for some person who, at the time, was a political and religious radical, who ended up invoking the wrath of the Roman Empire.

The Christine believe in his divinity, for which there is no proof, but which I have to respect as an article of faith.

Islam considers him a great prophet of God, but still merely a man. Not Divine. That makes more sense to me, but I defer to the theologians to sort it out.

I will say that the fundamental liberal philosophy of "we are all in this together" seems more affiliated with the Gospels of the NT more than the basic conservative philosophy of "it's every man for himself!"

Just my two cents.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

None of those propound socialism. They talk about your personal responsibility. Government existed in Jesus' supposed time, he could have said it was the responsibility of government but didn't.

You are supposed to help these people personally, it doesn't say, "If your brother is hungry, you should take money from your neighbor and give it to your brother."

These concepts existed, he definitely could have said that panem et circenses is the responsibility of government. But he didn't.

Kinda tough to argue when your so called govt feed folks to lions for entertainment.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

@ post one.

Sheer arrogance and hubris for anyone to presume to speak on behalf of a dude who has been dead for 2,000 years.

The only thing we can say with unequivocal certainty is that Jesus is an avatar for some person who, at the time, was a political and religious radical, who ended up invoking the wrath of the Roman Empire.

The Christine believe in his divinity, for which there is no proof, but which I have to respect as an article of faith.

Islam considers him a great prophet of God, but still merely a man. Not Divine. That makes more sense to me, but I defer to the theologians to sort it out.

I will say that the fundamental liberal philosophy of "we are all in this together" seems more affiliated with the Gospels of the NT more than the basic conservative philosophy of "it's every man for himself!"

Just my two cents.

Sheer arrogance and hubris for anyone to presume to speak on behalf of a dude who has been dead for 2,000 years.

Yup, and stupid.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Stretch,

You're lost. Nobody in their right mind pays more taxes than they owe willingly. If YOU are...congratulations, please toss in a couple extra bucks for me. Thank-you.

If others do it and you think that is a good thing, but you won't do it, that means you are choosing to not do a good thing. Not good.

How can it be a good thing for others but not for you?

Do you hate paying taxes?

Is that kind of hatred OK?

Is any hatred OK?

Can it be justified by believing that everybody hates the government?

If other people are doing something that is not OK, does that make it OK for you to do it too?

It makes no sense for the populace to hate the government they formed themselves.

The United States is a great country.

We should be proud, as Americans, to pay our taxes and be a loyal part of America.

The country cannot exist, cannot be great, without people paying enough taxes to make it all happen.

That's what Republicans have done on taxes. They prevent America from being great because they gave the rich a totally needless tax cut which is causing the debt to rise during a good economy.

If America cannot get the debt under control then America can't be great.

The debt can only be paid down in a good economy. It cannot be paid down during a recession or a depression.

If Republicans can't manage to reduce the deficit even when the economy is doing very well then when do they expect the debt to be paid down?

When Democrats take over?

Republicans billed themselves as responsible with the budget but we are now approaching $ 1 Billion deficit.

Do you know what that means?

Add a billion to the debt every year. That is not being responsible with the budget.

We should be taxing the rich more.

It is irresponsible to give the rich a tax cut during good economic times.

If we taxed the rich enough there would be no deficit.

Republicans said a rising GDP would replace the lost revenue but that didn't happen. The debt is now out of control.

Everybody knew that was a lie. Republicans were lying to themselves and Republicans were lying to America.

We need to vote Republicans OUT.

 

[Jade Dragon]

None of those propound socialism. They talk about your personal responsibility. Government existed in Jesus' supposed time, he could have said it was the responsibility of government but didn't.

You are supposed to help these people personally, it doesn't say, "If your brother is hungry, you should take money from your neighbor and give it to your brother."

These concepts existed, he definitely could have said that panem et circenses is the responsibility of government. But he didn't.

No it's everyone's responsibility in the word of Christ. Government is the people, and it has the same responsibility as the people. Jesus is about free will, and we don't have to do any of it, but you have to, to follow Christ. So those that say we are a Christian nation should be the ones opting for those type of things, otherwise the nation isn't following Christ. Weird it's the other way around. Jesus is a socialist in that the world belongs to everyone. The world, and greed took that away, and makes you pay for everything. You can't even live off the land without paying for it.

 

[evince]

None of those propound socialism. They talk about your personal responsibility. Government existed in Jesus' supposed time, he could have said it was the responsibility of government but didn't.

You are supposed to help these people personally, it doesn't say, "If your brother is hungry, you should take money from your neighbor and give it to your brother."

These concepts existed, he definitely could have said that panem et circenses is the responsibility of government. But he didn't.

he whipped the money changers not the poor


the governments in his day were run by the religions dude

so yes he thought government should help the poor