Democrats Move to Disenfranchise Voters in 46 States

Uncensored2008 said:
Free and fair elections are the bane of the democratic party. When elections are held without tampering, democrats lose. The Election Integrity laws passed by 11 resulted in democrats having 18 million less votes in 2024 than they did in 2020.

In a naked bid to seize power and a show of contempt for voting rights, the democrat party has moved to disenfranchise voters in the majority of American states. democrats seek to limit voting for president to the 4 most populous states, shutting out voters from the process in what democrats and their press call "fly over country." democrats want California and New York to appoint the president - avoiding the risk of losing elections.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1868747050822910438

The electoral college is a constitutional provision, meaning that this idiocy by Schumer and his fellow thugs is just posturing, it would require a Constitutional Amendment. But democrats are nothing if not stupid - and evil.
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It's about time. Take daylight savings time with you.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Someone has no grasp of ratios and statistical grouping...

Without the EC - 4 states, California, New York, Texas, and Florida would decide every presidential election going forward. The only time other states would have any voice at all is if there were significant conflict among dominant states.

The REASON democrats hate the electoral college is that it gives a voice to "flyover country," and you want to silence that voice. You want to disenfranchise the voters in 46 states. You, like all leftists, seek raw power and will do anything to ensure your party has it.
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States don't get a vote.
 
Yakuda said:
What do you mean by "largest"? Want to guess what the 4 most "populated" states are? Hint: Two of them are blue states and their combined populations are higher than the other two states which are red.
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Hint - the total votes in those 4 states are not over 50% of the total votes in the US. We know this to be true based on the popular vote totals.
In 2020, New York and California only contributed 16.355 million votes to Biden. Biden had over 81 million total votes.

If we eliminate the electoral college system, the winner in the largest 2 states will not necessarily be the winner of the contest. In fact, it will give people more reason to vote in states that always go red or blue since now their votes matter more.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Hint - the total votes in those 4 states are not over 50% of the total votes in the US. We know this to be true based on the popular vote totals.
In 2020, New York and California only contributed 16.355 million votes to Biden. Biden had over 81 million total votes.

If we eliminate the electoral college system, the winner in the largest 2 states will not necessarily be the winner of the contest. In fact, it will give people more reason to vote in states that always go red or blue since now their votes matter more.
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It doesnt have to be it just has to be more one more of the votes tallied.

They don't matter more in a popular vote. In fact they count for more in the EC as every vote determines who the will the state.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Someone has no grasp of ratios and statistical grouping...

Without the EC - 4 states, California, New York, Texas, and Florida would decide every presidential election going forward. The only time other states would have any voice at all is if there were significant conflict among dominant states.

The REASON democrats hate the electoral college is that it gives a voice to "flyover country," and you want to silence that voice. You want to disenfranchise the voters in 46 states. You, like all leftists, seek raw power and will do anything to ensure your party has it.
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You are proving math is really, really, really, really, really hard for you.
Total votes in those 4 states in 2020 were 47,729,289
Total votes in all 50 states plus DC were 155,507,476

Those 4 states are only 31% of the votes cast. In order to win the President a candidate usually needs 48% or more.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Someone has no grasp of ratios and statistical grouping...

Without the EC - 4 states, California, New York, Texas, and Florida would decide every presidential election going forward. The only time other states would have any voice at all is if there were significant conflict among dominant states.

The REASON democrats hate the electoral college is that it gives a voice to "flyover country," and you want to silence that voice. You want to disenfranchise the voters in 46 states. You, like all leftists, seek raw power and will do anything to ensure your party has it.
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What is the ratio of total votes in those 4 states to the total votes?
What is the ratio of votes for candidates compared to vote totals in those states in 2020? 2024?
Is there any combination of smaller states whose vote totals would exceed the vote totals in those 4 states?

I look forward to your actual numbers showing you have a grasp on ratios and statistical grouping.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Hint - the total votes in those 4 states are not over 50% of the total votes in the US. We know this to be true based on the popular vote totals.
In 2020, New York and California only contributed 16.355 million votes to Biden. Biden had over 81 million total votes.

If we eliminate the electoral college system, the winner in the largest 2 states will not necessarily be the winner of the contest. In fact, it will give people more reason to vote in states that always go red or blue since now their votes matter more.
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Even if they were, they'd ALL have to vote the same, in all 4 states, to determine the outcome of the election. That would never, ever, ever, ever happen.
 
ZenMode said:
It's about time. Take daylight savings time with you.
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Daylight savings is something Congress could change.

Disenfranchising most of the nation would require changing the Constitution. You have no chance at it. But the fact that you seek to deny the right to vote for president to the majority of the nation says a lot about you.
 
Yakuda said:
And most state issues IDs are free
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Yes . now look at how far people of color, poorer people have to go to get them in some places, yes it may be to the DMV but in some cases the DMV is across town from the hood and it take a long time to get there.
They should be making it easier for people to get these IDs not harder ,
For people in the area I live in they have to go at least 15 to 20 miles to get to the DMV. why not have several places they can get them? town halls , Police stations and other places.
 
ZenMode said:
States don't get a vote.
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You are abysmally stupid.

States alone cast votes for president.

Our founder, being wise and brilliant men - grasped that the views of people in various states are different. That New York should no more dictate to Main what they think than a family of 20 should be able to dictate to the house on another street what to have for dinner.

Voters in each state decide their choice, then the STATE sends electors to reflect the will of their citizens. California does not get to dictate to Idaho what Idaho voters want - as much as that angers you of the totalitarian side,

Opposition to the electoral college is based on one of two things - complete ignorance - or utter contempt for self-government.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Hint - the total votes in those 4 states are not over 50% of the total votes in the US. We know this to be true based on the popular vote totals.
In 2020, New York and California only contributed 16.355 million votes to Biden. Biden had over 81 million total votes.

If we eliminate the electoral college system, the winner in the largest 2 states will not necessarily be the winner of the contest. In fact, it will give people more reason to vote in states that always go red or blue since now their votes matter more.
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And you are convinced that all states not in the statistical sump will vote as a bloc?

LOL

The reality is that most elections are within a few percentage points in every state - which is why you oppose the EC - knowing that California is the same 52-48 split as other states - but with a population to swamp and drown the voices of other states.

Simply said - you seek to take the right to vote away from 46 states in your lust for raw power.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
You are proving math is really, really, really, really, really hard for you.
Total votes in those 4 states in 2020 were 47,729,289
Total votes in all 50 states plus DC were 155,507,476

Those 4 states are only 31% of the votes cast. In order to win the President a candidate usually needs 48% or more.
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Irrelevant.

It would only matter if the 4 states were diametrical to the other 46.

In fact both "red" and "blue" states tend to be about a 52-48 split - in either direction. You want to destroy the EC so that you can swamp the red states with the shear population mass of California.

Your intent is evil - you seek permanent rule by your party and are willing to end the voting rights of the most states to achieve your lust for power.
 
Tbird19482 said:
yep and make left leaning people go miles away from their homes to vote,
I think that was in MICH.Got to try to make it as difficult as they can for the left wingers.
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We once had a republican leaning precinct where very few (did any?) received their mail in ballots and had to go miles to vote in person at one of two polling places. I live in that precinct , went to vote in person but could see the line stretched around the block and didn't move after about 20 minutes so I didn't vote. Everybody in that line I talked to was from that precinct.
:truestory:
 
Tbird19482 said:
Yes . now look at how far people of color, poorer people have to go to get them in some places, yes it may be to the DMV but in some cases the DMV is across town from the hood and it take a long time to get there.
They should be making it easier for people to get these IDs not harder ,
For people in the area I live in they have to go at least 15 to 20 miles to get to the DMV. why not have several places they can get them? town halls , Police stations and other places.
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gosh, all the way to a DMV?........are you one if those libe'rul cunts that think blacks aren't smart enough to get an ID?
 
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