Democrats unveiled their border security plan, totaling almost $22 billion

floridafan said:
Yu will never get a wall. its unneeded, furthermore all trump does is lie about the reasons it is needed. The vast majority of Americans do not want a wall. Now why is chain migration so bad? Can you answer that?
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Should we tear down the walls we do have if they are unneeded?
 
#MAGA said:
Should we tear down the walls we do have if they are unneeded?
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we don't need a $70 billion expenditure for a wall from sea to sea. It aint ever gonna happen.
All you do is fucking lie every day over the reason it is needed. One pathetic lie after another.
 
Here is a snapshot of the Democrats border security plan.
"By the numbers
The Democratic proposal did include:
About $22 billion in total funding for Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement
$675 million for scanners at points of entry
$502 million for "humanitarian concerns at the border" such as food and medical care
$400 million in border security technology, 1,000 new customs agents
$156.7 million for new boats, planes and sensors."


Isn't it funny that they consider "humanitarian concerns at the border" more important than border security technology?

How about 1,000 new Border Patrol agents in the field that stop illegals instead of 1,000 new suitcase/contraband checkers?


But at least it's a start.
 
floridafan said:
we don't need a $70 billion expenditure for a wall from sea to sea. It aint ever gonna happen.
All you do is fucking lie every day over the reason it is needed. One pathetic lie after another.
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What about the walls we do have? Do we need them? Do they work?

Simple questions
 
Grumpy said:
Here is a snapshot of the Democrats border security plan.
"By the numbers
The Democratic proposal did include:
About $22 billion in total funding for Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement
$675 million for scanners at points of entry
$502 million for "humanitarian concerns at the border" such as food and medical care
$400 million in border security technology, 1,000 new customs agents
$156.7 million for new boats, planes and sensors."


Isn't it funny that they consider "humanitarian concerns at the border" more important than border security technology?

How about 1,000 new Border Patrol agents in the field that stop illegals instead of 1,000 new suitcase/contraband checkers?


But at least it's a start.
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They aren’t serious about stopping illegal immigration.

Slowly that is becoming clear to Americans.

Patience.
 
floridafan said:
Yu will never get a wall. its unneeded, furthermore all trump does is lie about the reasons it is needed. The vast majority of Americans do not want a wall. Now why is chain migration so bad? Can you answer that?
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The vast majority of border patrol agents say we do need a physical barrier in more places. I'd be curious to know what percentage of Americans you consider to be a "vast majority".
 
Sirthinksalot said:
The vast majority of border patrol agents say we do need a physical barrier in more places. I'd be curious to know what percentage of Americans you consider to be a "vast majority".
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close to 70%, along with the mayor of McAllen Tx, along with 17 of the 19 members of congress whose districts cover the southern border.
 
floridafan said:
Dont know and neither do you. All you have are lies.
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This whole fence/wall thing has turned into nothing but a political argument. So the lies flow like water from both sides!

My suggestion is get the best and brightest security experts both civilian and government to devise a plan for a workable border security system. It could include physical barriers, electronic surveillance, drones, etc. and foremost get the f-ing politics out of it.
 
Grumpy said:
This whole fence/wall thing has turned into nothing but a political argument. So the lies flow like water from both sides!

My suggestion is get the best and brightest security experts both civilian and government to devise a plan for a workable border security system. It could include physical barriers, electronic surveillance, drones, etc. and foremost get the f-ing politics out of it.
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You know very well that the lies only come from the Trump side
 
#MAGA said:
Really you don’t know if they work yet you can confidently say the additional walls Trump wants to build won’t?

Do you not see the inconsistency there?
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No one seems to want them but trump. I dont see people standing in line demanding a wall.
 
floridafan said:
You know very well that the lies only come from the Trump side
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When it comes to people like you this says it best.


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floridafan said:
It must not be very important to the military or the intelligence community, or Congress, or law enforcement only to Trump, and to make his case he must lie about almost everything.
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Still not an argument

And you have yet to give your thoughts on the existing walls.

Let me ask another way. If a hole were cut through existing walls would you support fixing it?
 
#MAGA said:
Still not an argument

And you have yet to give your thoughts on the existing walls.

Let me ask another way. If a hole were cut through existing walls would you support fixing it?
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Why isn't it an argument when no one but Trump wants a wall. If this was a true national emergency everyone would want it built. No one wants it but Trump, that's Kina strange.
 
floridafan said:
Maybe you can list for us the lies Democrats have told about the wall?
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Where would you like me to start?

We don't need a wall.
A wall won't stop people.
We can do the same thing with drones.
The Border Patrol is against the wall.
We will never fund a wall.

I could go on but you wouldn't listen anyway.
 
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