denying felons the right to vote is unconstitutional

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AMENDMENT XIII - Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

AMENDMENT XV - Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--
 
SmarterthanYou said:
AMENDMENT XIII - Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

AMENDMENT XV - Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--
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Are you suggesting that being in prison is "involuntary servitude"?
 
I don't know about what's constitutional, because I obviously don't give a fat flying fuck about our amateurishly written constitution,

but felons who've done their time shouldn't have any restrictions--voting, forearms ownership, offender registries, anything at all.

People need to be rehabilitated, and if that isn't possible, then they need to be humanely euthanized, not for punishment but for social expediency.

Everything else is bullshit.

Why is this country so fucking stupid?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I don't know about what's constitutional, because I obviously don't give a fat flying fuck about our amateurishly written constitution,

but felons who've done their time shouldn't have any restrictions--voting, forearms ownership, offender registries, anything at all.

People need to be rehabilitated, and if that isn't possible, then they need to be humanely euthanized, not for punishment but for social expediency.

Everything else is bullshit.

Why is this country so fucking stupid?
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Because it has retarded assholes like you in it.
 
Yakuda said:
Because it has retarded assholes like you in it.
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You're deficient, YAK, and because you're so pathetically deficient, you can't possibly realize how deficient you are.

But really, you're seriously stupid, and you use this forum to broadcast the fact to the world.

Were your parents heavy drug users? I'm not sure if one can fuck himself up that badly without genetic help.
 
They are still citizens and should vote. The politicians affect their lives too. They do not vote in many states because they think they might vote democratic. It is another tool of oppression.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
AMENDMENT XIII - Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

AMENDMENT XV - Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--
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Not unconstitutional. The 13th amendment clearly specifies PREVIOUS servitude, not CURRENT servitude.
 
Nordberg said:
They are still citizens and should vote. The politicians affect their lives too. They do not vote in many states because they think they might vote democratic. It is another tool of oppression.
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No. They are prisoners. They are not citizens until they have completed their sentence.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
AMENDMENT XIII - Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

AMENDMENT XV - Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--
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Agreed. In fact, anyone who as fulfilled their sentence should have a restoration of all rights.
 
Into the Night said:
No. They are prisoners. They are not citizens until they have completed their sentence.
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That is as usual, flat-out wrong. Citizenship is the most secure status you can get, It requires an act of treason, renouncing the country, joining an enemy army in combat, and ,like Trump, starting an insurrection. They do NOT lose citizenship status. Some states presume the power to take away some of their rights. Citizenship is not one of them.
 
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