DEVOS PROTECTED FEMALE ATHLETICS; BIDEN HAS DESTROYED THEM

Hoosier Daddy said:
fuck you. who died and made you hall monitor, bitch? answer the questions, punk. quit spewing nonsensical replies trying to deflect the fact you do not have a fucking clue about anything you post.
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Do you read your posts and ever wonder why no one takes you seriously? Can't you just discuss this?
 
TOP said:
Do you read your posts and ever wonder why no one takes you seriously? Can't you just discuss this?
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fuck you. here is a replay of what happened and you say i am the one out of line, you partisan biased piece of shit? you trump stooges are lying assholes.

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Liar, the Revolution has made Make America Trans one of its highest priorities. Why that is should be being talked about here but sadly it is not but this is most certainly not some back water conversation topic as you claim.

Do you actually know better?

Is this you lying again?

my reply to him calling me a liar.-

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What revolution? Do you really think even transsexuals care if anybody else is? what the hell are you spewing? that is as stupid as believing masks do not work, as believing there was any state affected by any voter fraud enough to change its outcome. why are you so gullible and easily played?


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We already have one question mark specialist, we dont need another.

Make Statements.

my reply since this bitch won't even try to explain what Revolution or what person wants to make America trans as a priority....dumbass....

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fuck you. who died and made you hall monitor, bitch? answer the questions, punk. quit spewing nonsensical replies trying to deflect the fact you do not have a fucking clue about anything you post.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
fuck you. here is a replay of what happened and you say i am the one out of line, you partisan biased piece of shit? you trump stooges are lying assholes.

Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
Liar, the Revolution has made Make America Trans one of its highest priorities. Why that is should be being talked about here but sadly it is not but this is most certainly not some back water conversation topic as you claim.

Do you actually know better?

Is this you lying again?

my reply to him calling me a liar.-

Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
What revolution? Do you really think even transsexuals care if anybody else is? what the hell are you spewing? that is as stupid as believing masks do not work, as believing there was any state affected by any voter fraud enough to change its outcome. why are you so gullible and easily played?


Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
We already have one question mark specialist, we dont need another.

Make Statements.

my reply since this bitch won't even try to explain what Revolution or what person wants to make America trans as a priority....dumbass....

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fuck you. who died and made you hall monitor, bitch? answer the questions, punk. quit spewing nonsensical replies trying to deflect the fact you do not have a fucking clue about anything you post.
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I rest my case...Let's discuss the topic...ok? Should a biological male be allowed to compete against the biological girls? Joe says yes. I say no. What say you?
 
TOP said:
I rest y case...Let's discuss the topic...ok? Should a biological male be allowed to compete against the biological girls? Joe says yes. I say no. What say you?
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first off, the EO was really about making sure trans people have the same rights in public, in business, in education, as anybody else. the fact that you and other goons focus on the extremely weird possibility some boy will go thru a sex change so he can play against girls proves what silly ass clowns you are. i have already explained that the NCAA and Olympics ban males from female sports UNLESS they have a lowered hormone count for at least a year before competing, and this EO does not affect that, proves you are just goofy ass weirdos trying to nitpick whatever biden does.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
first off, the EO was really about making sure trans people have the same rights in public, in business, in education, as anybody else. the fact that you and other goons focus on the extremely weird possibility some boy will go thru a sex change so he can play against girls proves what silly ass clowns you are. i have already explained that the NCAA and Olympics ban males from female sports UNLESS they have a lowered hormone count for at least a year before competing, and this EO does not affect that, proves you are just goofy ass weirdos trying to nitpick whatever biden does.
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So, they shouldn't be able to compete at any level....is that what you're saying? There should be no "UNLESS"....
If you're absolutely the best candidate and qualified for the job, you should have the same rights....so why the EO?
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
no. here are the facts-

The claim: Biden's executive order says transgender female athletes must be allowed to compete against women and is tied to federal funding
Since taking office on Jan. 20, President Joe Biden has issued a flurry of executive orders, including one that is aimed at preventing discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation and prohibiting workplace discrimination in the federal government.

While the move was celebrated by LGBTQ advocates, the announcement brought forth criticism from some conservatives on social media, with claims that the order threatens women's rights. Critics protested with the hashtag #BidenErasedWomen.

A Facebook post shared on Jan. 23 claims Biden ordered schools to allow transgender athletes to play in women's sports.

"This is insane. A Biden Executive order call for Transgenders to be included in Women's sports," reads a post from “Students for Trump” founder Ryan Fournier, which has been posted to Facebook as a screenshot by a Facebook user.

The executive order explained
The “Executive Order on Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation” calls for a broader application of last year's Supreme Court Bostock v. Clayton County ruling, which mandated that LGBTQ people are protected from sex discrimination in the workplace.

The majority opinion held that, “It is impossible to discriminate against a person for being homosexual or transgender without discriminating against that individual based on sex.”

The order builds on the landmark ruling and directs federal agencies to extend protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression, and calls for the Supreme Court ruling to apply to Title IX, the federal law that prohibits discrimination in federally funded schools.

Under "Bostock's reasoning," Title IX, the Fair Housing Act and Section 412 of the Immigration and Nationality Act “prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation, so long as the laws do not contain sufficient indications to the contrary.”

"Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love," Biden's executive order reads. "Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports."

The order states that discrimination against LGBTQ people "overlaps with other forms of prohibited discrimination, including discrimination on the basis of race or disability," as spelled out in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The executive order does not tie an education institution's federal funding to allowing biological male athletes access to women's sports teams and scholarships, the White House said in a statement issued to USA TODAY.

The order mandates that all students, including transgender students, be able to learn without facing sex discrimination, and as part of that, transgender women should compete on female teams, according to the statement.

Transgender athletes at college and Olympic levels
The executive order does not address athletics beyond the mention of discrimination in "school sports." Further, transgender amateur athletes already have policies they must follow in order to compete.

According to the National Collegiate Athletic Association, which oversees 24 sports at over 1,000 colleges and universities, gender confirming surgery or legal recognition of a player's transitioned sex is not required in order for transgender players to participate on a team.

When hormones are used, the NCAA requires one year of hormone treatment for trans female athletes prior to competing on a women's team, and trans male athletes remain eligible to compete in women's sports until the athlete begins a physical transition using testosterone.

In November 2015, the International Olympic Committee agreed that those who transition from female to male are able to compete in male sports without restriction.

Those who transition from male to female are able to compete in the women's category after declaring the gender identity of female, which cannot be changed for a minimum of four years; and demonstrating testosterone levels below a specific level for at least 12 months before their first competition and then throughout the eligibility period.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mination-transgender-women-sports/6686171002/
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basically this article is double speak........it says the order broadens application of transexual rights to participate in high school sports........then says nothing is going to change because there are restrictions in place.......how can you pretend that the broadening of rights will not compel schools to change those very restrictions?.....
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
why not? there are medical requirements set to help level the playing field. but why are right wingers so quick to try and think this executive order was more than just barely connected to the incredibly few examples of boys and young males who want to dress and act like women and who also want to play sports? the focus is on equal rights in the workplace, in the public sector, as federal law provides for other minorities.
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there is no reason not to laugh at "to help level the playing field" when you are intentionally creating a playing field that is unlevel.......
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
well, my point is, it is rare for any boy or man to want to do what it takes to change their sexual identity....AND THE ODDS OF THEM ALSO WANTING TO COMPETE IN SPORTS MAKES IT ALMOST NON-EXISTENT, and it even more rare for a boy or man to do something so drastic JUST SO HE CAN BE GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY ON A GIRL'S TEAM. IT'S LOONY TUNE.
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why not make sure they have adequate psychological help instead of enabling them by putting them on a girl's sports field?.....
 
AProudLefty said:
Those aren't transwomen. And men have been exposing themselves to people since the dawn of mankind, dumbass.
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Women expose themselves too, Black Cat ! Where I live they have "Free the Nipple" days that are staged in public parks. It's a kind of half - assed, feminist thing. They've got a "bee in their bonnet" because it's legal for men to walk around without a shirt on, which they often do here because I live in a sub-tropical region of Australia where it frequently gets very hot and humid in Spring and Summer. But it is not legal for women to do the same thing. So, they protest this injustice by staging "Free the Nipple" protests in parks on the weekend where they all go topless. At the last FTN day I saw, there were about 200 odd topless, "Free the Nipple" campaigners in this local park. But what made me laugh is that there were about 300+ male "supporters" of the movement mingling with them at close quarters in the same space ! :) :)




Also, we have topless barber shops, where topless girls with big boobs cut your hair. It's more expensive than a traditional barber shop. But it's fun, so that's where I have my hair cut - at the topless barber shop. So, there's another example of women exposing themselves for you !




BTW, tell us, black cat, are you transgender/transexual ? And do you expose yourself ?



Dachshund
 
Dachshund said:
Women expose themselves too, Black Cat ! Where I live they have "Free the Nipple" days that are staged in public parks. It's a kind of half - assed, feminist thing. They've got a "bee in their bonnet" because it's legal for men to walk around without a shirt on, which they often do here because I live in a sub-tropical region of Australia where it frequently gets very hot and humid in Spring and Summer. But it is not legal for women to do the same thing. So, they protest this injustice by staging "Free the Nipple" protests in parks on the weekend where they all go topless. At the last FTN day I saw, there were about 200 odd topless, "Free the Nipple" campaigners in this local park. But what made me laugh is that there were about 300+ male "supporters" of the movement mingling with them at close quarters in the same space ! :) :)




Also, we have topless barber shops, where topless girls with big boobs cut your hair. It's more expensive than a traditional barber shop. But it's fun, so that's where I have my hair cut - at the topless barber shop. So, there's another example of women exposing themselves for you !




BTW, tell us, black cat, are you transgender/transexual ? And do you expose yourself ?



Dachshund
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I am a transalien and I have no genitals.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
imagine how stupid you have to be to believe there is more than 20 athletic, competitive young males in this country who would undergo a sex change, take hormones to keep his estrogen below a certain limit for at least a year before being able to compete, so he could make the girl's volleyball team and kick some ass.

YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON.
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Trans women retain athletic edge after a year of hormone therapy, study finds

For the first two years after starting hormones, the trans women in their review were able to do 10 percent more pushups and 6 percent more situps than their cisgender female counterparts. After two years, Roberts told NBC News, “they were fairly equivalent to the cisgender women.”

Their running times declined as well, but two years on, trans women were still 12 percent faster on the 1.5 mile-run than their cisgender peers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc...dge-after-year-hormone-therapy-study-n1252764




Under the current IOC guidelines, issued in November 2015, athletes who transition from male to female can compete in the women’s category without requiring surgery to remove their testes provided their total testosterone level in serum is kept below 10 nanomoles per litre for at least 12 months.



Those guidelines, used by most sports federations to draw up their transgender policies, have proved controversial, given that women’s testosterone levels tend to range between 0.12 and 1.79 nmol/l, while men’s are typically between 7.7 to 29.4 nmol/l.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/sep/24/ioc-delays-new-transgender-guidelines-2020-olympics


so they can compete with a level of 9 nanomoles per litre while a girls level is just between 0.12 and 1.79 nmol/l

a level of 9.0 vs a level of 0.98

12 percent faster

and u call that fair...
 
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