Did the universe have an absolute beginning, or is it eternal?

why does it matter in your smart person world?
The origin of the universe is an interesting question to anyone who is not a crack addict or ninth grade drop out.
keeps you from doing real work
I'm retired and don't have to concern myself with a job.
and ignoring actual morality?
I have deliberately invested time reading the moral philosophies of Plato, Aristotle, Kant, Jesus, Confucius, Laozi, Sidartha Buddha. Which moral philosophers have you read?
 
The origin of the universe is an interesting question to anyone who is not a crack addict or ninth grade drop out.

I'm retired and don't have to concern myself with a job.

I have deliberately invested time reading the moral philosophies of Plato, Aristotle, Kant, Jesus, Confucius, Laozi, Sidartha Buddha. Which moral philosophers have you read?
it's not as interesting or important as everyday morality.

wow. you're quite superior aren't you?

all your efforts have only made you dumber some how.

you still don't know what;s important, and that's lesson 1.
 
The Borde–Guth–Vilenkin (BGV) theorem is a theorem in physical cosmology which deduces that any universe that has, on average, been expanding throughout its history cannot be infinite in the past but must have a past spacetime boundary.

The Beginning of the Universe

By Alexander Vilenkin

The question remains whether the big bang was truly the beginning of the universe. A beginning in what? Caused by what? And determined by what, or whom? These questions have prompted physicists to make every attempt to avoid a cosmic beginning.

In this essay, I review where we now stand.

An Unaddressable Mystery

The answer to the question, “Did the universe have a beginning?” is, “It probably did.” We have no viable models of an eternal universe. The BGV theorem gives us reason to believe that such models simply cannot be constructed.

When physicists or theologians ask me about the BGV theorem, I am happy to oblige. But my own view is that the theorem does not tell us anything about the existence of God. A deep mystery remains. The laws of physics that describe the quantum creation of the universe also describe its evolution. This seems to suggest that they have some independent existence.

What exactly this means, we don’t know.

And why are these laws the ones we have? Why not other laws?

We have no way to begin to address this mystery.


Universe is a balancing example of compounding eternal changes combined in periodic elements and/or ancestral chromosomes to streaming DNA results occupying time daily never same shape as its original fertilized cell as evolving forward occupying time so far each universal position and any ancestral lineages of multiple generation gaps of an ever changing population never duplicating a previous ancestor so far.

Eternity is this physical dividing point of the kinetic combinations that have been existed and existing so far. Just because intellectual minds within this species created an international dateline labeling 7 days a week 52 times a planetary revolution around a specific star in a specific galaxy doesn't alter the actual way life happens eternally separated now.

Just corrupts every generation honoring the idea now isn't eternity.
 
Universe is a balancing example of compounding eternal changes combined in periodic elements and/or ancestral chromosomes to streaming DNA results occupying time daily never same shape as its original fertilized cell as evolving forward occupying time so far each universal position and any ancestral lineages of multiple generation gaps of an ever changing population never duplicating a previous ancestor so far.

Eternity is this physical dividing point of the kinetic combinations that have been existed and existing so far. Just because intellectual minds within this species created an international dateline labeling 7 days a week 52 times a planetary revolution around a specific star in a specific galaxy doesn't alter the actual way life happens eternally separated now.

Just corrupts every generation honoring the idea now isn't eternity.
we should have known.
 
we should have known.
Plausible deniability doesn't float in my brain. Your social generated mantra stays on message no matter what is explained in absolute way evolving works in series parallel positions of ancestry occupying time daily.
 
Plausible deniability doesn't float in my brain. Your social generated mantra stays on message no matter what is explained in absolute way evolving works in series parallel positions of ancestry occupying time daily.
you're the on message drone spewing your nihilism.
:truestory:

you're way dumber than me.
 
you're the on message drone spewing your nihilism.
:truestory:

you're way dumber than me.
Stick with typecasting and stereotyping anyone not agreeing with your mind's eye of how evolving should work as intellectually designed by malcontents equally alive now pretending to be exceptions to natural time evolving in plain sight.

Reasonable doubt lost its persuasion of power.
 
Universe is a balancing example of compounding eternal changes combined in periodic elements and/or ancestral chromosomes to streaming DNA results occupying time daily never same shape as its original fertilized cell as evolving forward occupying time so far each universal position and any ancestral lineages of multiple generation gaps of an ever changing population never duplicating a previous ancestor so far.

Eternity is this physical dividing point of the kinetic combinations that have been existed and existing so far. Just because intellectual minds within this species created an international dateline labeling 7 days a week 52 times a planetary revolution around a specific star in a specific galaxy doesn't alter the actual way life happens eternally separated now.

Just corrupts every generation honoring the idea now isn't eternity.
Now you no longer live in our clear, rational world; you live in the ancient nightmare world, the world of square roots of minus one.

But under the umbrella, in the raspberry universe, they were immortal. What did it matter that in another far-away universe people would be killing each other?
 
Now you no longer live in our clear, rational world; you live in the ancient nightmare world, the world of square roots of minus one.

But under the umbrella, in the raspberry universe, they were immortal. What did it matter that in another far-away universe people would be killing each other?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Vocabulary is a tool to communicate among the living brains sharing time evolving as eternally separated so far as genetics never duplicates a reproduction added since inception of the ancestral lineages alive today to each generation gap still living siblings of the 5 ancestral lineages evolved native to this atmosphere. Google how many separate races existed since history recorded human behavior ignoring now is eternity regardless which universal location located at now.

Social minds only obey ideas life isn't limited to living equally eternally separated in the moment here every lifetime is an ever changing form never same shape as their original fertilized cell keeping each uniquely positioned daily.
 
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Vocabulary is a tool to communicate among the living brains sharing time evolving as eternally separated so far as genetics never duplicates a reproduction added since inception of the ancestral lineages alive today to each generation gap still living siblings of the 5 ancestral lineages evolved native to this atmosphere. Google how many separate races existed since history recorded human behavior ignoring now is eternity regardless which universal location located at now.

Social minds only obey ideas life isn't limited to living equally eternally separated in the moment here every lifetime is an ever changing form never same shape as their original fertilized cell keeping each uniquely positioned daily.
You’re mocking me?
“You’ve fewer emeralds of madness
than a beggar kopecks, there’s no disproving this!”
But remember
Pompeii came to end thus
When somebody teased Vesuvius!

Hey!
Gentlemen!
You care for
Sacrilege,
Crime
And war.
But have you seen
The frightening terror
Of my face
When
It’s
Perfectly calm?
 
You’re mocking me?
“You’ve fewer emeralds of madness
than a beggar kopecks, there’s no disproving this!”
But remember
Pompeii came to end thus
When somebody teased Vesuvius!

Hey!
Gentlemen!
You care for
Sacrilege,
Crime
And war.
But have you seen
The frightening terror
Of my face
When
It’s
Perfectly calm?
No I am not mocking you, I am explaining the natural process of evolving as ancestrally displaced daily specifically one of a kind equally alive now.
You direct social behavior by relative time logistics which adds 3 minutes and 4 seconds to each rotation of the planet longer than the specific 23hours, 56 minutes and 4 seconds it takes to complete naturally and humanity operates power of suggesting living isn't self evident time adapting since conceived to replace the 30 people that were one's specific 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 16 great great grandparent when you were born to replace them and since birth you either became 1 of 2 biological parents or not.
 
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