Didnt pay for firefighting service: house burns!

ZappasGuitar said:
And you know this how exactly?

The firefighters couldn't be bothered to risk their lives for someone else's property...what makes you so sure they rush in to save the life of someone who couldn't be bothered to pay for their services?

And yeah...there is SUBSTANTIAL risk associated with standing fifty feet from a fire and spraying it with water. They might get hit by a flying ember and get a blister...those poor, fearful firefighters.
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I know it from your previous posts in this thread and from the fact that we are required to work to save the lives of people in structures, even if they aren't in our district. We have the gear, we have the training, we are required to do it.

And standing "fifty feet" away and spraying the house with water would not have saved the structure. You have a fundamental disconnect because of your ignorance. If you could save a structure by doing that no fire fighters would ever enter a structure without people inside.

And again, the man himself didn't care enough about the stuff to protect it why should fire fighters risk their lives to save things?

Your ignorance has made you stupid, and you do not even care to try to solve it.

Again, you would be one of the idiots spitting on fire fighters after a structure is deemed unsalvageable and they stand by to protect from spread but do nothing to "save" the structure.
 
Yurt said:
what a whiner....too funny how you don't mention your sexually perverted neg rep to me before i neg repped you

still the same ol' snarla....you and onceler should get a room so the board doesn't have to listen to you two whine about neg reps
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They don't need a room, just a phone :clink:
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And you know this how exactly?

The firefighters couldn't be bothered to risk their lives for someone else's property...what makes you so sure they rush in to save the life of someone who couldn't be bothered to pay for their services?

And yeah...there is SUBSTANTIAL risk associated with standing fifty feet from a fire and spraying it with water. They might get hit by a flying ember and get a blister...those poor, fearful firefighters.
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Just doing a quick google search I found a site that said 66 fire fighters lost their lives so far this year in the line of duty. That isn't a large number but to say they might get a blister seems pretty dismissive of the dangers they face.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And you know this how exactly?

The firefighters couldn't be bothered to risk their lives for someone else's property...what makes you so sure they rush in to save the life of someone who couldn't be bothered to pay for their services?
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because in the political sense, the mayor and council would be on solid footing when defending the firing of the firefighters putting out the house. Much less so if they fired them for running in to save a life.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
That's right...run away when you know you've got no answer...

So maybe you'll answer this one...what would Buddha have done?
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Because I am a fire fighter, dinkus. If you can't gather that after reading this thread you are thicker than I thought. It is a fact that we are required to work to save the lives of PEOPLE in structures at any site we show up to. We have the gear, we have the training, we are required to do it.

And standing "fifty feet" away and spraying the house with water would not have saved the structure. You have a fundamental disconnect because of your ignorance. If you could save a structure by doing that no fire fighters would ever enter a structure without people inside.

And again, the man himself didn't care enough about the stuff to protect it why should fire fighters risk their lives to save things?

Your ignorance has made you stupid, and you do not even care to try to solve it.

Again, you would be one of the idiots spitting on fire fighters after a structure is deemed unsalvageable and they stand by to protect from spread but do nothing to "save" the structure.

Fire fighters work to save lives first, structures and stuff is secondary to that. Flat out, your stuff just isn't important enough to risk lives for, especially if you don't care enough to cover it with even a minimal fee.
 
Damocles said:
Buddha would have told you that life is important, not things.
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You couldn't have told me sooner?

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Damocles said:
Because I am a fire fighter, dinkus. If you can't gather that after reading this thread you are thicker than I thought. It is a fact that we are required to work to save the lives of PEOPLE in structures at any site we show up to. We have the gear, we have the training, we are required to do it.

And standing "fifty feet" away and spraying the house with water would not have saved the structure. You have a fundamental disconnect because of your ignorance. If you could save a structure by doing that no fire fighters would ever enter a structure without people inside.

And again, the man himself didn't care enough about the stuff to protect it why should fire fighters risk their lives to save things?

Your ignorance has made you stupid, and you do not even care to try to solve it.

Again, you would be one of the idiots spitting on fire fighters after a structure is deemed unsalvageable and they stand by to protect from spread but do nothing to "save" the structure.

Fire fighters work to save lives first, structures and stuff is secondary to that. Flat out, your stuff just isn't important enough to risk lives for, especially if you don't care enough to cover it with even a minimal fee.
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And here we go...Damo is in his natural environment when he gets to constantly berate another for being "ignorant".

Sometimes I think he derives no greater joy than belittle someone with his "ignorant' label.

And yes, I would gladly spit on ANY fire"fighter" who would refuse to do his job due to non-payment of some pittance like $75.00.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And here we go...Damo is in his natural environment when he gets to constantly berate another for being "ignorant".

Sometimes I think he derives no greater joy than belittle someone with his "ignorant' label.

And yes, I would gladly spit on ANY fire"fighter" who would refuse to do his job due to non-payment of some pittance like $75.00.
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And Zappa in his natural environment of ignorance gets to consistently whine about the "abuse" rather than try to resolve the actual ignorance. It is never the job of a fire fighter to give his life for your stuff. Your spit would have as much effect as the stupid idea of spouting water onto a fully involved structure. It wouldn't have saved the structure, can actually cause the spread you are there to protect from (yeah, sometimes throwing water at it doesn't solve the problem any more than throwing money at it.)

And lastly, the man didn't believe his stuff was important enough to protect, why should the fire fighters put their lives on the line for his stuff? So you won't abuse them with ignorance?
 
Damocles said:
Because I am a fire fighter, dinkus. If you can't gather that after reading this thread you are thicker than I thought. It is a fact that we are required to work to save the lives of PEOPLE in structures at any site we show up to. We have the gear, we have the training, we are required to do it.

And standing "fifty feet" away and spraying the house with water would not have saved the structure. You have a fundamental disconnect because of your ignorance. If you could save a structure by doing that no fire fighters would ever enter a structure without people inside.

And again, the man himself didn't care enough about the stuff to protect it why should fire fighters risk their lives to save things?

Your ignorance has made you stupid, and you do not even care to try to solve it.

Again, you would be one of the idiots spitting on fire fighters after a structure is deemed unsalvageable and they stand by to protect from spread but do nothing to "save" the structure.

Fire fighters work to save lives first, structures and stuff is secondary to that. Flat out, your stuff just isn't important enough to risk lives for, especially if you don't care enough to cover it with even a minimal fee.
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pssst!!! s'cuse me. can you move over? I am trying to get in here...s'cuse me??!!!

"Because I am a fire fighter, dinkus. If you can't gather that after reading this thread you are thicker than I thought"


I've seen Zap. He's even thicker than EVERYBODY thought!!!
 
Ice Dancer you haven't convinced anybody besides your own toes that it wasn't a private service that was offered.

The fact that you don't even know the definition of municipality makes your arguments void.

To the others on this thread - when exactly are employees supposed to know that they should be "breaking the rules" and in what situations should they be "following the rules"....

It seems pretty arbitrary, and NO your own personal thinking doesn't count as a rationale explanation.

CK
 
The fact of the matter is this was a private service being offered to the home owners. This particular person refused the service, therefore his house burned.

Its private enterprise - cash for service. Now that conservatives see how things work in the REAL WORLD, they don't seem to like it so much.

Cause the fact of the matter is private enterprise and the "market" doesn't work for alot of things - including education, healthcare, public transportation, police and fire services, government, etc....

CK
 
Damocles said:
And Zappa in his natural environment of ignorance gets to consistently whine about the "abuse" rather than try to resolve the actual ignorance. It is never the job of a fire fighter to give his life for your stuff. Your spit would have as much effect as the stupid idea of spouting water onto a fully involved structure. It wouldn't have saved the structure, can actually cause the spread you are there to protect from (yeah, sometimes throwing water at it doesn't solve the problem any more than throwing money at it.)

And lastly, the man didn't believe his stuff was important enough to protect, why should the fire fighters put their lives on the line for his stuff? So you won't abuse them with ignorance?
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Make whatever excuses you have to to explain away your refusal to help your fellow man during his hour of need.

Pretty pathetic display of compassion.

I understand...you got yours, so FUCK that guy and his family.
 
CanadianKid said:
The fact of the matter is this was a private service being offered to the home owners. This particular person refused the service, therefore his house burned.

Its private enterprise - cash for service. Now that conservatives see how things work in the REAL WORLD, they don't seem to like it so much.

Cause the fact of the matter is private enterprise and the "market" doesn't work for alot of things - including education, healthcare, public transportation, police and fire services, government, etc....

CK
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Who here doesn't like it CK?
 
CanadianKid said:
The fact of the matter is this was a private service being offered to the home owners. This particular person refused the service, therefore his house burned.

Its private enterprise - cash for service. Now that conservatives see how things work in the REAL WORLD, they don't seem to like it so much.

Cause the fact of the matter is private enterprise and the "market" doesn't work for alot of things - including education, healthcare, public transportation, police and fire services, government, etc....

CK
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the fact of the matter is you're wrong. This was a CITY fire department, not a private one. Get that?!?!?!?!? CITY!!!! paid for by city residents through property taxes.

do you understand that now?
 
CanadianKid said:
private enterprise and the "market" doesn't work for alot of things - including education, healthcare, public transportation, police and fire services, government, etc....

CK
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Why doesn't it work for education and health care? Private schools and hospitals are top rated.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Make whatever excuses you have to to explain away your refusal to help your fellow man during his hour of need.

Pretty pathetic display of compassion.

I understand...you got yours, so FUCK that guy and his family.
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How compassionate are you to risk your life, not to save someone else's life, but to save someone else's property?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Make whatever excuses you have to to explain away your refusal to help your fellow man during his hour of need.

Pretty pathetic display of compassion.

I understand...you got yours, so FUCK that guy and his family.
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Again, just abuse for fire fighters based in ignorance. That guy and his family were not at risk, only stuff was. There is no excuse to expect others to risk their lives to save stuff that you deemed unimportant enough that you didn't feel you needed to cover it. I'm willing to bet that this guy's insurance will pay, but will require that any future coverage of his stuff will be covered only if he pays the fees to be within the fire district. Either that or he didn't care enough about the stuff to even get insurance coverage.
 
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