Disturbing trend of Trump voters rejecting Covid vaccines

Hello Big Money Dolla,

Big Money Dolla said:
1. incorrect. did he or did he not do all those things regarding masks that I posted?
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He did not.

Big Money Dolla said:
2. I reached my personal decision based on the plethora of peer reviewed scientific studies not by what some guy told me as you seem to have with yours.
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I am not a scientist. I believe I am being wise by listening to the most respected scientist in the USA.

Big Money Dolla said:
3. That is a gross and unfair characterization and one that could only be uttered by one choosing to be ignorant..
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Trying to make this about me is not going to work.

Big Money Dolla said:
4. I know several medical professionals who would say this, including the esteemed medical professional in the first article I posted as well as my wife who is a nurse practitioner, my personal physician as well, etc. I bet if you asked your doctor he would agree with me. see they tell you this crap not because its right, it's because they think you are stupid.
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Another attempt to make it personal.

Big Money Dolla said:
5. I don't mind, I have approached this from both a scientific and academic standpoint. I provided links to numerous peer reviewed studies and you have responded dismissing all of them without any counter other than "st fauci said". so the problem isnt I as an example but your lack of scientific and academic contribution.
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Incorrect.
 
I think this is right-wing bluster. Trump was anti-vaccine into it actually came to him and he got one in secret. I saw Maggot hats in line when I got my shot. Rightys do talk. The smart ones will get them. Unfortunately, they have a large population of dumb ones to deal with.
 
Hello Nordberg,

Nordberg said:
I think this is right-wing bluster. Trump was anti-vaccine into it actually came to him and he got one in secret. I saw Maggot hats in line when I got my shot. Rightys do talk. The smart ones will get them. Unfortunately, they have a large population of dumb ones to deal with.
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Take away BS and hatred and the Republican party would be toast.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Nordberg,

Take away BS and hatred and the Republican party would be toast.
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The Republican party is toast precisely because of the BS and hatred. They've become a party of wackadoodles.

That said, I'm against using Federal authority to force people to do anything. The Feds are free to use whatever means they legally have available to persuade Americans to do the right thing.

State and cities have more authority on certain issues.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Big Money Dolla,



He did not.



I am not a scientist. I believe I am being wise by listening to the most respected scientist in the USA.



Trying to make this about me is not going to work.



Another attempt to make it personal.



Incorrect.
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1. He most assuredly did:
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7

2. that is clear, you choose to listen to ONE scientist instead of digesting information from multiple scientists and scientific sources, you take the word of a single scientist who has lied and contradicted himself several times.

3. I didn't make it about you, I responded to YOUR comment.

4. you are being dismissive now, I accept your concession.

5. Great rebuttal I am glad you included counter evidence and a sound reasoning for your one word reply.



I think we are done here, you have provided no evidence or information for your position, I have inundated you with scientific studies, articles and journals none of which you were able to refute. so I bid you good day sir, thanks for the discussion.
 
Big Money Dolla said:
"death cult" refers the comments that some have made calling libertarians cultist, "Qanon" types and a
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That's nice. So because someone else calls you guys that, means that *I* did?

I've been talking politics on the Innerwebz for approx. 25 years now. In that time I've encountered numerous self-styled Libertarians. They tend to be exactly as I stated and you quoted: Convinced that they are right and everyone else is wrong. They alone know what "true freedom" is. The rest of us are unenlightened morons who must be educated in order to see the same light they do. To a few, that "education" can involve extermination, although in general (L)s do not tend to promote violence.

Tell me how that is not cult-like? Can you spot much difference between that thinking and that of a compound of religious extremists, for example?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
That's nice. So because someone else calls you guys that, means that *I* did?

I've been talking politics on the Innerwebz for approx. 25 years now. In that time I've encountered numerous self-styled Libertarians. They tend to be exactly as I stated and you quoted: Convinced that they are right and everyone else is wrong. They alone know what "true freedom" is. The rest of us are unenlightened morons who must be educated in order to see the same light they do. To a few, that "education" can involve extermination, although in general (L)s do not tend to promote violence.

Tell me how that is not cult-like? Can you spot much difference between that thinking and that of a compound of religious extremists, for example?
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I am simply opining on you suggesting we are cult like based on the the quote of yours I provided. Do you think your perception could have to do with the tribe you sided with? that the other tribes are this or that? To me watching both the democrats and the republicans lately, "Cult like" devotion to party over all is far greater than what I have seen with most libertarians. Then again, usually the party in power, generates a democrat or a republican suddenly claiming libertarianism. but I digress. are you suggesting you or your opposition don't think they too are right? this position of yours doesn't make much sense.


No libertarian promotes violence, this would violate the NAP.
 
Hello Big Money Dolla,

Big Money Dolla said:
1. He most assuredly did:
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7

2. that is clear, you choose to listen to ONE scientist instead of digesting information from multiple scientists and scientific sources, you take the word of a single scientist who has lied and contradicted himself several times.

3. I didn't make it about you, I responded to YOUR comment.

4. you are being dismissive now, I accept your concession.

5. Great rebuttal I am glad you included counter evidence and a sound reasoning for your one word reply.



I think we are done here, you have provided no evidence or information for your position, I have inundated you with scientific studies, articles and journals none of which you were able to refute. so I bid you good day sir, thanks for the discussion.
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We both knew going into that one what the end result would be.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Big Money Dolla,



We both knew going into that one what the end result would be.
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I don't know what you are talking about. like I said, I see no point in continuing this discussion. I have provided a plethora of backup evidence from reputable scientific sources, you provided faith in a beurocrat scientist who has lied to us.
 
jakemax said:
Then why do I have to wear a mask? If you have one on then you're protected! Now spew some more circular bullshit.
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Fucking genius, if you fail to wear a mask, you are likely to infect the other fools like you who also refuse proper heath directives.
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
The Republican party is toast precisely because of the BS and hatred. They've become a party of wackadoodles.

That said, I'm against using Federal authority to force people to do anything. The Feds are free to use whatever means they legally have available to persuade Americans to do the right thing.

State and cities have more authority on certain issues.
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Not surprised you would feel that way. And of course I do think it is appropriate for the federal government to have authority in matters of national security and safety.

I bet Biden would agree that a national mask mandate would save lives. I figure the only reason he hasn't done that is because he doesn't want to do anything which would result in great dissent. So some will die for the freedom of others because of such stubbornness. We just have too many people who simply cannot be a team player for the USA.
 
Hello Big Money Dolla,

Big Money Dolla said:
I don't know what you are talking about. like I said, I see no point in continuing this discussion. I have provided a plethora of backup evidence from reputable scientific sources, you provided faith in a beurocrat scientist who has lied to us.
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Discussing what?

I'm on to the disturbing trend of people who don't want to get the vaccine. It's a generalized discussion. Not about any one particular individual.

I contend that people who do not wish to be a team player for the USA actually hurt the country with their stubbornness.

Fewer would die if they were more loyal and patriotic.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Not surprised you would feel that way. And of course I do think it is appropriate for the federal government to have authority in matters of national security and safety.

I bet Biden would agree that a national mask mandate would save lives. I figure the only reason he hasn't done that is because he doesn't want to do anything which would result in great dissent. So some will die for the freedom of others because of such stubbornness. We just have too many people who simply cannot be a team player for the USA.
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Banning guns, private vehicles and swimming pools would save tens of thousands of lives...but then one has to ask the question "Why live?"
 
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