DoJ to Allow Marijuana Legalization!

Aoxomoxoa said:
Not when it causes schizophrenia and other mental problems.
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Well...people need to know their limits. If all it takes is a gentle toke to put you where you want to be....then don't smoke a whole joint and send yourself into the land of paranoid delusions.

More bang for your buck isn't a bad thing. One just has to show a little PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
 
Liberty said:
I'm at a lose on this point. I've never heard anything like this.

But let's say it's true, that it's worth trading all your rights,,,,,,,,,,,,, employ drug cartels, gangs,,,,,,,,, violence that comes with it all. I could go on, and on.
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It causes none of that.

Reefer Madness
 
tekkychick said:
That's what prohibition over here led to; pot is a lot stronger now than it was in the 60s/70s. Good or bad, depending on your perspective; I happen to think bad, personally.
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why do you think it is bad that it is stronger? Just curious. The stuff I have is potent. One hit, maybe two and that is all you need.
 
Jarod said:
Anyone here willing to claim that had Mitt Romney been elected this would have happened?
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What has happened other than Holder saying AGAIN that states should control it?

Maybe you should ask that question after something real happens .. we've been down this road before of Obama/Holder saying they will back off marijuana and allow the states to decide .. only to see a double-cross and a more aggressive enforcement than George Bush.
 
Superfreak said:
why do you think it is bad that it is stronger? Just curious. The stuff I have is potent. One hit, maybe two and that is all you need.
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Candy... Are you happy about Eric Holders announcement? Do you believe Mitt would have done the same?
 
blackascoal said:
What has happened other than Holder saying AGAIN that states should control it?

Maybe you should ask that question after something real happens .. we've been down this road before of Obama/Holder saying they will back off marijuana and allow the states to decide .. only to see a double-cross and a more aggressive enforcement than George Bush.
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When did they announce a policy? When did they set something formal with the States? When did they even say that the states should control it?
 
My mind was made up about marijuana when my brother got cancer. For pain he was offered strong doses of Morphine and oxycotin. Marijuana worked better than either one to minimize his pain. Further, he had nausea. Marijuana still gave him the "munchies." So... who here would say that marijuana is more dangerous or addictive than Morphine or Oxycotin? Who here would deny that it is better to give someone something that will help him to eat when he otherwise can eat nothing or next to nothing?

Argue about recreational uses of marijuana all you want (over a beer or cocktail, of course) but for the sake of all that is good and decent, don't limit the pain management choices of a dying cancer patient.
 
You must pardon me if I don't join in the euphoria about Obama/Holder and what they've done with marijuana.

Michigan Medical Marijuana Patients & Caregivers Surrender to Feds
MAY 28, 2013

DETROIT, MI — Several Michigan medical marijuana patients and caregivers are expected to surrender to federal authorities this week to serve out lengthy prison terms, after being convicted in federal court without any opportunity to defend themselves on medical necessity or state law grounds.

Some defendants went to trial while others pleaded guilty when they saw no opportunity to defend their actions under state law.

Among those expected to surrender this week is 53-year-old Michigan medical marijuana patient Jerry Duval, a kidney-pancreas transplant patient with coronary artery disease and a strict medication regimen.

Duval was sentenced earlier this year to 10 years in prison and will be surrendering to FMC Devens in Ayer, Massachusetts on June 11th. Duval will file a Compassionate Release Request this week, urging the the Bureau of Prisons to consider his extraordinary and compelling circumstances.

Three other Michigan cultivators, Dennis Forsberg, 59, his son Lance Forsberg, 32, and Ryan Basore, 36, who were sentenced to 3-4 years in prison will be self-surrendering to FCI Morgantown in West Virginia on May 30th.

“Jerry Duval and his 10-year sentence is emblematic of how the Obama Administration has been undermining state medical marijuana laws, while persecuting patients who are in no way violating state law,” said Steph Sherer, Executive Director with Americans for Safe Access. “President Obama and Attorney General Holder must start owning up to the unnecessary torment they’re forcing not only cultivators, but thousands of patients, to endure.”

To counter this aggressive stance by the Obama Administration, ASA and its members are mounting a campaign called “Peace for Patients” (#Peace4Patients). The Peace for Patients campaign is an effort to educate elected officials about the millions of federal dollars being spent on attacking law-abiding patients and their providers in medical marijuana states.

The grassroots campaign is also urging members of Congress to vote this summer for an appropriations amendment that would re-prioritize Justice Department resources away from the kind of aggressive enforcement that has been occurring in medical marijuana states.

Jerry Duval was convicted at trial in April 2012 of manufacturing with intent to distribute marijuana, conspiracy to manufacture marijuana, and maintaining a drug premises. Because of U.S. Supreme Court rulings, federal defendants like Duval are prevented from showing relevant evidence to the jury.

Unsatisfied with Duval’s conviction and 10-year sentence, the Obama Justice Department is trying to forfeit his home and farm land worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Duval’s imminent surrender comes less than year after Montana medical marijuana patient Richard Flor died in federal custody last August while serving a 5-year sentence for a similar conviction.
http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013...ijuana-patients-caregivers-surrender-to-feds/
 
blackascoal said:
You must pardon me if I don't join in the euphoria about Obama/Holder and what they've done with marijuana.

Michigan Medical Marijuana Patients & Caregivers Surrender to Feds
MAY 28, 2013

DETROIT, MI — Several Michigan medical marijuana patients and caregivers are expected to surrender to federal authorities this week to serve out lengthy prison terms, after being convicted in federal court without any opportunity to defend themselves on medical necessity or state law grounds.

Some defendants went to trial while others pleaded guilty when they saw no opportunity to defend their actions under state law.

Among those expected to surrender this week is 53-year-old Michigan medical marijuana patient Jerry Duval, a kidney-pancreas transplant patient with coronary artery disease and a strict medication regimen.

Duval was sentenced earlier this year to 10 years in prison and will be surrendering to FMC Devens in Ayer, Massachusetts on June 11th. Duval will file a Compassionate Release Request this week, urging the the Bureau of Prisons to consider his extraordinary and compelling circumstances.

Three other Michigan cultivators, Dennis Forsberg, 59, his son Lance Forsberg, 32, and Ryan Basore, 36, who were sentenced to 3-4 years in prison will be self-surrendering to FCI Morgantown in West Virginia on May 30th.

“Jerry Duval and his 10-year sentence is emblematic of how the Obama Administration has been undermining state medical marijuana laws, while persecuting patients who are in no way violating state law,” said Steph Sherer, Executive Director with Americans for Safe Access. “President Obama and Attorney General Holder must start owning up to the unnecessary torment they’re forcing not only cultivators, but thousands of patients, to endure.”

To counter this aggressive stance by the Obama Administration, ASA and its members are mounting a campaign called “Peace for Patients” (#Peace4Patients). The Peace for Patients campaign is an effort to educate elected officials about the millions of federal dollars being spent on attacking law-abiding patients and their providers in medical marijuana states.

The grassroots campaign is also urging members of Congress to vote this summer for an appropriations amendment that would re-prioritize Justice Department resources away from the kind of aggressive enforcement that has been occurring in medical marijuana states.

Jerry Duval was convicted at trial in April 2012 of manufacturing with intent to distribute marijuana, conspiracy to manufacture marijuana, and maintaining a drug premises. Because of U.S. Supreme Court rulings, federal defendants like Duval are prevented from showing relevant evidence to the jury.

Unsatisfied with Duval’s conviction and 10-year sentence, the Obama Justice Department is trying to forfeit his home and farm land worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Duval’s imminent surrender comes less than year after Montana medical marijuana patient Richard Flor died in federal custody last August while serving a 5-year sentence for a similar conviction.
http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013...ijuana-patients-caregivers-surrender-to-feds/
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I don't like this, but it does not mean the that new position of the Justice Dept is not a step in the right direction.
 
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Jarod said:
I don't like this, but it does not mean the that new position of the Justice Dept is not a step in the right direction.
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You asked when had they done this before ..

Medical Marijuana Advocates Cautious About “New” Policy on Federal Marijuana Enforcement
August 29. 2013

Advocates: Department of Justice should drop all medical marijuana cases and vow to stop obstructing policy makers

WASHINGTON, DC — The U.S. Justice Department issued a press release earlier today, announcing a memorandum from Deputy Attorney General James M. Cole that detailed a similar policy on recently adopted laws in the States of Washington and Colorado as it previously indicated for medical marijuana states. To the extent this new memorandum affects medical marijuana patients in Washington, Colorado and other states, advocates are taking a “wait and see” approach.

The Obama Justice Department indicates that as long as states that have passed marijuana laws “implement strong and effective regulatory and enforcement systems,” the department will continue to rely on state and local authorities to “address marijuana activity through enforcement of their own narcotics laws” and will limit its efforts to “certain enforcement priorities that are particularly important to the federal government.”

However, this memorandum comes after the Obama Justice Department obstructed the implementation of strict regulatory laws in medical marijuana states such as Montana, Vermont, and Washington. Despite memoranda in 2009 and 2011 from Deputy Attorneys General David Ogden and James Cole, respectively, citing similar assurances of a hands-off approach to marijuana enforcement in medical marijuana states, the Justice Department has spent more than $300 million to aggressively undermine the implementation of those laws.

“While we’re hopeful that the Justice Department will adhere to these policies, our experience with the Obama Administration so far has been lots of double-talk,” said Steph Sherer, Executive Director of Americans for Safe Access, which recently issued a report detailing the economic and social costs of federal enforcement. “In order to gain the trust of Americans, Obama’s U.S. Attorneys must stop their aggressive and unnecessary enforcement campaigns in medical marijuana states.

None of the eight “enforcement priorities” outlined in today’s memo have any bearing on how the Obama Justice Department has carried out its attacks in medical marijuana states, perhaps with the exception of “Preventing the distribution of marijuana to minors” if one construes prevention to mean limiting the distance of dispensaries to schools and parks further than state law requires. Threats of criminal prosecution and asset forfeiture by U.S. Attorneys have closed more than 600 dispensaries in California, Colorado and Washington over the past two years, based on their proximity to schools and other so-called “sensitive uses,” even though no state law had been violated.

Interestingly, today’s memo states that “in exercising prosecutorial discretion, prosecutors should not consider the size or commercial nature of a marijuana operation alone as a proxy for assessing whether marijuana trafficking implicates the Department’s enforcement priorities.” However, one of the Justice Department’s most high-profile and current prosecutions is a lawsuit filed by California U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag against Harborside Health Center, the state’s largest dispensary. The lawsuit has prompted the City of Oakland to counter sue the Obama Administration.
http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013...ous-new-policy-federal-marijuana-enforcement/

Simply put, Obama cannot be trusted.
 
Here you go .. the smoking gun ..

Obama Administration to Stop Raids on Medical Marijuana Dispensers
MARCH 18, 2009

WASHINGTON — Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Wednesday outlined a shift in the enforcement of federal drug laws, saying the administration would effectively end the Bush administration’s frequent raids on distributors of medical marijuana.

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Mr. Holder said the new approach was consistent with statements made by President Obama in the campaign and was based on an assessment of how to allocate scarce enforcement resources. He said dispensaries operating in accord with California law would not be a priority for the administration.

more
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/us/19holder.html?_r=0

Now read Post #54 and find out what he did to Harborside in California.

Simply put, Obama is a liar and cannot be trusted.
 
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