Downtown Los Angeles

[christiefan915]

To each his own of course but even if caning works I don’t want to see that implemented here. Fvxk the government having that much control over our actions.

But as much as liberals complained about the “broken windows” policy in NYC it helped turned the City from one of the dirtiest and crime infested into the one of the cleanest and safest.

San Francisco is one of the dirtiest cities in the country, and (some) people complain about it but there’s zero political will to deal with it so it not only continues it gets worse.

But I would never want caning to deal with it.

Is it that SF doesn't want to spend taxpayer money on the problem?

As of 2018 NYC was ranked the dirtiest city in the country.

"New York City, according to the report’s infographic, has a dirtiness index of 427.9, leading all 40 cities in the report. New York City topped the charts in the litter and pest factor category, the report said.

The next closest is Los Angeles, which has a dirtiness index of 317.8. The third dirtiest metro is also in California -- Riverside/Bernardino."

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...ted-States-America-Study-Trash-474670993.html

 

[Legion]

Miami under a repug mayor. And below is a link to an article showing repug compassion for the homeless.

Homeless should be shipped to sanctuary cities.

BTW, Miami is DEMOCRAT-dominated.

Miami-Dade County has voted for the DEMOCRAT candidate in most of the presidential elections in the past four decades, and has gone DEMOCRAT in every election since 1992.

In 2008 and 2012 approximately 59.69% of the electorate voted for DEMOCRAT Barack Obama. In 2016, DEMOCRAT Hillary Clinton won 63.22% of the vote.

Registered voters as of 8/1/2018:

DEMOCRAT -601,261, 41.93%
Republican - 377,550, 26.33%

Miami-Dade County has operated under a unique metropolitan system of government, a "two-tier federation", since 1957.

There are 34 municipalities in the county, the City of Miami being the largest.

Cities are the "lower tier" of local government, providing police and fire protection, zoning and code enforcement, and other typical city services within their jurisdiction. These services are paid for by city taxes. The County is the "upper tier", and it provides services of a metropolitan nature, such as emergency management, airport and seaport operations, public housing and health care services, transportation, environmental services, solid waste disposal etc. These are funded by county taxes, which are assessed on all incorporated and unincorporated areas.

The mayor is not a member of the County Commission.

Carlos A. Giménez (born January 17, 1954) is a Cuban American (naturalized in January 1975) retired firefighter and Mayor of Miami-Dade County, Florida, elected to office June 28, 2011 in a special election.He previously served as a Miami-Dade County Commissioner from 2003 through 2011, and the Fire Chief of the City of Miami Fire Department. He is a member of the Republican Party, but his position of mayor of Miami-Dade County is a nonpartisan one


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County,_Florida

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_A._Giménez

 

[Legion]

As of 2018 NYC was ranked the dirtiest city in the country. "New York City, according to the report’s infographic, has a dirtiness index of 427.9, leading all 40 cities in the report. New York City topped the charts in the litter and pest factor category, the report said. The next closest is Los Angeles, which has a dirtiness index of 317.8. The third dirtiest metro is also in California -- Riverside/Bernardino." https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...ted-States-America-Study-Trash-474670993.html

San Franshitsco, Lost Angels, and Green New Deal City are all DEMOCRAT-dominated, aren't they?

 

[Legion]

And Miami's, according to some.

So your whatboutism is moot.

 

[Legion]

Ever see the permanent damage of a Singapore caning?

Is that something you'd like to receive?

A few years ago ,I meet someone who introduced me to BDSM. My first encounter, I thought it would be about how much pain, one could stand. But I soon learned the secret to BDSM. It's not about pain! But that fine line between pain, and a type of ecstasy I had never experienced! Sure there was pain, humiliation, submission, all of which I gladly with stood. To reach that ecstasy! For a year, I couldn't wait to heal from when encounter, so I could have another. During the beating one side of your brain wanted the beating to stop. The other side wanted it never to stop! It also taught one to trust your dominate completely to give you pain, but not to hurt you.

 

[Legion]

The vast majority are not homeless by choice. They're indigent, mentally-ill or both..

Who told you that?

 

[Sailor]

Singapore's human rights record sucks.

Singapore is one of the nicest cities you could ever go to. Clean, cosmopolitan, safe. Let me tell you about that "human rights record". There is no crime to speak of. Folks over there know the law and they also know it is followed. I can come out of the shipyard there at 3:00 in the morning and see women factory workers leaving their night jobs and walking down alley's alone with zero fear. They know there is a minuscule chance at best of someone going to mug them, rape them or harm them in anyway. Of course that is just one example of thousands. That cannot be said for any city in America. Perhaps they need more "human rights violations" to keep their citizens safe.

 

[cawacko]

Is it that SF doesn't want to spend taxpayer money on the problem?

As of 2018 NYC was ranked the dirtiest city in the country.

"New York City, according to the report’s infographic, has a dirtiness index of 427.9, leading all 40 cities in the report. New York City topped the charts in the litter and pest factor category, the report said.

The next closest is Los Angeles, which has a dirtiness index of 317.8. The third dirtiest metro is also in California -- Riverside/Bernardino."

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loc...ted-States-America-Study-Trash-474670993.html

With all due respect you clearly don’t live or follow what happens here if you’re asking if we spend money on the homeless. We spend tens of millions annually on the homeless. Our issue isn’t spending money, it’s how we spend and the results we get.

I get it politically. To those on the right SF, LA and other big democratic run cities are easy punching bags for some of the problems. And from a liberal perspective you will be more defensive about them.

But living here all I want is results, I don’t care the political designation of the person who delivers them. And we have been spending tremendous amounts of money without results. And yes, the answer we hear quite a bit is “we need to spend even more money”.

Like I said the political will isn’t here. Just as I know not all republicans think alike I know not all democrats think alike. And in SF some democrats draw a stricter line than others on the acceptability level of how dirty we allow our streets to get and the open drug use and crapping on the streets etc. People complain verbally but not enough at the ballot box to elect people who will take a different approach to address the problem.

 

[christiefan915]

With all due respect you clearly don’t live or follow what happens here if you’re asking if we spend money on the homeless. We spend tens of millions annually on the homeless. Our issue isn’t spending money, it’s how we spend and the results we get.

I get it politically. To those on the right SF, LA and other big democratic run cities are easy punching bags for some of the problems. And from a liberal perspective you will be more defensive about them.

But living here all I want is results, I don’t care the political designation of the person who delivers them. And we have been spending tremendous amounts of money without results. And yes, the answer we hear quite a bit is “we need to spend even more money”.

Like I said the political will isn’t here. Just as I know not all republicans think alike I know not all democrats think alike. And in SF some democrats draw a stricter line than others on the acceptability level of how dirty we allow our streets to get and the open drug use and crapping on the streets etc. People complain verbally but not enough at the ballot box to elect people who will take a different approach to address the problem.

You're right, I live 2500 miles away and follow what happens on the East Coast more closely than the West. If you spend tens of millions and still have the problem, I guess the solution isn't that simple. Nor does it matter who's in office.

Do you have any ideas? The first thing I can think of is to start funding mental institutions again, to corral some of those homeless. Deliver better service to vets with PTSD and other related physical and mental problems they developed while serving the country. Set up more homeless shelters.

I suppose addiction plays a part in this but I don't know how to curb that.