Election deniers have done more damage to America than anyone else: Public thread

[Into the Night]

fuck you

What?? You want to try to delete your own OP?

 

[Into the Night]

fuck you

No thanks. You're going to have to try to find someone else to fuck.

 

[Into the Night]

It won't be long before all things start coming out in the Wash!

Cliche fallacy.

Jack Smith knew all he had to do was invite everyone to the party and let them talk.

He already lost his case. Just waiting around for the judge to throw it out now.

And talk they all did, and now Donald Trump's lies will now all be exposed for what they are.

Inversion fallacy.

Donald Trump is the root cause for all of the evil, chaos, divisions, Conspiracy Theories, corruption in the FBI, Secret Service, Supreme Court, Congress, and the numerous Constitutional Crisis's and Democracy Crisis's in this nation. And this is what will come out in the wash.

No, you can't blame Trump for what Democrats did, and there is no democracy. The United States was never a democracy. The Oligarchy is not a democracy.

One man that is every bit as evil as the devil himself.

Great bit of fundamentalism from you.

Stay tuned! You'll hear it all from his closest partners in crime!

What crime?

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The Left can't meme.

Inversion fallacies and cliches don't work, ya dumb lizard.

 

[Into the Night]

Alternately, democrats could stop engaging in election fraud.

But you'll NEVER do that.

The Democrats keep denying election fraud ever took place, even though the evidence of their fraud is still there and has even been shown to them.
Evidence like:

* Changes in election law ex-post-facto and by unauthorized personnel.
* After hours counting with NO OBSERVERS PRESENT.
* All votes in after hours counting WITH NO OBSERVERS PRESENT are for Biden (mathematically impossible).
* Demonstrated weakness in voting machine software including in it's handling of security.
* Elections conducted by people running in that election.
* Attempted certification of votes by unauthorized personnel, in some cases before votes were cast!
* Attempt to choose the electors for a State by unauthorized personnel.
* Affidavits on file from both Democrat and Republican election workers testifying of fraud taking place.
* At least seven States that never chose any electors at all.

The elections of 2020 and 2022 faulted due to election fraud by Democrats. Joe Biden was never elected. He was installed as part of a Democrat coup.

 

[Into the Night]

Those do not make people lose confidence. When you register to vote the first time, you show ID and your voting status is checked. Do you become a different person later in life?
Ballot harvesting means nothing. If people around you ask you to drop off your ballot, how does that change the vote? The votes are all assigned to specific people an specific precincts.
Automatic voting registration does not make you vote. If you choose not to, it does not matter. Encouraging more people to vote make the choices better represent the people. It takes power from the few.
A long election session has been a characteristic of America for generations. Of course, it makes money for TV networks, radio and advertising companies.
Ballot drop boxes mean nothing. The ballots dropped off have to go to the precinct on the ballot. There it is checked and tallied if it qualifies.
The reason rolls are not purged regularly is that doing so costs the election commission lots of man-hours. It threatens nothing.
You are upset by things that simply do not matter. You cano\t resist a conspiracy, can you?

Here Nordbutt is trying to justify illegal activity as part of the 'normal' election process.

 

[Into the Night]

So members of Congress denying the election isn’t a problem for you. BTW after she conceded Hillary went around the country saying Trump stole the election and was not a legitimate President

A good point. Hillary did indeed concede and then withdraw her concession.

 

[Into the Night]

Hillary conceded the next day. She honored the system. trump has not done so. He has greatly harmed the system.

And Nordbutt tries to defend Hillary.
Hillary did NOT concede. She didn't honor anything.
Trump has conceded. He is trying to run a re-election campaign.

Norbutt 'honors the system' by discarding the Constitution of the United States and supporting The Oligarchy and the installation of Biden, a man that was never elected.

 

[Into the Night]

It's actually kind of funny to try to compare Hillary's few comments - AFTER SHE CONCEDED THE ELECTION - w/ the daily onslaught of election denial from Trump and his minions.

I'm really not sure if you're kidding.

This is what happens, Drunk, when Democrats cause elections to fault. Both the 2020 and 2022 elections faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

This is about self harm. Sowing distrust in your own free elections is suicide by poison to a democratic system. Trump made the first ingestion of that poison in August, 2020 in a speech when he said Biden could only win by fraud, setting the stage
for The Stolen Election two and a half months later. That Biden was leading in most all the polls then and on election day has been simply glossed over as much of the country fell for Trump's lie and continues to fall for it. You strike me as someone who
knows little of American history over "the last 100 years" or any other period but if you have worse "damage" to offer, let's see it.

Trump was right. Biden could only 'win' by fraud. The fraud did indeed take place, installing Biden as 'president'.
It is no lie. Election fraud by Democrats took place. It caused the 2020 election to fault. It also caused the 2022 election to fault when it happened AGAIN.
Democrats want to deny this evidence, but they can't make it go away, or peoples judgement of it go away.

 

[Into the Night]

I have absolutely no interest in trying to provide examples of worse damage to someone who has absolutely no intention of changing their mind

you can believe whatever you need to in order to make yourself feel better about knowingly being deceived by democrats..........I don't really care. I have more important things to do than bang my head against a wall.

I can understand your frustration, dude.

It is important to remember, however, that though you cannot convince a Democrat of anything, you CAN convince others monitoring this thread.

 

[Into the Night]

Do you realize people on this very site don't think Trump won in 2016? Hillary did TREMENDOUS harm letting Trump be investigated for a fake document that SHE HAD MADE. There is ZERO evidence that Trump didn't win in 2016.

That she did. Much further harm was done by Democrats as they committed massive election fraud sufficient to cause the 2020 and 2022 elections to fault. Much of it under the guise of their covid hoax as well.

And they STILL try to deny the evidence of their fraud.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump actually said there was "massive fraud" in 2016 - because his vanity couldn't handle losing the popular vote.

He also called the 2012 election a "sham."

Good reference.

...and the Drunk chimes in again with his usual chants...

There WAS election fraud by Democrats in the 2012 and 2016 elections. It was insufficient to fault the election however. In 2020 and 2022 it was.
The President is not elected by popular vote.

 

[Into the Night]

Hillary actually said Trump was an illegitimate President. Now if there wasn't election fraud how would Trump be an illegitimate President.

A valid question. Watch the Democrats try to deflect away from this one!

 

[Into the Night]

You could do all that and 10 times more and if you have a Trump like leader in the GOP, he will scream rigged over and over until trust is lowered.

No. Because the election is rigged.

Lets not play games with the issue

You ARE playing games with the issue. A VERY dangerous game!

as Trump was saying he would call fraud and rigged long before the election took place.
Long before many other elections took place.

Because election fraud by Democrats DID take place.

And if he won, the confidence of the voters was there, because he then did not yell rigged,and when he lost he yelled rigged and the confidence left.

Trump has never lost an election.

So jumping to actions that DO NOT improve elections is meaningless as none of it would stop Trump or those like him yelling rigged next time.

It IS rigged.

If your goal is to build election confidence then calling out the liars, shaming them and discrediting them is the only way to get there.

Democrats are the one that committed election fraud dope. More and more people are seeing it. That's why confidence is waning.

 

[Into the Night]

She wrote it? Are you nuts? The dossier was not fake. It seems it was not 100 percent accurate. But it was just background information that was gathered.

She wrote it. It's fake. She was caught at it.

 

[Into the Night]

No one "wants to change their mind". The idea is to be open to learning and not only open to it but seeking it. This does not describe people who've sealed their minds, as the Right does in what it wrongly sees as self preservation in denying the legitimacy of Biden's election and the illegitimacy of Trump's continued presence on the national stage.

And now the Martian wants to deny his own posts again.

 

[Into the Night]

But, Marty, Trump is a free man. His presence is as valid as yours, more so.

Trump, Trump, Trump!

Poor Marty.

The Martian can't seem to get his head wrapped around this!

 

[Into the Night]

this is where you've sealed YOUR mind.......you have to believe that all right wingers, at least on this board, are steadfast in their beliefs that the election was stolen......that's not the case, though. I guess it makes you feel better about your closed mindedness, since the more vocal lefties on here can't open their minds about it either..........

Oooo. Nice shot!

 

[Into the Night]

The reference was to the many on the Right who have and are in charge of the narrative, not those who haven't. Which you are, I haven't any idea. The point is about learning and that is a scarce commodity everywhere.

The Martian actually thinks he is learning!

 

[Nordberg]

Exactly correct.

Trump has delayed everything over and over. he is responsible for the timing. You are as usual, exactly wrong.