Eric Trump claims his father has done more for Christianity than anyone

LurchAddams said:
Yes, MAGA-ism is a "victim" culture. When people start saying "happy holidays" they'll go immidiately to "defcon 10" and scream that "Christianity is Under Attack".

Such babies.
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More dumb lies. I don't think you can post without looking like a repugnant caricature of ignorance and stupidity. :palm:
 
AssHatZombie said:
https://cufi.org › resource › the-truth-about-christian-persecution-in-the-middle-east
The Truth About Christian Persecution in the Middle East
In fact, the rise of persecution of Christians in the Middle East is unprecedented. Thousands of men, women and children are being slaughtered for their faith in Jesus. Hundreds of churches have been burned to the ground. Christian communities that date back to the time of Christ have been decimated.
https://www.huffpost.com › entry › the-persecution-of-christ_b_13652002
The Persecution Of Christians In The Middle East - HuffPost
Although Christians have lived in the Middle East - the birthplace of Christianity - for nearly two thousand years, as a result of years of persecution and discrimination, especially in the past 15 years, they now constitute no more than 3-4% of the region's population, down from 20% a century ago.
https://study.com › academy › lesson › christian-persecution-in-the-middle-east.html
Christian Persecution in the Middle East | Study.com
After establishing control in the Middle East, Muslim leaders declared that Christians were dhimmi. Dhimmi translates to a protected person. In their subservient class they were required to pay a...
https://www.theguardian.com › world › 2019 › may › 02 › persecution-driving-christians-out-of-middle-east-report
Persecution of Christians 'coming close to genocide' in Middle East ...
May 2, 2019In the Middle East and north Africa, the report says, "forms of persecution ranging from routine discrimination in education, employment and social life up to genocidal attacks against Christian...
https://icjurist.org › the-persecution-and-genocide-of-christians-in-the-middle-east
The Persecution and Genocide of Christians in the Middle East
Nine of the top ten offending countries with the highest rates of Christian persecution are found either in the Middle East or in neighboring countries. With the rise of ISIS, persecution reached a particularly intense moment, though under the Trump administration their territory has shrunk dramatically.
https://www.churchinneed.org › christian-persecution-never-ended-in-middle-east
'Christian persecution never ended in Middle East - Church in Need
Support the Suffering Church. AN ARCHBISHOP AND SISTER FROM THE MIDDLE EAST ISSUED A STARK warning to UK Parliamentarians that Christians in the region are still suffering persecution. At a July 5th event organized yesterday by Aid to the Church in Need (ACN) for the 2022 International Ministerial Conference on Freedom of Religion and Belief ...
https://www.churchinneed.org › persecution-middle-east
Persecution in the Middle East - Aid to the Church in Need
Keeping Christianity Alive in the Middle East The work of ACNUSA on behalf of Christians in the Middle East is essential in ensuring that Christianity will survive in two countries, Iraq and Syria, where the faithful have been victims of harsh persecution by ISIS and other jihadist groups.
https://www.catholicity.com › mccloskey › christian-persecutions.html
Christian Persecutions in the Middle East: A 21st Century Tragedy
As anyone who is paying attention today knows, Christians in the Middle East are undergoing widespread persecution - and even martyrdom. Our Western media don't much report on it, and our political leaders don't much notice, however, because it might require them actually to do something.
https://cufi.org › wp-content › uploads › 2020 › 06 › The-Persecution-of-Christians-in-the-Middle-East.pdf
The Persecution of Christians in the Middle East
The Persecution of Christians in the Middle East The Middle East has long been called the "cradle of Chrisanity." The apostles began to be Jesus's witnesses in Jerusalem before moving out further and further in the ancient world with the message of salva6on in Jesus Christ.
https://www.youtube.com › watch?v=KeV49apNRQQ
FOI018: Christian Persecution in the Middle East - YouTube
In this week's episode of Focus On Israel, we'll learn of the real cost one woman paid in standing up for her Christian faith in the Middle East. Julie Aftab...


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I take it you are not agnostic.
 
AssHatZombie said:
even atheists can acknowledge religious persecution.
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So...you are an atheist?

Do you feel as strongly about Muslims being persecuted?
Like in the Yemeni Civil War?
Where tens of thousands of innocent children have already starved to death.
Thanks largely to the Saudi Arabian bombing campaign.
Which is backed by both America and Great Britain?

https://www.unicefusa.org/stories/yemens-children-are-edge-starvation/35067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian–led_intervention_in_Yemen

Or is it only Christians you care so much about?


Now me?
I couldn't give a shit about religion.
I just don't want ANY innocent people to suffer.
I am just funny that way.
 
McRocket said:
So...you are an atheist?

Do you feel as strongly about Muslims being persecuted
Like in the Yemeni Civil War?
Where tens of thousands of innocent children have already starved to death.
Thanks largely to the Saudi Arabian bombing campaign.
Which is backed by both America and Great Britain?

https://www.unicefusa.org/stories/yemens-children-are-edge-starvation/35067
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian–led_intervention_in_Yemen

Or is only Christians you care so much about?
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Im against all persecution, even white on white.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no you silly little cunt.......Trump didn't use the military to seize a church.......
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You can try to rewrite history all you want, but he did use the DC National Guard, and federal law enforcement to seize Saint John's Episcopal Church on Lafayette Square. The military threatened both protesters and clergy to seize control of the church, all so trump could hold up a Bible and have a have a photo op.

I cannot imagine any Democratic President doing the same. Using the military to threaten Christian clergy, and seize a Christian church is not very Christian of trump.
 
Gondwanaland said:
??? Trump was bad enough as he was, there's no need to make shit up.
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It is a fact of history. Here is a picture of him in front of the church he used the military to seize:

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Walt said:
It is a fact of history. Here is a picture of him in front of the church he used the military to seize:

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Dude, that's an exaggeration. He walked across the street, took a photo in front of the church and left. He's a big enough traitorous douchebag that no one needs to exaggerate his abuse of office, treason and dereliction of duty.

FWIW: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...h-wasn-t-why-lafayette-square-was-ncna1270502
Trump photo op at church wasn't why Lafayette Square was cleared. Where are the mea culpas?
Democrats can't be for truth only when they're calling out Trump’s lies. Not admitting error amid new evidence debases the truth they claim to revere.
There is only one problem with this narrative, which received wall-to-wall coverage on outrage-addled cable news shows and was pasted on the front pages of newspapers across the country: An independent investigation by the inspector general of the Interior Department has concluded it wasn’t true.

Inspector General Mark Lee Greenblatt wrote that “the evidence did not support a finding that the [United States Park Police] cleared the park on June 1, 2020, so that then President Trump could enter the park.” The protesters were instead removed “to allow a contractor to safely install anti-scale fencing in response to destruction of Federal property and injury to officers that occured on May 30 and May 31” during other Black Lives Matter protests.

In fact, Greenblatt found, the relevant decisions were made and plans put in place “several hours before [officials] knew of a potential Presidential visit to the park, which occurred later that day.”
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Walt said:
It is a fact of history. Here is a picture of him in front of the church he used the military to seize:

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That's not a fact of history. He didn't seize any church, nor was any military used to do anything involving said church, you dipfuck. He walked over from the White House, did a photo op, and walked back.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Dude, that's an exaggeration. He walked across the street, took a photo in front of the church and left. He's a big enough traitorous douchebag that no one needs to exaggerate his abuse of office, treason and dereliction of duty.

FWIW: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...h-wasn-t-why-lafayette-square-was-ncna1270502
Trump photo op at church wasn't why Lafayette Square was cleared. Where are the mea culpas?
Democrats can't be for truth only when they're calling out Trump’s lies. Not admitting error amid new evidence debases the truth they claim to revere.
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You are changing the subject from the clergy to the protesters. The clergy would not have needed to be cleared from the church, because the church is not public property. The only reason to clear the clergy is to take control of the church, not the park.
 
Gondwanaland said:
He didn't seize any church, nor was any military used to do anything involving said church, you dipfuck. He walked over from the White House, did a photo op, and walked back.
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trump walked to an abandoned church... But why was it abandoned? Because the military threatened the clergy. Clearly the military did seize control of the church. They did not seize legal ownership, but for a few hours the clergy of the church was not allowed to go to their work place, and home. Members of the church were not allowed to go to their place of worship. It was all so trump could have a photo op.
 
Walt said:
You are changing the subject from the clergy to the protesters. The clergy would not have needed to be cleared from the church, because the church is not public property. The only reason to clear the clergy is to take control of the church, not the park.
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Who got cleared out of the church? Did Trump go in the church that day?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Who got cleared out of the church? Did Trump go in the church that day?
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trump did not enter the church building, but for trump to stand on church property, outside the church, the Secret Service needed to control the church. The church clergy refused to leave the premise to give them control, so the military was brought in to remove the clergy.

Using the military to threaten clergy and seizing control of a church... No word on why trump could not cross the thresholds of a church building, but the possibility he would burst into flames should not be discounted.
 
Walt said:
trump did not enter the church building, but for trump to stand on church property, outside the church, the Secret Service needed to control the church. The church clergy refused to leave the premise to give them control, so the military was brought in to remove the clergy.

Using the military to threaten clergy and seizing control of a church... No word on why trump could not cross the thresholds of a church building, but the possibility he would burst into flames should not be discounted.
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Why didn't NPR report this? No mention of military or clergy:

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/1004...-clear-protesters-to-make-way-for-trump-last-
Watchdog Report Says Police Did Not Clear Protesters To Make Way For Trump Photo-Op
 
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