Evangelicals: You Need to Stop Believing In Stupid Things

TOP said:
"I found that I knew not only that there was God but that I was a child of God, when I understood that, when I comprehended that, more than that, when I internalized that, ingested that, I became courageous."

"I dared to do anything that was a good thing. I dared to do things as distant from what seemed to be in my future.

"If God loves me, if God made everything from leaves to seals and oak trees, then what is it I can't do?"
God bless you, Maya Angelou....RIP
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this is why materalist totalitarians hate true spirituality, it's ultimately a source of strength for their intended victims.
 
Jack said:
I think it is more of a knee-jerk response to a question. Their Parents went to a Methodist Church and they attended Bible Study a few times. So when asked, they automatically say 'Methodist' to the question.
If asked if they believe in a Man-God, they say 'No'. If asked if Jesus really walked on water, they smile and say 'No'. It's a typical response to a frivolous question.
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As I've related before, I used to work as a cook in a county jail with a fairly large population (300+ at any given time) of inmates representative of that jail's outside community. IOW, most of the inmates were white and almost every one put down "Christian" as his/her religion on the intake forms. We knew this because we would get a daily print-out of that day's inmate population, which included their age/race/religion/unit/status within the jail (i.e., inmate, weekender, inmate-worker, etc.) I got into a spat with my boss one time because she always honored the Muslims' request to be given non-pork meals, but she refused to honor the 2-3 Buddhists' requests for a vegan diet. She claimed that Buddhism wasn't a "real" religion. Yet she had us prepare vegan meals for the lone Seventh-Day Adventist inmate that once graced the place.

At any rate, I think the inmates were doing just what you stated: Putting down a religious preference just because Xtian was what they grew up with. As you might imagine, a lot of them "found Jesus" while in jail. lol

I think Xtians like RB, Stretch, PMP, etc. are strident, fearful, and angry because they know that they are a dying breed. So desperate that they embrace the most god-less venal POS POTUS we've ever been cursed with.
 
So many unanswered questions.

If there is a God, who created God?

(and the usual answer is God always existed, and has no creator)

But there is no proof that time itself always existed.

But, let us say for just a moment that God always existed. He existed for all time going back to infinity, before he created the Earth and the Heavens (in 6 days).

Just the creation thing is a bit absurd when you think about it. Before there was an Earth, there were no 'days.'

None the less, let us ponder for a moment this God entity always existing for all infinity backwards in time before creating Earth and humanity.

All alone. With nothingness all around. For all time going back. Wow. That musta been lonely.

What was he doing for all that time?

And what. Did he just get bored? Why, after all infinity before the creation, would this entity suddenly decide the thing to do was to create Earth and humanity? And then give it a ticking time clock? Oh, it's only going to last so long and then the bottom drops out. That sounds ridiculous.

What was the point of it all?

Like I said, there are just too many unanswered questions.

Believers have tried to answer my questions but never to any logical satisfaction.

Just a small part of why I am an atheist.

Now, I don't mean to put down religion.

You are free to believe in anything you like. It's all on faith. I have no way to disprove what you believe in any more than you can disprove what I do not believe in.

And hey. I have my own faith. What is faith anyway? It is the belief in something which cannot be proven.

I have faith that in the long run humans will get it right and endure. I have faith that most humans are basically good and wish others well. We humans care for one another and for all of humanity. That's my faith. I can't prove it, but I believe it anyway. Out of my faith comes my logic that we should treat one another with respect. Nobody told me this stuff. I realize it's the kind of thing you have to figure out for yourself. And I feel much better about that than listening to somebody else tell me how to think.
 
TOP said:
"I found that I knew not only that there was God but that I was a child of God, when I understood that, when I comprehended that, more than that, when I internalized that, ingested that, I became courageous."

"I dared to do anything that was a good thing. I dared to do things as distant from what seemed to be in my future.

"If God loves me, if God made everything from leaves to seals and oak trees, then what is it I can't do?"
God bless you, Maya Angelou....RIP
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Sorry, but quoting scripture and black authors does not make you a Christian nor does it excuse your racism. Maybe if you try acting more Xtian and less racist, we'll believe you?
 
Jack said:
That could be fun. As long as they have a 'Safe Word', I might be up for it. :laugh:
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None of that will involve the whores and porn stars and it definitely won't be fun.

Make jokes all you want. Rest assured, you will be begging for mercy. Sad part is it will be too late to receive any.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Sorry, but quoting scripture and black authors does not make you a Christian nor does it excuse your racism. Maybe if you try acting more Xtian and less racist, we'll believe you?
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So you think you're the one that matters when it comes to believing another person?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Jack,



Trumpism totally = a cult.

It's all predicated on the regular doses of propaganda from The One.

Without their misleader they would be directionless.
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Very true. It will be hard for them once he's gone. Maybe Steve Bannon or Alex Jones will pick up the fallen flag of the disgraced pumpkin.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
As I've related before, I used to work as a cook in a county jail with a fairly large population (300+ at any given time) of inmates representative of that jail's outside community. IOW, most of the inmates were white and almost every one put down "Christian" as his/her religion on the intake forms. We knew this because we would get a daily print-out of that day's inmate population, which included their age/race/religion/unit/status within the jail (i.e., inmate, weekender, inmate-worker, etc.) I got into a spat with my boss one time because she always honored the Muslims' request to be given non-pork meals, but she refused to honor the 2-3 Buddhists' requests for a vegan diet. She claimed that Buddhism wasn't a "real" religion. Yet she had us prepare vegan meals for the lone Seventh-Day Adventist inmate that once graced the place.

At any rate, I think the inmates were doing just what you stated: Putting down a religious preference just because Xtian was what they grew up with. As you might imagine, a lot of them "found Jesus" while in jail. lol

I think Xtians like RB, Stretch, PMP, etc. are strident, fearful, and angry because they know that they are a dying breed. So desperate that they embrace the most god-less venal POS POTUS we've ever been cursed with.
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Interesting story.
To be honest, I think it is genetic. Some people are just predisposed to Cultism. If RB were in the Middle East, he would be a fanatic supporter of Islam. (just my opinion)
 
PoliTalker said:
So many unanswered questions.

If there is a God, who created God?

(and the usual answer is God always existed, and has no creator)

But there is no proof that time itself always existed.

But, let us say for just a moment that God always existed. He existed for all time going back to infinity, before he created the Earth and the Heavens (in 6 days).

Just the creation thing is a bit absurd when you think about it. Before there was an Earth, there were no 'days.'

None the less, let us ponder for a moment this God entity always existing for all infinity backwards in time before creating Earth and humanity.

All alone. With nothingness all around. For all time going back. Wow. That musta been lonely.

What was he doing for all that time?

And what. Did he just get bored? Why, after all infinity before the creation, would this entity suddenly decide the thing to do was to create Earth and humanity? And then give it a ticking time clock? Oh, it's only going to last so long and then the bottom drops out. That sounds ridiculous.

What was the point of it all?

Like I said, there are just too many unanswered questions.

Believers have tried to answer my questions but never to any logical satisfaction.

Just a small part of why I am an atheist.

Now, I don't mean to put down religion.

You are free to believe in anything you like. It's all on faith. I have no way to disprove what you believe in any more than you can disprove what I do not believe in.

And hey. I have my own faith. What is faith anyway? It is the belief in something which cannot be proven.

I have faith that in the long run humans will get it right and endure. I have faith that most humans are basically good and wish others well. We humans care for one another and for all of humanity. That's my faith. I can't prove it, but I believe it anyway. Out of my faith comes my logic that we should treat one another with respect. Nobody told me this stuff. I realize it's the kind of thing you have to figure out for yourself. And I feel much better about that than listening to somebody else tell me how to think.
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It's kind of hard to be respectful of your beliefs when you're so disrespectful of what others choose to believe here. Yet, we are....
In the above post you say everyone is free to believe what they like...yet the majority of your posts say otherwise....Hmmm...am i missing something?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello StoneByStone,



I disagree.

The ones that pertain to how to treat God are meaningful only to those who are believers, but they are the minority. More of them pertain to how to treat other people, and all of those make a sensible guide for interaction in society.

Most of the Ten are actually very smart.
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Name the Ten Commandments that make for a sensible guide for interaction.
And adults shouldn't have imaginary friends.
 
StoneByStone said:
Name the Ten Commandments that make for a sensible guide for interaction.
And adults shouldn't have imaginary friends.
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It's wrong for you to covet the things the rest of us earned by believing the government should take from us so it can give to you.
 
Jack said:
Interesting story.
To be honest, I think it is genetic. Some people are just predisposed to Cultism. If RB were in the Middle East, he would be a fanatic supporter of Islam. (just my opinion)
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You think I'd be a jihadist?

Nah. I wouldn't shoot anyone unless they were a threat to myself, my family or my property. Same thing as here in the US.
 
StoneByStone said:
Name the Ten Commandments that make for a sensible guide for interaction.
And adults shouldn't have imaginary friends.
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even for atheists, these.....
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy (you need a rest now and then)
Honor thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not murder
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
Thou shalt not covet

and I would certainly expect you to like the one about not worshipping graven images......

atheists shouldn't have imaginary morals......
 
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