God, virgin birth, resurrection, creation, ark...Aren't these equally hard to believe from an objective viewpoint? They are just more orthodox than cults or magic.
Evangelicals: You Need to Stop Believing In Stupid Things
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God, virgin birth, resurrection, creation, ark...Aren't these equally hard to believe from an objective viewpoint? They are just more orthodox than cults or magic.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello TOP,
Don't put words in my mouth.
I find that highly disrespectful.
I did not say what you just claimed about me, because it is not true the derogatory way you worded it.
My Signature PIP outlines the reasons people get placed on my Ignore List. And I think you are already well aware of my standards for mutual respect. I have made no secret of them but instead made them quite public so everybody understands. It is quite apparent for all here to see that I regularly talk to and enjoy the respect of many people with whom I disagree. It's all about the respect. Disagreement is to be expected. How that disagreement is handled is everything to me. I would advise you not to test me on this. Do not put words in my mouth again. I write my own posts, not you. The best advice would be to stick to the topic of discussion and don't EVER start talking about me, because I am not the subject, and you have a tendency to get too personal. That is not respectful.
Hopefully that totally clarifies how accepting I am.
If not, I know a way that should make it very easy to deal with.
Don't put words in my mouth.
I find that highly disrespectful.
I did not say what you just claimed about me, because it is not true the derogatory way you worded it.
My Signature PIP outlines the reasons people get placed on my Ignore List. And I think you are already well aware of my standards for mutual respect. I have made no secret of them but instead made them quite public so everybody understands. It is quite apparent for all here to see that I regularly talk to and enjoy the respect of many people with whom I disagree. It's all about the respect. Disagreement is to be expected. How that disagreement is handled is everything to me. I would advise you not to test me on this. Do not put words in my mouth again. I write my own posts, not you. The best advice would be to stick to the topic of discussion and don't EVER start talking about me, because I am not the subject, and you have a tendency to get too personal. That is not respectful.
Hopefully that totally clarifies how accepting I am.
If not, I know a way that should make it very easy to deal with.
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
Then one replies to the offenders not all Christians.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Jack,
I'm just sayin there are a lot of people in this country who are very interested in angels, fairies, witches, magic, and spells. Tarot cards, tea leaves, fortune tellers, horoscopes, etc. Any consideration of the motivations of Americans would be lacking if it did not consider this phenomenon.
I'm just sayin there are a lot of people in this country who are very interested in angels, fairies, witches, magic, and spells. Tarot cards, tea leaves, fortune tellers, horoscopes, etc. Any consideration of the motivations of Americans would be lacking if it did not consider this phenomenon.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
What about bad parents? Should people with abusive parents honor them?
No murdering, in most cases, sure. But what about the death penalty or war? What about self-defense?
Is lying ever ok? What about lying to save someone's life?
What's wrong with coveting? That's the whole basis of a free market.
No murdering or stealing are generally good rules for a society, but even those have exceptions.
They often force their beliefs on their kids. Is that ok? Even if they don't outright force religion, they're still setting a bad example.
Virgin birth. Yes. Hard to believe.
Resurrection. Pretty sure once you're dead for a few days ... you won't be coming back.
Creation. From dirt?
Ark. Two of every animal.
God. Exactly WHERE is God?
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I agree in general. Those who admire a rigidly-structured society, the status quo, authoritarianism, and "strong men" tend to be conservatives, and often religious as well. In the 1770s in America they would have been staunch supporters of the Crown. They have convinced themselves that they believe in freedom, yet freedom is the opposite of what they really want... particularly for ppl not like themselves. If a group of intelligent, educated, accomplished men appeared and began agitating to change things around, they would be horrified at the thought. So let's hope Washington, Henry, Jefferson, Franklin, et al do not get resurrected.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Yes, of course you are. Did he put you down for your beliefs, or me, or someone else? Sorry, but explaining why you don't believe what Toxic or CFM or Pastor Schmuckleberger or Iman Ahmed believes does not make you "disrespectful." I do recall you, on the other hand, mocking what I believe as well as mocking the non-Xtian beliefs of others both here and on Amazon. Trying to label someone else as a bigot doesn't change the fact that YOU are one. You can wish all you want for everyone else to be like you, but thankfully that will never happen. Praise Krom! lol
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Don't murder, don't lie about other people, don't screw around with someone else's spouse, don't steal someone else's stuff, and keep your eyes off their spouse/stuff.
Nothing wrong with those, eh? And no imaginary sky buddies required, just common sense and ethics.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
I don't see anything wrong with coveting. Acting on what you're coveting is alright depending on the context.
As for the other rules, let's say they're good rules in most situations. That's still only four.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
We definitely have that going on presently, don't we?
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I'm not scared at all. Most ppl approaching death are not, except for one thing. The only thing about death that concerns most of us is the process of getting that way. I don't want my last hours/days/weeks spent in intractable pain. Most of us, believers or not, feel that way. If someone thinks that they are going to heaven after they die and that gives them comfort, that's a wonderful thing. BTW, I am a hospice volunteer so have had opportunity to discuss the end of life with ppl from a lot of different backgrounds.
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
How many threads have you started degrading Christians? None that I know of so you weren't one of the people I was referring to.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
That's a good point. I don't see much difference in believing in werewolves and vampires and fairies and angels than believing any other mythical stories. As humans we have always had stories about gods of one sort or the other. They just change aspects/names over time. Just because currently some are followed instead of the old ones doesn't make them more valid.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
nah.....what's hard to believe is that atheists are rational.......
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I've never started a thread like that, thanks for noticing. I'm merely pointing out that when it comes to death, those of us who are non-Xtian don't fear it the way many Xtians think we should. Fear of what happens after death doesn't seem to me to be a very good reason to adhere to a particular religious belief.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
#whataboutism......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
you are not part of a correctly ordered society........
Its not fear of what happens after death its fear of God in this life that is important. And of course, the ultimate Judge is God, so we should work our our salvation with fear and trembling.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Knock yourself out. I'm thankful to not have to live this one and only life in that manner.