Evolution controversy erupts

I already answered. You have some sort of condition you want to add to your incredibly stupid question, but youre too stupid to articulate it. It sucks to be you, huh?

lol.....given that you've already admitted you knew what I "couldn't" articulate, I guess its pretty obvious I'm not the one who's stupid.......but if you choose to continue dodging the question I can understand, since it proves your argument is false.....
 
lets explore this strange belief of yours in light of simple animal husbandry, since you seem fixed on believing it actually IS evolution.....

if you were intent on developing some desirable trait into some creature, would you sit back and wait for it to happen by itself?......and once it did, would you let the animal that displayed the trait breed within the general population at random?......
 
so when you said this you meant entire populations of all creatures except bears.......

Single species of bears can evolve into forms different form archaic forms. Again, idiot, there is not one and only one species of bears.

What I said was...

Again, if you understand that changes within a GROUP brings about a new species then there is absolutely no reason for you to have trouble understanding how the entire population might become a new species distinct from the archaic forms. Can you explain what your issue is or why you disagree?

And it was clear the group was the SINGLE homo species.

Homo sapiens have evolved and we are quite different than the archaic forms.

http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/archaic-homo-sapiens-103852137
 
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it was obvious that's what you meant.....that's why its obvious you were wrong.....no where else in the world is there evidence of an entire population evolving into a single species....that's why your claim falls short.........

See #243. You have not responded.

We have plenty of evidence of evolutionary changes from archaic forms. Again, modern homo sapiens have changed dramatically from archaic homo sapiens. You are wrong, stupid and nothing more than a depraved liar.
 
Here it is once again....

Homo sapiens have evolved and we are quite different than the archaic forms.

lol, I believe that is called circular reasoning......in giving an example to prove your claim that all humans could have evolved from homo erectus you give the example of all human beings evolving from homo erectus?.......

yes, I know you have that silly belief......now, again, can you give us an actual example of your "multi-regional" evolution?......and give a real one this time, you simple minded fuck......
 
lol, I believe that is called circular reasoning......in giving an example to prove your claim that all humans could have evolved from homo erectus you give the example of all human beings evolving from homo erectus?.......

yes, I know you have that silly belief......now, again, can you give us an actual example of your "multi-regional" evolution?......and give a real one this time, you simple minded fuck......

It is really amazing how stupid and ill equipped for this discussion you are.

The previous discussion was about the possibility of the population of homo erectus evolving into homo sapiens in multiple regions. This is about the evolution of homo sapiens from archaic forms of homo sapiens to modern forms of homo sapiens. It's a perfect example as it shows that it is well understood and not controversial that human populations have evolved from archaic forms. We don't know that multiregional populations of homo erectus did.

I have also given you several examples of other species.

Your incredibly stupid question was answered. I am not going to argue this any further since I don't even really subscribe to the multiregional hypothesis. I am just trying to explain it to you and why it is possible.
 
I have given you several examples of species that have evolved in multiple regions.

You have not given the first answer to any of my questions, coward. There are no examples of a species where the entire population did not evolve. You still have not given a clear answer to how you believe speciation occurs.
 
I have given you several examples of species that have evolved in multiple regions.

You have not given the first answer to any of my questions, coward. There are no examples of a species where the entire population did not evolve. You still have not given a clear answer to how you believe speciation occurs.

neither claim is true....first of all I told you that speciation occurs when a variation within the species is isolated from the general population. You have made several comments that demonstrates you are not only aware of what I have said, but agree. You claim this is multi-regional. There is no where on earth where this is demonstrated. Pandas did not evolve both in China and Sweden. Water buffalo did not evolve in both Southeast Asia and Argentina. Kangaroos did not evolve in both Australia and Arizona. Grizzly bears did not evolve in both North America and Africa. Yet you believe human beings evolved on every continent simultaneously. You ridicule the thought that all bears would have evolved into polar bears but you take it for granted that all humans would have evolved into homo sapiens.

as for you "already giving several examples" all you've ever claimed were domesticated animals.....you've already admitted you knew this didn't answer my question......you've only dodged it by saying that since I haven't asked the question in the way you like you aren't going to give it a direct answer.........its obvious to everyone you know the answer will prove you wrong and that's why you won't answer.......the answer to my question is that there aren't any other examples.....

the burning question is this.....since we all know it has never happened anywhere else with any other species, why do you persist in believing that human beings evolved in multiple locations simultaneously?.......
 
neither claim is true....first of all I told you that speciation occurs when a variation within the species is isolated from the general population. You have made several comments that demonstrates you are not only aware of what I have said, but agree. You claim this is multi-regional. There is no where on earth where this is demonstrated. Pandas did not evolve both in China and Sweden. Water buffalo did not evolve in both Southeast Asia and Argentina. Kangaroos did not evolve in both Australia and Arizona. Grizzly bears did not evolve in both North America and Africa. Yet you believe human beings evolved on every continent simultaneously. You ridicule the thought that all bears would have evolved into polar bears but you take it for granted that all humans would have evolved into homo sapiens.

as for you "already giving several examples" all you've ever claimed were domesticated animals.....you've already admitted you knew this didn't answer my question......you've only dodged it by saying that since I haven't asked the question in the way you like you aren't going to give it a direct answer.........its obvious to everyone you know the answer will prove you wrong and that's why you won't answer.......the answer to my question is that there aren't any other examples.....

the burning question is this.....since we all know it has never happened anywhere else with any other species, why do you persist in believing that human beings evolved in multiple locations simultaneously?.......

Wow, so many errors/lies.

Your explanation of speciation above is woefully brief and lacking in detail. It is meant to be to evade the direct question I asked you about whether speciation occurs to an individual or among a group. Answer the question I asked.

I did not claim "it" (whatever it is) was multi regional. I said that it is possible for a species to evolve in ways making it distinct from archaic forms in multiple regions or across the entire population of the species. Of course, it is. Homo sapiens are not the same as early homo sapiens and evolution has occurred across the entire population of the species and continues to do so. That is a different statement than the claim that all of homo erectus evolved into homo sapiens due to sharing of beneficial genetic variations across the entire population. The first is well known and not at all controversial. The second is speculated and possible but not the dominant theory.

Panda's are very limited in range due to their specific dietary needs. Humans are not. Neither are cats, dogs, horses, or the various other examples I have given you.

You are a liar, I admitted to no such thing about knowing that I had not answered your question. You asked your stupid question and I answered. You then moved the goalposts because you did not like the domesticated animals, though it fit the criteria of your original question. I asked you to restate your question then and you then asked something to the effect of "give an example of a species that has evolved in multiple regions that is not a hybrid." I told you you needed to rephrase and you refused to due to your arrogant ignorance. So I answered the same way and excluded mules which I had not included in my first example. I was aware at that point that your ignorance had caused you to improperly use hybrid when you, apparently, meant domesticated animals.

Anytime you would like to you can restate your question. I can give you examples that are not domesticated animals. For instance, the brown or common rat. I guarantee you are going to stomp, fuss and move the goalposts again.

I have answered and proved you wrong. It has happened in EVERY species and continues to happen. Even pandas continue to evolve and are different from their older forms. That in no way implies that divergent species will merge or that divergent evolution can not occur.
 
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It is meant to be to evade the direct question I asked you about whether speciation occurs to an individual or among a group. Answer the question I asked.
no dodge whatsoever.....it is scientifically unavoidable that it begins with an individual....whether that individual change is ultimately passed on to a larger group depends on whether the larger group is sufficiently isolated that the trait is carried on rather than being diluted out of existence among the larger population....

I did not claim "it" (whatever it is) was multi regional.
you said that homo sapiens evolved in multiple locations around the world......you cannot deny that.....


You are a liar, I admitted to no such thing about knowing that I had not answered your question. You asked your stupid question and I answered.
lol.....you even told me how to change it.....my response was, since you already know what I'm asking, just answer it.......you're still dodging it.....

For instance, the brown or common rat.
did rodents evolve into that species in multiple locations simultaneously or were they transported around the world in the bilges of ships?.....

can you come up with an example that MUST be simultaneous multi-regional evolution?.....
 
Even pandas continue to evolve and are different from their older forms.

of course they are....the problem for your argument is that there are other creatures which evolved from those older forms which are not pandas.......if homo sapiens are the grizzlies, where are our polar bears.....where are our black bears and brown bears?......
 
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