Evolution Is In Trouble - Detailed - Why So Many Scientist Are Saying So

[Truck Fump / h1b]

I'm a liberal, and I believe in objective morality and absolute right and wrong. I have routinely challenged moral subjectivists to defend their position. I do not think anyone can live out moral relativism to it's logical conclusion.

We seem to be uniquely endowed with access to a moral conscience, not seen in other animals. There in nothing rational or logical about a Marine intentionally throwing himself on a grenade or a German industrialist risking his life to save thousands of Jewish strangers. There's nothing in a DNA molecule that requires that kind of moral action. Those moral actions defy rationality, self-preservation, and the laws of Darwinian evolution.

its seen in some degree to other animals, we do it MORE.

morality and our ability to cooperate with each other is our true strenght, and yes it depends on intelligence to role play as other parties in society in order to derive win win scenarios and enhance trust and further cooperation.

we are animals too, on the same continuums.

you just like to keep morality tethered to organized religions so you can warp it for warhawk purposes.

 

[Cypress]

its seen in some degree to other animals, we do it MORE.

Thanks for echoing, corroborating, and confirming my post that humans are unique in having access to a moral conscience that can result in us taking a wider range and scope of actions, even if they are outside the natural boundaries of Darwinian evolution and self-preservation.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Thanks for echoing, corroborating, and confirming my post that humans are unique in having access to a moral conscience that can result in us taking a wider range and scope of actions, even if they are outside the natural boundaries of Darwinian evolution and self-preservation.

we're further allong a continuum.

it's not like an on off switch, that only happend because of moses. <--religionist dunce-cappery.

enhanced cooperation can be seen increasing, expecially in to mammals and into primates.

 

[Cypress]

we're further allong a continuum.

it's not like an on off switch, that only happend because of moses. <--religionist dunce-cappery.

enhanced cooperation can be seen increasing, expecially in to mammals and into primates.

You literally said that in 3.5 billion years of evolution and out of tens of millions of species, humans are uniquely capable of more, a wider range, a deeper scope of actions; aka humanity is unique.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

You literally said that in 3.5 billion years of evolution and out of tens of millions of species, humans are uniquely capable of more, a wider range, a deeper scope of actions; aka humanity is unique.

that;s not what I said.

that's what religionists say.

I said we've developed these cooperative capacities MORE THAN other animals.

it's still a visible continuum to increasing cooperation.

 

[Into the Night]

Most of those who claimed to have refuted Thomas of Aquina's Five Ways have to re-define terms he used, i.e. just rewriting his words and meanings and refuting their own strawmen. Ideologues of all stripes have to do so as well.

All formal logic is circular reasoning, it's a function of definitions.

Logic is not definitions.

That's useful in narrow areas, like math and empirical methodologies,

Logic is not mathematics, but like mathematics, is a closed functional system.

but it fails badly in most others, like social and political controls and acceptable behaviors, none of which is 'logical' in any formal sense.

Thomas of Aquina did not create mathematics or logic. He was trying to prove God. That is a circular argument fallacy, an error in logic.