Excellent op-ed on O'Donnell/Coons debate

And MSNBC ain't?


Far as I know, MSNBC ain't pimping non-existent poll claiming that a candidate that has practically no shot at winning is within striking distance while hitting up the rubes for some cash.

It's a fucking racket, man. O'Donnell, like Palin, is a fucking grifter and the fact that she's raised almost $4 million shows how good she is and how fucking gullible and desperate her marks are.
 
Except "separation of church in state" is not in there; it's a leftist's interpretation that you lib-tards take as gospel.
Yes, you are correct. that is how liberals like Washington, Adams, Madison, Monroe and Marshal interpreted it. LOL.....you anal retentive types seem to have problems with the word derived. Well I know you'd love to make this nation a theocracy but hey, to bad our founding fathers beleived differently then you do.
 
Far as I know, MSNBC ain't pimping non-existent poll claiming that a candidate that has practically no shot at winning is within striking distance while hitting up the rubes for some cash.

It's a fucking racket, man. O'Donnell, like Palin, is a fucking grifter and the fact that she's raised almost $4 million shows how good she is and how fucking gullible and desperate her marks are.
Never, ever make the mistake of donating money to a politician. You'll never, ever get rid of the leaches!
 
Far as I know, MSNBC ain't pimping non-existent poll claiming that a candidate that has practically no shot at winning is within striking distance while hitting up the rubes for some cash...

You mean like this:

MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and Dylan Ratigan, ran with the results of a poll that essentially “proved” that Republicans are extremists, many of whom think Obama is like Hitler and wasn’t born in this country. The poll was mentioned (with no methodology) in a Daily Beast column by John Avlon (“Scary New GOP Poll”), who is pitching a book about the extremism of the right. You’re welcome to seek out the book, but I’ll only mention the subtitle: “How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America.”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...centrist-author-sell-books.html#ixzz13PGlpWRs
 
The only one that's lying is you. Your coming a bit unglued here fatman has it been too long between mouthfulls and now your blood sugar is dropping? :(


Really?

Then tell us who conducted the poll?

You can't even do that one simple thing...but by all means call me fat 8 or 9 more times...it shows everyone just how morally bankrupt you truly are.

You make up bullshit and then when called on it you resort to fat jokes....

:lmao:
 
Yes, you are correct. that is how liberals like Washington, Adams, Madison, Monroe and Marshal interpreted it. LOL.....you anal retentive types seem to have problems with the word derived. Well I know you'd love to make this nation a theocracy but hey, to bad our founding fathers beleived differently then you do.

Oh really? The fact is that it wasn't until 1947 that liberals finally distilled just eight words from Jeffeson's letter to put the issue out of context.

While most recognize the phrase "separation of church and state," few know its source; but it is important to understand the origins of that phrase. What is the history of the First Amendment?

The process of drafting the First Amendment made the intent of the Founders abundantly clear; for before they approved the final wording, the First Amendment went through nearly a dozen different iterations and extensive discussions.

Those discussions—recorded in the Congressional Records from June 7 through September 25 of 1789—make clear their intent for the First Amendment. By it, the Founders were saying: "We do not want in America what we had in Great Britain: we don’t want one denomination running the nation. We will not all be Catholics, or Anglicans, or any other single denomination. We do want God’s principles, but we don’t want one denomination running the nation."

This intent was well understood, as evidenced by court rulings after the First Amendment. For example, a 1799 court declared:

"By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established religion; and all sects and denominations of Christians are placed on the same equal footing."

Again, note the emphasis: "We do want Christian principles—we do want God’s principles—but we don’t want one denomination to run the nation."

In 1801, the Danbury Baptist Association of Danbury, Connecticut, heard a rumor that the Congregationalist denomination was about to be made the national denomination. That rumor distressed the Danbury Baptists, as it should have. Consequently, the fired off a litter to President Thomas Jefferson voicing their concern. On January 1, 1802, Jefferson wrote the Danbury Baptists, assuring them that "the First Amendment has erected a wall of separation between church and state."

His letter explained that they need not fear the establishment of a national denomination—and that while the wall of the First Amendment would protect the church from government control—there always would be open and free religious expression of all orthodox religious practices, for true religious expression of all orthodox religious practices, for true religious duties would never threaten the purpose of government. The government would interfere with a religious activity was a direct menace to the government or to the overall peace and good order of society. (Later Supreme Court identified potential "religious" activities in which the government might interfere: things like human sacrifice, bigamy or polygamy, the advocation of immorality or licentiousness, etc. If any of these activities were to occur in the name of "religion," then the government would interfere, for these were activities which threaten public peace and safety; but with orthodox religious practices, the government would not interfere).

Today, all that is heard of Jefferson’s letter is the phrase, "a wall of separation between church and state," without either the context, or the explanation given in the letter, or its application by earlier courts. The clear understanding of the First Amendment for a century-and-a-half was that it prohibited the establishment of a single national denomination. National policies and rulings in that century-and-a-half always reflected that interpretation.

For example, in 1853, a group petitioned Congress to separate Christian principles from government. They desired a so-called "separation of church and state" with chaplains being turned out of the congress, the military, etc. Their petition was referred to the House and the Senate Judiciary Committees, which investigated for almost a year to see if it would be possible to separate Christian principles from government.

Both the House and the Senate Judiciary Committees returned with their reports. The following are excerpts from the House report delivered on Mary 27, 1854 (the Senate report was very similar):

"Had the people [the Founding Fathers], during the Revolution, had a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle. At the time of the adoption of the Constitution and the amendments, the universal sentiment was that Christianity should be encouraged, but not any one sect [denomination]…. In this age, there is no substitute for Christianity…. That was the religion of the founders of the republic, and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants."

Two months later, the Judiciary Committee made this strong declaration:

"The great, vital, and conservative element in our system [the thing that holds our system together] is the believe of our people in the pure doctrines and divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

The Committees explained that they would not separate these principles, for it was these principles and activities which had made us so successful—they had been our foundation, our basis.

During the 1870s, 1880s, and 1890s, yet another group which challenged specific Christian principles in government arrived before the Supreme Court. Jefferson’s letter had remained unused for years, for as time had progressed after its use in 1802—and after no national denomination had been established—his letter had fallen into obscurity. But now—75 years later—in the case Reynolds v. United States, the plaintiffs resurrected Jefferson’s letter, hope to use it to their advantage.

In that case, the Court printed an lengthy segment of Jefferson’s letter and then used his letter on "separation of church and state" to again prove that it was permissible to maintain Christian values, principles, and practices in official policy. For the next 15 years during that legal controversy, the Supreme Court utilized Jefferson’s letter to ensure that Christian principles remained a part of government.

Following this controversy, Jefferson’s letter again fell into disuse. It then remained silent for the next 70 years until 1947, when, in Everson v. Board of Education, the Court, for the first time, did not cite Jefferson’s entire letter, but selected only eight words from it. The Court now announced:

"The First Amendment has erected ‘a wall of separation between church and state.’ That wall must be kept high and impregnable."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/987191/posts
 
ahhahahaha! It captures everything about him!


Here he is....snacking! Imagine that!!!

But at least he finally sprung for a decent hair cut and beard trim!


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Really?

Then tell us who conducted the poll?

You can't even do that one simple thing...but by all means call me fat 8 or 9 more times...it shows everyone just how morally bankrupt you truly are.

You make up bullshit and then when called on it you resort to fat jokes....

:lmao:

And here we thought you were looking for truth!

The truth is, you ARE fat and it ain't no joking matter. It's in fact DEADLY!
 
Really?

Then tell us who conducted the poll?

You can't even do that one simple thing...but by all means call me fat 8 or 9 more times...it shows everyone just how morally bankrupt you truly are.

You make up bullshit and then when called on it you resort to fat jokes....

:lmao:

The first step is admitting you have a problem. Good boy!

Excellent op-ed on... 10-25-2010 02:22 PM ZappasGuitar Thanked Post
 
LOL Where's Vera?

I don't know if you ever watched the Soprano's but there was this one episode where Christopher, Tony Soprano's nephew, is shooting up heroine and nodding off. He sits down on the couch, blitzed out of his brains, and sits down hard on his fiance's dog and never realizes it until what seems like hours later when she comes home looking for her dog. She see the dog poking out from one side of his butt and starts to scream. The dog is dead and he's been sitting on it for god knows how long

Let's hope Vera hasn't suffered the same fate. She isn't answering his screams either!
 
Really?

Then tell us who conducted the poll?

You can't even do that one simple thing...but by all means call me fat 8 or 9 more times...it shows everyone just how morally bankrupt you truly are.

You make up bullshit and then when called on it you resort to fat jokes....

:lmao:

I'm not calling you fat I am just stating the fat facts about you :D You are a horrifically obese man who rages and whines hysterical.

I never saw a poll dipshit that's why asked if it were true...
 
If she's down 6 points in the polls that normally favor the Democrat she'll likely win. That plus more of the undecideds will vote for the Republican due to the high misery index. *shrug*

Polls don't lean Democrat. The misery index isn't that high because inflation is practically non-existent (which just goes to show what an idiotic measure the misery index is). Actually, according to the misery index, 2009 was a better year than 2008, and 2003 and 2004 were almost as bad as 2009. Utterly retarded.
 
I'm not calling you fat I am just stating the fat facts about you :D You are a horrifically obese man who rages and whines hysterical.

I never saw a poll dipshit that's why asked if it were true...


And FINALLY...after 3 pages of fat jokes, the truth comes out.

ICE DANCER WAS LYING.

Not that that is "breaking news" or anything even close.

But at least this once she has ADMITTED she's lied to us.

(let's leave the kids out of this, we know where that leads.)
 
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