Excuse me, are we going to say the pledge of allegiance?

Dixie said:
Sorry, I haven't defended a Socialist. A Christian Socialist of the late 1800's isn't very much different than George W. Bush in 2000. Kind of like how a Classical Liberal isn't much different than a modern Conservative. But really, what does any of this have to do with the Pledge of Allegiance? Do you think because of Bellamy's personal political view, the Pledge is somehow tainted? Isn't that quite the bigoted and prejudiced position to take? To hold a person's political philosophy against them, even though they did or wrote something admirable and good?

Believe it or not, I have actually quoted Noam Chomsky before, on this very board! ME! About the rightest of right-wing Conservatives... I was able to find merit and wisdom in the words of a pinhead like Chomsky! Now, I realize that is very hard to believe, but search for it and you will find it. I can't recall the quote, I think it was during one of the many debates on Gay Marriage, but indeed, Dixie quoted Noam Chomsky!

You see, some of us are able to set aside our prejudice and bigoted viewpoints, to recognize merit and accomplishment. We don't just automatically discount or dismiss things, based on what political viewpoint someone might have, unless we are bigoted and prejudiced assholes who can't see past a person's political persuasions.
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You do it everyday on here! This proves you never read your own drivel!
 
Just as an aside, here is the first official oath under the constitution.

The first oath under the Constitution was approved by Act of Congress 29 September 1789 (Sec. 3, Ch. 25, 1st Congress). It applied to all commissioned officers, noncommissioned officers and privates in the service of the United States. It came in two parts, the first of which read: "I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) that I will support the constitution of the United States." The second part read: "I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) to bear true allegiance to the United States of America, and to serve them honestly and faithfully, against all their enemies or opposers whatsoever, and to observe and obey the orders of the President of the United States of America, and the orders of the officers appointed over me." The next section of that chapter specified that "the said troops shall be governed by the rules and articles of war, which have been established by the United States in Congress assembled, or by such rules and articles of war as may hereafter by law be established."

Notice that even back then they were given the option to affirm and not swear, AND the words so help me god were not included. Those fricken socialists didn't want god to be mentioned in the first oath. Hmmmmm.

http://www.history.army.mil/faq/oaths.htm
 
Socrtease said:
Just as an aside, here is the first official oath under the constitution.

The first oath under the Constitution was approved by Act of Congress 29 September 1789 (Sec. 3, Ch. 25, 1st Congress). It applied to all commissioned officers, noncommissioned officers and privates in the service of the United States. It came in two parts, the first of which read: "I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) that I will support the constitution of the United States." The second part read: "I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) to bear true allegiance to the United States of America, and to serve them honestly and faithfully, against all their enemies or opposers whatsoever, and to observe and obey the orders of the President of the United States of America, and the orders of the officers appointed over me." The next section of that chapter specified that "the said troops shall be governed by the rules and articles of war, which have been established by the United States in Congress assembled, or by such rules and articles of war as may hereafter by law be established."

Notice that even back then they were given the option to affirm and not swear, AND the words so help me god were not included. Those fricken socialists didn't want god to be mentioned in the first oath. Hmmmmm.

http://www.history.army.mil/faq/oaths.htm
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It's okay Sochead, really! Contrary to what Renal and Duhla say, I don't want you to have to say or do anything you don't feel compelled to do! I am actually very happy that Liberals are courageous enough to state their honest opinions on the pledge, the flag, and the nation in general. I wholeheartedly support your right to do so!
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Dixie said:
It's okay Sochead, really! Contrary to what Renal and Duhla say, I don't want you to have to say or do anything you don't feel compelled to do! I am actually very happy that Liberals are courageous enough to state their honest opinions on the pledge, the flag, and the nation in general. I wholeheartedly support your right to do so!
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Oh, look Darla, we are blessed, Dixie says we have the right to say what we think! and look at his cute play on the names, I am surprised he did use his crayons! and in bold! and we are courageous, why is that? Why does it take courage to state that the pledge isn't a show of true Patriotism? Is this another veiled threat to liberals to beware, someone is keeping track of who doesn't say they pledge?
 
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