Executive order on Obamacare

Amadeus said:
And yet that was the conservative compromise to socialized medicine that your party supported until Obama used it.
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Typical prog. My Party? I voted for Clinton in the 90s.

Anyhow, I already posted and debunked your heritage foundation talking point. So, aside from your parroted line, what issue do you have with my answer? Why is the federal government mandating what each policy must contain (the alleged idea of the 90s did not do that) and mandate that each citizen must have that plan even when they no longer need those services? Could you explain why you support a couple, both in their 50s and neither of which can have kids, carrying a policy that has everything from BC to Pediatrics in it?

If you want government to mandate those things you are more than welcome to use the legislation of your state to see if you can get a state initiative passed using the democratic process.
 
Trump Diva said:
Most people do but what's done is done. Are you a Single Payer advocate?
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Yes, I am. I am a single payer and I will "singly" purchase my own insurance and pay for my own healthcare.

If most opposed such government mandates we would not have Obamacare.
 
Amadoofus is a CANADIAN. Canadians still club baby seals. Never let those hosers judge America.



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Huey said:
Typical prog. My Party? I voted for Clinton in the 90s.
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Who did you vote for in 2016? That's all that matters.


Anyhow, I already posted and debunked your heritage foundation talking point.
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Perhaps you missed it, but I countered your debunk and your only response was to give healthcare back to the insurance companies.
 
floridafan said:
Think the worst, the absolute worst. Now just as before the ACA, people will be able to buy cheap health insurance. This in not inexpensive insurance but cheap insurance that won't cover them when they actually have a serious hospitalization.
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OH NO PEOPLE WILL HAVE CHOICES!

LOL
 
Amadeus said:
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Who did you vote for in 2016? That's all that matters.




Perhaps you missed it, but I countered your debunk and your only response was to give healthcare back to the insurance companies.
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Sorry, I have been arguing Single Payer, Universal HC, Obamacare, etc, since the advent of these political forums. Close to twenty years. You debunked nothing. Next, I told you how you can have your government healthcare system. Seems you ignored it. Why is that?
 
Amadeus said:
The fact that Republicans get snookered into voting against their own interest -- habitually -- is a great example of why Trump won the election. Pretty hilarious that for decades (until this very day) the Republican middle class / working poor voted for lower taxes on the rich in some hope that they will urinate prosperity on them like some Russian prostitute. Meanwhile blaming Democrats when this blew up in their face, and voting for more Republican rich-porn. Remember the Tea Party? LOL.
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you don't get to say what other peoples interests are. Some people are legitimate serious about not being takers. Not everyone wants to live on their knees, like you do. Some people actually want to be free, and hold different values than you. Not everyone is looking for a handout or wanting to be a serf.
 
Amadeus said:
It's actually an improvement of the Republican idea, because it deals with pre-existing conditions, lifetime caps and discrimination. Do you oppose these additions?
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anyone with common sense does. Health insurance for those with pre-existing conditions is like getting housing insurance after your home has already burned down. No other type of "insurance" works this way.
 
Trump Diva said:
I agree 100%. Obamacare is a clusterfuck, a colossal mistake. What's the best way to fix it? Destroy the insurance companies so big gubmint takes it ALL over?

This is complex and can't be solved with a temper tantrum.
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you sound pathetic. Your inner taker is surfacing. Nothing needs to be replaced. I am not responsible for your health.
 
Huey said:
Yes, I am. I am a single payer and I will "singly" purchase my own insurance and pay for my own healthcare.

If most opposed such government mandates we would not have Obamacare.
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You won't purchase insurance at all if insurance companies go out of business. You will be under Federal Single Payer, aka "Medicare for All". Yippee. Hopefully you're healthy. :)
 
The Zax said:
you sound pathetic. Your inner taker is surfacing. Nothing needs to be replaced. I am not responsible for your health.
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I don't need Obamacare, I have group coverage. I hate Obamacare but the response to fix it must be measured -- unlike the design.

Your ignorance is showing...
 
Huey said:
Sorry, I have been arguing Single Payer, Universal HC, Obamacare, etc, since the advent of these political forums. Close to twenty years. You debunked nothing. Next, I told you how you can have your government healthcare system. Seems you ignored it. Why is that?
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Did you vote for Trump?
 
Not being able to buy across state lines was the single dumbest regulation of health insurance. It was indefensible, and that portion of the executive order, alone, will have a positive impact on coverage and premiums.
 
Threedee said:
Not being able to buy across state lines was the single dumbest regulation of health insurance. It was indefensible, and that portion of the executive order, alone, will have a positive impact on coverage and premiums.
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True. That part applies to group coverage only but it's still good. Even relaxing the regulations on individual plans so young and healthier people have the option to buy catastrophic coverage without all the bells and whistles.

It's removing the subsidies without any option or direction whatsoever that concerns me.
 
The Zax said:
anyone with common sense does. Health insurance for those with pre-existing conditions is like getting housing insurance after your home has already burned down. No other type of "insurance" works this way.
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By George you're a genius. Say it ain't so! :rofl2:

No shit, Sherlock. But Obama removed the underwriting part many years ago. This was the part of our insurance system which needed reform. Many people had the money to buy insurance but were denied, sometimes for ridiculous reasons. There should be SOME option.

Instead of the catastrophe called Obamacare, they could have formed some type of catastrophic pool for the uninsurable. The entirety of Obamacare was not needed to fix the most crucial pieces. Obamacare was designed with zero thought, however the response to fix it should be more thoughtful. It isn't a simplistic issue.
 
floridafan said:
Think the worst, the absolute worst. Now just as before the ACA, people will be able to buy cheap health insurance. This in not inexpensive insurance but cheap insurance that won't cover them when they actually have a serious hospitalization.
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odd....before Obamacare I had insurance I could afford that covered me for serious hospitalization.......
 
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